Ricard 2,245 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Lonnegan said: Which videos are people watching to hear the score snippets? The latest trailer? Check the main page from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm assuming the "score snippets" are indeed fragments taken from several different pieces? The separate ideas are all brilliant IMHO although none of the ideas last quite long enough so I'm definitely hoping they're different tracks. The main-sounding theme and the dangerous-sounding waltz (the first two snippets) sound better than I was hoping (i.e. not too close to the "too many notes" workmanlike end of the scale, like Tintin is IMHO). There's definitely an effortlessness and majesty to what I've heard so far. The fact some of the reviewers have said the music is heavy-handed doesn't especially concern me. I expect soaring "old-fashioned" orchestral film music to be criticised these days, and I more or less couldn't care less how the music sounds in the film as long as it sounds amazing by itself. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 If Raiders were released today, the Raiders March would be criticised as a "simplistic melody," The Map Room would be labelled "distracting," and Marion's Theme would be "saccharine and manipulative." I'd hate to think what critics thought of E.T. back in the day, but these things never change. Critics hate the John Williams school of film music; they love their film scores to be nothing more than atmospheric wallpaper. fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 A Wonderfully Magical Collaboration! Disney-Dahl-Mathison-Spielberg-Williams. Cannot wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Roald Dahl didn't collaborate with anyone involved in this film though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 B.S Studio-Author (source material novel)-Screenwriter-Director-Composer! Geddit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Don't take that tone with me! Who do you think you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 22 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Roald Dahl didn't collaborate with anyone involved in this film though. He's dead Jim. Max McGuire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 It's Steef....STEEF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Sith Lord & Jedi Master to you Steef as it was infact ME who gave my gold sharpie to John Williams to sign your Phantom Menace LP then signed for me back in Boston 2013! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Joining this thread... at page 12... and feeling very lazy. Is this a co-conducted score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 As far as we know, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bespin said: Joining this thread... at page 12... and feeling very lazy. Is this a co-conducted score? Nope, unlike TFA (on which he asked William Ross to handle the baton for heavier sessions), Williams conducted the entirety of The BFG on the scoring stage. He couldn't conduct last year immediately following his pacemaker surgery due to doctor's orders, but it appears he's recovered well 12 months on. Bespin and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Credited ONLY as JOHN WILLIAMS! B.S Steef read your meeting JW and Boston threads mate! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Zelda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Stefancos/media/Boston%202013/IMG_5736_zpsb366bf42.jpg.html There's your LP Steef getting signed with my gold sharpie & I enjoyed your trip concert review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Can you proof it's your sharpie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 YES I can with evidence that I still got it and the album cover JW signed for me as WE were standing with other JWFANers outside waiting for JW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Why don't you guys take this discussion over to the thread for the concert in question so we can keep talking about the new John Williams score here http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/22593-john-williams-at-symphony-hall-june-7-12-2013-boston-ma/&page=15 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yes indeed but the thread is HOT right now! SORTED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just ignore Jason, he thinks he's doing his job. Thank you for the sharpie. Though I have to stress that it in no have gives you any right of ownership over my signed LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 No probs Steef-what memories they were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 508 Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 It's funny how many people instinctively go to bash.... I actually smiled when I heard that theme. Interesting chord change in there that is unexpected which I always love from him. The mickey mousing never bothers me and it's actually pretty hard to do very well. It's being able to handle the orchestra in a very smart and deft way and use all the colors available. Not many people can do that now. Hardly anyone actually. But it's also not modern day scoring which is why it's not done. I can understand some reviewers claim of heavy handed because nowadays it's how can you best make this scene work with as little notes as possible. Does it work in film, sure, can it be effective, sometimes very effective, other times not, but can it also be memorable or have any lasting effect or be listened to outside the film, hell no. The one thing I love about Williams is how many themes I can hum, how many chase scenes I can recall beautifully and how they all are so different. I can't say that about any other film music composer. I'll be waiting for this to come out even more excited now. Jacck, crumbs, Joni Wiljami and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 In-fucking-deed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I can only imagine