BETTER CALL SAUL

[Quintus 5,399]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Better Call Saul 4x02 Breathe

 

Well, that was an AMAZING hour of television, one of the best I've seen in a long time.  The scene with Kim and Hamlin was utterly terrific, one of the best scenes to air on TV in a while.

 

Really? I thought it was a solid "preliminary phase" instalment, with the best still to come. Hardly what I'd consider standout, mind.

[Matt S. 493]

I'm not sure this means anything, other than a little in-joke from the writers; in the season premiere's flash forward, when Gene gets into the cab, he tells the driver to take him to the Cottonwood Mall.  Just out of curiosity, I googled it to see if that was a real mall in Omaha.  Turns out it isn't, but there is a Cottonwood Mall in....wait for it....Albuquerque, New Mexico! 

[Jay 37,314]

1 hour ago, Quintus said:

 

Really? I thought it was a solid "preliminary phase" instalment, with the best still to come. Hardly what I'd consider standout, mind.

 

That one scene in particular kicked the whole episode up a notch.  Who doesn't want a woman like that defending their ass?  She fucking rocked in that scene

[Damien F 1,742]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

That one scene in particular kicked the whole episode up a notch.  Who doesn't want a woman like that defending their ass?  She fucking rocked in that scene

 

I literally watched that scene again the moment it was over. It was great. 

 

When Kim entered the room, I had a feeling something would happen. She just seemed very tense and on-edge. Great acting even before the fireworks started. 

[Jay 37,314]

Yes!

 

I had absolutely no idea what was going on in her mind through the early parts of the episode, and even the early parts of the conversation with Hamlin.  Then when she unloaded on him, it made PERFECT sense in every way possible - but I totally didn't see it coming.  I love that!

I swear these two shows (BB & BCS) are the most unpredictable shows I've watched.

[Jay 37,314]

lol wtf, is this a reference to something I'm not getting?

 

 

[Matt S. 493]

I think the cheap production values and the flashing text are supposed to refer to the Saul Goodman commercials.

[Jay 37,314]

I found out what it meant by accident - I'll put it in spoiler blocks as it ruins what is probably a surprise

 

Spoiler

It's a reference to Gale from Breaking Bad, who had some kind of custom coffee pot in the meth lab in that show.  So I guess he'll be introduced in Gus's storyline tonight...

 

[Matt S. 493]

God damn, Nacho got

Spoiler

fucked up!!

 

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Was Jimmy's figurine "partner in crime" the head guy Ira from the "pest control / theft gang" from Breaking Bad?  Kind of looked like him in the dark.

[Matt S. 493]

I think you're right.  I thought he looked familiar, but I couldn't place him.  Good catch!

[crocodile 7,988]

Just finished episode 3. Excellent three episodes. Probably more low key than expected, but subtle and excellent writing continues to impress.

 

Karol

[Jay 37,314]

Better Call Saul 4x03 Something Beautiful

 

Wonderful juxtaposition of a really dark storyline with Nacho and a really funny storyline with Jimmy.  When the guy from GLOW was on the phone with his wife asking for forgiveness about buying her a vacuum as a present I was cracking up.

 

I loved how much of this episode was unspoken, unshown, and you had to pay attention and catch up, and make some of your own assumptions.  The Gus's gang did to Nacho was brutal, it's amazing how long and bloody the Gus vs Hector war really was.  I loved how the episode started right in the middle of things, with you having no idea what was going on until you figured it out.  What's more interesting is, the whole thing clearly wasn't only because Nacho tried to poison Hector and Gus found out; this is a clearly the start of a longer plan Gus was probably waiting for the right time and/or opportunity to enact.  I love how he's grooming Gale to be ready for local cooking instead of always importing from over the border.  Good stuff as always.