what some of these critics would think of E.T. if it were released today. They'd probably hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just now, nightscape94 said: I can only imagine what some of these critics would think of E.T. if it were released today. They'd probably hate it. "Williams' heavy-handed score plays relentlessly over the ending Bicycle chase, which would have benefited more from eerie silence." artguy360, crumbs and Joni Wiljami 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 7 hours ago, nightscape94 said: I can only imagine what some of these critics would think of E.T. if it were released today. They'd probably hate it. And rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 You have to be joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I am afraid TWR is truly and irreverently unimpressed by E.T. As for BFG I'll reserve my judgement until I have heard the music either in the film or on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 ET has vile language that's insensitive to our lgtqb friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I agree with him that, bicycle chase notwithstanding, the last minute or so treads a very delicate line in between glorious and horrendous (the score got positive AND negative mentions by those critic monsters from hell even back in the 80's, believe it or not). But again i must ask all the usual pompous JW folk patting themselves on the back for recognizing the true and best way to score a children's movie and how the BFG is an instant classic just for the fact that is was written by JW: did you even bother to READ some of the reviews? It's not that they're out for blood or something - but of course, instead of reading time is better spent on getting the forks and torches out. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Indeed. Naturally I'm casting out bait with my E.T. comment. It is known that I don't enjoy it nearly as much as most here do, but I wouldn't feel compelled to earnestly disparage it. But pub makes the point. It's too temptingly amusing to chime in with the opposite extreme when folks come out with their "I know good film music, and no one else does, and look at the ignorant anti-symphonic peasants!" hats on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I only own it on VHS and never bought a soundtrack CD. You don't like it less than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 So none of us have seen the film or heard the score either in context or on CD. What the heck are we all baying about at this stage? KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The typical rampant negativity of the internet. Passing judgment based on nothing at all. Is anyone seriously surprised that this is a children's film? It's based on a children's book for goodness sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The very last minute of E.T., as the movie comes to an end, I probably consider to be the greatest and most quintessential moment in music in the long Williams and Spielberg collaboration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes! I don't expect The BFG to go anywhere near that. But it doesn't have to to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I haven't really listened to any of the new music yet. The quality of its sound in those videos is terrible; and yet people have apparently already formed comprehensive views and final judgements on it here. Fucking lunatics. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Listening to the first part of the theme or what I can hear from the clip, it reminds me of some Tchaikovsky Ballets in the chord changes. Very cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: I haven't really listened to any of the new music yet. The quality of its sound in those videos is terrible; and yet people have apparently already formed comprehensive views and final judgements on it here. Fucking lunatics. I'm happy to ignore any trailers, soundclips etc since I will watch the film and buy the score and wanna go in with an open mind. Worked very well for TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 26 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I'm happy to ignore any trailers, soundclips etc since I will watch the film and buy the score and wanna go in with an open mind. Worked very well for TFA. Thanks to the hermetically tight secrecy surrounding TFA and the fact that the score was released on the day the movie came out made this the first JW score in a long time I heard only after first seeing the film in the cinema. Which was rather refreshing in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I had to vacate this place for a few weeks though. The angsty speculations regarding the film and score became off putting. And look! Everyone is doing the same thing now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Since I've already decided that I'll be seeing this film when it comes out, I'm not going to base my expectations on any reviews which have come out before then. I'm just going to enter the cinema and have a fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, loert said: Since I've already decided that I'll be seeing this film when it comes out, I'm not going to base my expectations on any reviews which have come out before then. I'm just going to enter the cinema and have a fun time. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Anybody know? When's the OS album getting released? Couldn't find it on amazon yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Here it is on Amazon, July 1st is listed release date Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: Here it is on Amazon, July 1st is listed release date Oh yeah!! Two weeks to to go. Can't wait. Trying to decide whether to listen to the CD first, or hearing the score in the movie first. Always that tough dilemma. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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