 

The other mystery was Kim.  I had a hard time figuring out just what was going through her head and she checked out the bank's models, as she talked to her paralegal about what work to do.  Does she feel over her head?  Is she not as into the realities of being her own firm instead of working for a large one as she thought she would be?  Interesting stuff.  And then her breakdown at the end when Jimmy read the letter was astonishing.  I hadn't realize we were at the end of the episode, so I was bummed when the credits came up, I wanted the scene to continue!

 

Jimmy deciding to steal a hummel for a lousy 4 grand payoff instead of taking a good gig as a main salesman for these guys is so fascinating to me. I love Jimmy, I loved watching him struggle for 3 seasons to be good, to be a real lawyer, to fight his draw against being a conman.  And he's slipping right back into his old ways, and I don't want him to!  Of course we know by BB is, well, who he is, but I was hoping we'd get more time with good Jimmy!

His continuing to react to Chuck's death the way he is is interesting too.  From the overly cheery whistling after Hamlin told him it was a suicide, to his shrugging off Mike's condolences, to him seeming to have no emotional reaction whatsoever to Chuck's letter.... I don't think this is how Jimmy truly is, I think he's tucking his emotions down deep inside, and it's all going to come to the surface sometime soon.

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

On 8/21/2018 at 2:50 PM, ATXHusker said:

Was Jimmy's figurine "partner in crime" the head guy Ira from the "pest control / theft gang" from Breaking Bad?  Kind of looked like him in the dark.

 

Just watched the Easter Eggs bit and it was Ira!    Link below to the Easter eggs portion

 

https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/season-4/episode-03-something-beautiful

 

 

Also, the mentioned the pizza that the copier guy orders is the same company as the pizza that Walter W throws up on the roof of his house lol. 

 

They also started an "Employee Training" feature on AMC's site with Mike, like what they did last year with Gus.  There's also Easter eggs in these as well, such as the yellow Hummer H2 driving by and the lollipops / treats that the character in BB gives to the bank receptionist so he can put the drug money in the deposit box.  Last year's with Gus was hilarious and the first installment with Mike has some good laughs too.    

 

https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul-employee-training

 

 

[Jay 37,314]

Better Call Saul 4x04 Talk

 

Kim - Fascinating!  So, her behavior in the room with all the bank models is now explained; She seems to be unsure about being a bank lawyer as a career, and is interested in more classic public defender work, seemingly (or, perhaps, as the Judge inferred, hoping a case would rekindle a spark in her about lawyering in general).  I wonder how much of this is also explained by factors we don't know yet, on top of perhaps watching what Jimmy is going through and how his change in behavior is affecting their relationship.

 

Mike - Holy shit Jonathan Banks' acting was awesome as he reacted to Stephanie talk about Matty! His blowup afterward, though, was sad;  This group therapy is not helping him one little bit, in fact, what we've seen here is the start of Mike transforming from the BCS Mike to the emotionless killer we know from BB.  Just like Jimmy turning into Saul, I wish we had more time with their "good" versions before they go bad!

 

Nacho - Every week things look worse and worse for poor Nacho   Every time he has a scene with his dad, it's so sad!   And his injuries seem like they need serious medical attention; I was wondering if he was going to ask for a real doctor connection now that he "proved" himself.

 

Jimmy - I was SO mad at him when he lied to Kim about taking the job, then so happy when he called them back and took it.  Pretty fascinating little sequence, really.  Really shows the struggle he is facing between being an honest guy and making money his own way; Kim seems to be the only thing tempering those desires somewhat, and I think he'd break pretty bad if she ever leaves him.  I LOVED how the honest job as a cell phone salesman is seemingly going to turn into a way to meet a bunch of criminals that he can legally help out (by selling them burner phones).  One more step towards becoming Saul.

 

Gus - Hopefully I wasn't the only one a bit confused by the end of the episode?  I completely understand his expansion plans; Take over other territories until it's just him and Hector, eventually kill Hector too once max pain has been delivered.  Which explains why he got Nacho under his thumb, first because he doesn't want anyone else killing Hector, and second because Nacho can help with his expansion plans.  But the only part I didn't get was at the end, with Mike.  We the audience know that Mike knew about Nacho's pill swap, and didn't stop him.  But how in the world did Gus figure out that Mike knew what Nacho was up to?  Did I miss something, or are we supposed to be left wondering until next week?

[Jay 37,314]

Anybody else seen episode 4 yet?

[crocodile 7,988]

I've seen it. And enjoyed it too.

 

Karol

[Jay 37,314]

How did Guys know that Mike knew about Nacho switching the pills?

[Alex 2,833]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

How did Guys know that Mike knew about Nacho switching the pills?

 

Nacho met with Pryce (the bumbling criminal) to buy copies of the pills and Mike was there. (Episode “Expenses” from Season 3). 

 

EDIT. Ignore, I didn’t read the question properly, sorry 

[Jay 37,314]

That's not what I asked.

 

I know that Mike knew what Naco was up to - Mike even says so himself ("I said I wouldn't kill him, I didn't say I'd be his bodyguard").

 

I asked how GUS knew that MIKE knew what Nacho was up to.

[Alex 2,833]

I assume Gus just knows everything. Found this on reddit 

[Jay 37,314]

Well, sure, there's always that explanation - that Gus said "if there's anything you need to tell me, now is the time" purely to see what Mike would say, not actually knowing WHAT he would say.  Maybe he didn't know that Mike knew about the pills before hand - who knows.  I think Mike immediately figured him out, though - that the REAL reason Gus even wanted to meet with him, was because he wanted Mike to do a new job for him.... something we'll probably see next week.

[Alex 2,833]

Episode 4 was a Jonathan Banks acting masterclass. He’s fascinating to watch.

[Jay 37,314]

Yep!

[Jay 37,314]

BETTER CALL SAUL 4x05 Quite a Ride

 

Woohoo, that was a fun episode!  I NEVER saw that teaser coming - who knew we'd start following a third timeline on top of the normal timeline and the Gene timeline (and the various flashbacks, I guess).  I suppose this could be a one-off tease, but I expect if they rebuilt this old BB set, they're gonna do more than just this one scene with it - but who knows.  It was pretty good how effortlessly Oedenkirk fell right back into late BB-era Saul - his mannerisms and speech patterns where different enough from where Jimmy is now to completely differentiate the 6 years of difference in age and life experience.  Good stuff.

 

Mike helping Gus find the specialist needed to secretly build the lab under the laundromat was a pretty cool series of scenes, too.  It's completely plausible that where they are now in 2003, the lab won't be ready for Walter until 2009.  LIke the German guy said, it's a MASSIVE undertaking to carve that out in secret at night without ideal equipment, 6 years of work is very plausible.  Man, Gus must already have a lot of capital on his hands to already be able to fund this now!

 

Kim kind of screwing over Mesa Verde a bit for some lame drug charge public defense cases was another interesting turn in her character.  She's said so little this season but through 5 episodes the amount of change she's gone through is pretty interesting.  I really have no idea at all what the future has in store for her.

 

Jimmy's scenes this week were so well done.  Going from legitimately selling some phones, to using his old skillset to do the after-hours sale of his entire inventory was a great sequence - I loved the fact that if he had just left those last four phones unsold instead of dealing with the biker gang, things could have been so different.  It's a big bummer that those 3 really young kids were able to jump him without even any weapons, I would have liked to have seen him fight back just a little more.  I wonder if he'll hire Mike to body guard for future night sales, or if he'll go back to just being a legit salesman?  And how does he explain all the missing inventory to his boss?

 

The scene with Hamlin was kind of weird.  To see the guy who has been so with-it for 30 episodes taking this drastic turn here is kind of interesting, and almost feels underdeveloped for the show when other character development can be more developed with less screen time.  A little insight into Hamlin's life when our main characters aren't around him could help, perhaps.  Again I have no idea where his story arc could be going.

 

The most interesting parts of all here are Kim and Jimmy's relationship, and Jimmy's scene at the end.  As far as the relationship goes, it's been pretty interesting to see Jimmy again walk the line between being honest with Kim and lying to her face. Last week he lied about the cell phone job, but then immediately took it anyway.  This week he truthfully told her he was mugged outside the Dog House.... but completely omitted that he was only there illegally selling his company's cell phones.  The way Rhea Seehorn delivered the line "you're not one of them any more" (or whatever the actual words were) was so pitch perfect, a combination of hope she's actually right, sterness that she wants him to be, and fear that she's wrong... she's great.  And Jimmy's little speech at the end of the episode about wanting to be a lawyer when his probation is up seems like it should be an insight into his thought process, but since the show would be boring if he just sells cellphones for the next 5 episodes, I wonder what else he's actually planning.

[Matt S. 493]

I was so thrown by that teaser...it was so unexpected to be suddenly thrown back into the BB world...I admit I actually wondered if AMC screwed up and was airing an old BB episode that I'd forgotten about! 

 

Here's an article that was posted after the episode aired where Odenkirk talks about the sudden flash-forward to BB:

 

https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/03/better-call-saul-bob-odenkirk-breaking-bad-scene/

 

Sounds like that won't be the only glimpse of BB we'll see.

 

 

 

 

[Jay 37,314]

What did you think about the rest of the episode?

[Matt S. 493]

It's hard to say.  I mean it is amazingly well directed, acted, and written as always.  This show is like a slow burn...always takes some time and repeated viewings for everything to really sink in.  It seems, at least on the surface, that not much has happened yet this season (and I can't believe we're already at the halfway point)...Nacho has probably had the biggest upset in his world, but for Jimmy, Kim, and Mike, everything seems to be moving in slow motion.  We know where we're headed with Jimmy and Mike, but no so with Kim.  There just seems to be such a under-the-surface tension with all of Kim's scenes, that I can't help but feel we're headed for something tragic, and sooner rather than later.  This season, more than others, has a very dark feel to it.

 

1 hour ago, Jay said:

It's a big bummer that those 3 really young kids were able to jump him without even any weapons, I would have liked to have seen him fight back just a little more.  I wonder if he'll hire Mike to body guard for future night sales, or if he'll go back to just being a legit salesman?  And how does he explain all the missing inventory to his boss?

 

He paid for all of those phones; he went to the store and rang each sale into the register, and put the cash in the drawer.  No doubt he sold them for quite a markup on the street.

 

1 hour ago, Jay said:

And Jimmy's little speech at the end of the episode about wanting to be a lawyer when his probation is up seems like it should be an insight into his thought process, but since the show would be boring if he just sells cellphones for the next 5 episodes, I wonder what else he's actually planning.

 

It was brilliant to start this episode with the BB scene, with Saul's practice ruined and him leaving town in a panic, then end it with Jimmy looking forward to becoming a lawyer again, wanting everything to be bigger and better.  Sort of reminding us in reverse about what's to come. 

[Jay 37,314]

Yeah, exactly! What he says at the end rings true if you've seen BB, but if you haven't, the opening flashforward gives them the same undertone a BB viewer would have. Good stuff!

 

And you're right, I forgot he legitimately paid for all the phones out of his own personal money before reselling them for a markup. So yeah, as far as the actual store is concerned, everything's kosher.

 

And his boss never even got to see the sign he painted!

[Matt S. 493]

43 minutes ago, Jay said:

And his boss never even got to see the sign he painted!

 

I was surprised he gave up on that so easily....it was a smart sales gimmick, and it worked, too.  He just needed to be a little smarter about where and when he sold the phones.

[crocodile 7,988]

Good episode! Yet again!

 

Karol

[Jay 37,314]

1 hour ago, Matt S. said:

 

I was surprised he gave up on that so easily....it was a smart sales gimmick, and it worked, too.  He just needed to be a little smarter about where and when he sold the phones.

 

Well, he let his greed get the better of him, really;  After he was done spending hours at the Dog House selling them, he only had 4 left when the bikers showed up, and could have just taken them home and called the night a big win.  But he couldn't help himself from wanting to sell those last 4, too, and paid for it in the end.

 

It will be interesting to see if even without the sign he gets a bunch of new customers; He told that one customer who bought them in the store to "tell your friends", and perhaps mentioned where they could get more to the Dog House guys, too.

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

Damn I forgot this show was back.

[Jay 37,314]

It's been back for 5 weeks now - season's half over!

 

If you guys have cable, they should all be available On Demand

[Thor 7,477]

The story is the story. Good as always.

 

What continually impresses me, though, is the reliance on ellipses and what they don't tell, explicitly (if you've forgotten the whole 'underground lab' thing from BB, you have no idea why those people are brought there and what it is they do untill the very end). Also the camera angles (very high or low), static shots (loved the image of Jimmy selling the phone to the gigolo, taking a similar pose -- flashback to similar static shots with Kim outside their offices), the use of neon (and neon reflected in water) in the Dog House scenes (very Road House/TWIN PEAKS), the sweaty orange of the outdoors (precursoring BB) or the dark blues of the lab. I'm interested in the storyline, obviously, but it is these things that make this show stand apart for me.

[Jay 37,314]

Totally agreed, Thor.  The writing is the highlight of this show and the biggest factor in what makes it so great, but the show wouldn't be as great as it is without the excellent directing and acting that goes hand in hand with the great writing.  Everyone involved with this show brings their A game 

[crumbs 14,304]

This episode was superbly directed. I didn't recognise the director's name, was he a first-time director in the BB/BCS universe? Sublime photography throughout, captivating and strong performances.

 

There's such a sense of dread creeping into the show now. You're really starting to see the weight of Jimmy's actions bearing down upon those around him now; I don't think things are going to end well for Howard or Kim at all Howard is clearly wrought with guilt over something that really wasn't his fault, and Kim seems to be self-sabotaging her career.

[Jay 37,314]

It was directed by Michael Morris, a first-time director for this show, though he's directed for a plethora of modern shows (Kingdom, Bloodline, Halt and Catch Fire, Preacher, House of Cards, Shameless, Billions, etc)

 

Yea, if Jimmy were to tell Howard that it was him that told the insurance agency about Chuck's condition, it would probably "cure" Howard fairly well.  But It's clear Jimmy has no motivation to ever do that.

Kim seems to be following in Jimmy's path of self-sabotaging her career, just like he did at Davis & Main.  It doesn't seem like it will be too long before she asks him to do another "light" con with him.... and where could things go from there....

[Quintus 5,399]

The most recent episode I watched was the one where Jimmy takes a job in a mobile phone shop. Now I'm all for slow burn TV drama and filmmaking, but this was downright glacial. Time stood still, such was the slow pace of what was a mostly boring episode. Those long wasteful scenes of Jimmy hanging around waiting for customers and then the painting montage better have a reason for being later on. Otherwise, this was far too indulgently meandering for my taste.

[Jay 37,314]

The next episode after that one picks up the pace

[Thor 7,477]

Today's episode was good as usual. It's unbelievable how quickly the 45-minute episodes run by for something that is so slow-moving in a narrative sense.

 

Not too thrilled with the opening flashback. I really have no interest in seeing Jimmy during his mailman days at HHM. It takes away some of the mystery of his past (I have this issue with most 'origin' stories, btw), and I feel it was properly covered in dialogue before.

 

However, this new 'cell phone guy' persona he has now adopted more permanently, dressed in tacky red sweatpants, I enjoy. And immense pleasure to see the comeuppance on the bratty kids that robbed him in the last episode (or was it two episodes ago?).

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Well, the opening flashback was meant to tie in Kim's ambition with later in the episode with her moving over to the new law firm.  Also nice little cameo by a former character at HHM.  When Jimmy excused himself to go to the restroom I thought he was going to have another panic attack like he did at the Cinnabon earlier this season.  Maybe this decision by Kim will lead to their splitting up?

 

I'm sure there will be a not-so-happy ending for the German guy who wanted to stay behind the bar instead of listening to Mike's speech.

 

Great scene at the end in the pinata shop!  At first I thought the thugs were really not listening to Jimmy and were going to rough the kids up anyway.  Tense moment there.

 

Best part was when Jimmy came to HHM to collect his $5k check and calling out Howard, who promptly dropped an F-bomb.  That was unexpected!  Didn't know they could go there, reminds me of TWD when the group was trapped in the boxcars at Terminus, they originally wanted Rick to say "They're fucking with the wrong people" but I believe they weren't able to do that?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that one.

[Thor 7,477]

1 hour ago, ATXHusker said:

Well, the opening flashback was meant to tie in Kim's ambition with later in the episode with her moving over to the new law firm. 

 

Yes, I know why it was there. I just didn't want to see it. For me, it "took away" something from the whole BB/BCS universe.

[crumbs 14,304]

19 hours ago, ATXHusker said:

Best part was when Jimmy came to HHM to collect his $5k check and calling out Howard, who promptly dropped an F-bomb.  That was unexpected!  Didn't know they could go there, reminds me of TWD when the group was trapped in the boxcars at Terminus, they originally wanted Rick to say "They're fucking with the wrong people" but I believe they weren't able to do that?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that one. 

 

As an Australian, it's quite bizarre how profanity seems to be such a taboo thing on US television. Especially in a show filled with such explicit violence and drug use!

 

Even watching Survivor, words like "piss" (as in "piss off") and "ass" are beeped! 😂

[Jay 37,314]

Better Call Saul 4x06 Piñata

 

That teaser WAS AWESOME!  Any time we get any insight into Kim's past before the pilot episode is great, and it was wonderful to finally see Rhea acting as a younger version of Kim, and to finally show some of Kim and Jimmy's relationship before the pilot.  A return of a younger Chuck was also nice.  I thought it was interesting that Jimmy wasn't interested in being a lawyer immediately after Chuck bailed him out of jail and got him a job in the mailroom, that it was a conversation with Kim that made him want to step foot into a library and see what it was all about.  Or was he playing dumb and pretending to barely understand the case Kim was excited about that Chuck had won, and that wasn't his first trip to the library?

 

So Kim has finally vocalized her arc this season: She wants to have her cake and eat it too; She wants to do banking law and continue to help criminals in public defense cases.  It seems a little too easy that she was able to talk her way into starting a new banking division at Schweikart and Cokely and thinks she'll be able to run that AND focus on her other cases... we'll see where it goes.  What was more fascinating was watching Jimmy react to this news, first with mini-panic attack (his dreams of WM complete with neon sign effectively over), then seeming approval.

 

In fact, I can't quite get the pulse of Jimmy and Kim's relationship.  They seem to constantly go right up to lying to each other (or omitting important information until they have to reveal it), while still kind of technically being honest with each other (for the most part).  Their relationship seemed pretty strong for a while but as this season goes on, it seems to be based on not much of a foundation any more.  They are almost too self-driven and independent to be true partners in anything - law practice or domestic partnership.  But without Kim, what will Jimmy do?

 

In other Jimmy scenes, we had the phone call from a relative of one of his first elder law clients, and the regret he shows when he can't help them is palpable.  His scene with Hamlin in the middle of the episode WAS GREAT!  I absolutely loved their interaction with each other, and side with Jimmy 100%!  OK, I don't know if Hamlin is a good lawyer or not, be he sure IS a good salesman, and he sure DOES need to get out there and sell his law firm instead of wallowing around in the wake of Chuck's death.  As much as Jimmy was right, I still LOVED his "fuck you, Jimmy!" response - PERFECTLY delivered.  And I liked his little scam to trick the young punks that beat him up before to back off with some light intimidation.  I do wonder how much of this plan would have happened if Kim hadn't told him what she did.

Mike's scenes were good too, I enjoy the bits about the German team that will build the meth lab, and that one guy being a dick is surely something that will pay off shortly.  Him scene with Stacey was really good too - Mike has a hard time expressing his feelings, but knows when he has to - or at least when he has to apologize and what he has to change.  Gus's little story to Hector was nice, and nicely delivered, but a bit too on the nose (I mean, it's not even a slight parallel to what he does with Hector from now until BB timeline, it's exactly the same thing).

 

Two weeks in a row without Nacho.  I hope he's gonna make it through the season alive!

[Jay 37,314]

Better Call Saul 4x07 Something Stupid

 

Ooof, that was brutal.  The slow disintegration of Jim and Kimmy's relationship had more of an impact on me than the sudden death of Chuck.

The opening montage was bloody brilliant.  In a show that's been full of bloody brilliant montages for years, this one is right up there as one of the best ones.  Such a cool way to show not only the passage of 8 months' time (we're finally in 2004!), but also how Jim and Kimmy are slowly but steadily drifting apart.  When she fades out at the end when he opens his eyes, brutal man.

 

The Mike / Germans / meth lab storyline continues to be good.  I think Kai's time alive is numbered.  And actually, I wonder if Gus plans on killing the entire team when the work is done.  Their R&R trip (presumably) next week should be interesting!

 

The fact that the specialist doctor curing Hector was working for Gus was a nice reveal.  How bloody sadistic is he to cut off the recovery as soon as he can tell Hector is completely cognizant in there.  This revenge plan of his is approaching Oldboy levels!

 

The fact that it's a random misunderstanding / "assault" by Huell that kicks us of into the home stretch of the season is kinda funny.  Seemingly lower stakes than the big Jimmy/Chuck court case that season 3 built up to!  The lack of communication between Jim and Kimmy was heartbreaking during all this.  She finds out he's been lying to her for 9 months about selling cell phones to criminals.  He suggests taking down the cop to get Huell off despite the fact that he should absolutely KNOW (and LOVE about her) that she would never do that.  She decides to help him anyway, and is visibly hurt when the prosecutor calls Jimmy a scumbag.  So many interesting facets and wrinkles in all these scenes.

 

At the end, I am dying to know what her idea is.  Looked like she was buying children's coloring books and markers?  Is she going to have kids fake a bunch of letters saying how much they love Huell?  That would be falsifying evidence, so I doubt it.  Making a bunch of signs for protesters to use outside the courthouse, because in all of the other similar cases by the prosecutor where the perp got less time, the perp was white, and Huell is black?  Seems unlikely for this show.  Or she was buying supplies anyway for something else, then got the epiphany while there?  Maybe.

Can't wait to find out next week!

 

No Hamlin OR Nacho this week.  Can't wait to see what they're up to after 9 months.  Maybe Nacho will survive the season after all.

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Just finished watching, another great episode!  Don Hector playing the dirty old man bit had me rolling!  

 

Kim obviously not pleased that the PA called Jimmy a "scumbag", at first I thought she was buying supplies for the case like she did in a previous episode montage but then she started grabbing crayons and colored markers / pencils?!  Like Jay, I have no idea what she's got planned but I'm sure it'll be good and possibly even lead to a permanent breakup between them if the plan goes to shit.

[Jay 37,314]

I really hope they have a happy ending (it IS possible/plausible), but it seems more and more likely that they won't

[Alex 2,833]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

 

The fact that the specialist doctor curing Hector was working for Gus was a nice reveal.  How bloody sadistic is he to cut off the recovery as soon as he can tell Hector is completely cognizant in there.  This revenge plan of his is approaching Oldboy levels!

 

Maybe I’m imagining things but wasn’t this already known or at least strongly hinted at? I recall Gus asking for a Dr when he knew Hector’s condition. I dunno, I feel I always knew she was working for Gus.

[Jay 37,314]

It certainly wasn't a surprise and I honestly don't remember if it was explicit or just assumed that she was working for Gus.  Doesn't matter.

Point is, he's a sadistic fuck!