Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Sounds like it's of the Harry Potter musical universe, but that's not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 13 hours ago, king mark said: it's that very last clip at around 7.20 that gave me goosebumps.Sounds like a genuine great Williams moment and caught my attention more than anything in the samples *prays it's not an unreleased cue*  When the main theme starts at 7:28, it was a very calming and peaceful moment. Beautiful.  9 hours ago, king mark said: We are not assured of that...  so about 1 hour of unreleased Williams music in full fantasy mode  The LLL release in 15-20 years should put you in good spirits. crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Williams is looking and sounding great these days compared to a couple years ago, when I was pretty concerned. Age regression? Â I wish he'd do more than just the occasional boring mediocre Spielberg film or Star Wars. He's all we've got left. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,220 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 No, he should exclusively score fantasy films and Star Wars  I believe the biggest waste of Williams scores are historical dramas.Most of them are dust collectors Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I thought The Force Awakens score didn't do it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,220 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Well, I like TFA and listen to it quite often, but it just fell a bit short of my expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,157 Posted June 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2016 59 minutes ago, king mark said: No, he should exclusively score fantasy films and Star Wars  I believe the biggest waste of Williams scores are historical dramas.Most of them are dust collectors  I can't even... crumbs, Dixon Hill, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, king mark said: No, he should exclusively score fantasy films and Star Wars  I believe the biggest waste of Williams scores are historical dramas.Most of them are dust collectors Adventure would be acceptable too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I do agree, though. Typically, fantasy and adventure films have provided the most entertaining Williams scores for me. Jaws, Star Wars, Superman, Indy, E.T., Amazing Stories: The Mission, Hook, Jurassic Park, Harry Potter and Always, of course. That material inspired far more eclectic and entertaining Williams scores than the boring dramas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,130 Posted June 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 hours ago, king mark said:  I believe the biggest waste of Williams scores are historical dramas.Most of them are dust collectors  Some pretty excellent dust collectors, those. Pieter Boelen, Once and Jilal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 As much as I do prefer adventure/fantasy, I cannot deny that Williams' other works are indeed pretty excellent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,220 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Well some of them. Surprisingly The Book Thief is the film that moved me the most in the past few years.  I had listened to Visitor on Himmel Street/Rudy is Taken and Finale on c.d. and thought the music was pretty sad and was wondering what scenes it would score. When I saw the film the music worked so well it was one of my saddest Willliams moment Joni Wiljami and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,723 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If JW didn't do historical dramas we'd have never gotten the brilliant trilogy of scores JFK, Born on the 4th, and Nixon. That's to say nothing of Lincoln, Munich, Schindler's List, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 My saddest Williams moment was when I listened to the KOTCS OST. A one-and-done? I cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,084 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I often find myself returning to KotCS as I find there's more to it than just a once-over listen.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,394 Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 14 hours ago, king mark said: No, he should exclusively score fantasy films and Star Wars  I believe the biggest waste of Williams scores are historical dramas.Most of them are dust collectors  He should score whatever the hell he wants.  You're not even a John Williams fan really are you. Will, Wojo, KK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,448 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 When you say these unlistened to albums are dust collectors, are they collecting dust inside the jewel cases or out? Because inside the jewel cases is better. And I think you may have an air circulation problem in your home. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,173 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 6 hours ago, king mark said: Well some of them. Surprisingly The Book Thief is the film that moved me the most in the past few years.  I had listened to Visitor on Himmel Street/Rudy is Taken and Finale on c.d. and thought the music was pretty sad and was wondering what scenes it would score. When I saw the film the music worked so well it was one of my saddest Willliams moment Yes!! Finally some common sense here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,505 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 6 hours ago, hornist said: Yes!! Finally some common sense here. I also think that it is one of Williams saddest moment, by the least, from recent years. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,173 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 So sad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,976 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 20 sec clip featuring whimsical writing from JW (starts at 38:20) Â Â Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,892 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 The film will open soft this holiday weekend. That's a polite way to say this film will bomb. I will get the score but skip the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,515 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Has this appeared on iTunes UK for anyone yet? Can't pre order it on there at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31,998 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 I don't believe iTunes does preorders until they've received the actual digital files they'll send on release day, and I don't think Disney has sent out the digital album to anyone yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,515 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I was able to pre order TFA, so I guess I just assumed but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,210 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 hours ago, JoeinAR said: The film will open soft this holiday weekend. That's a polite way to say this film will bomb. I will get the score but skip the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if this film ended up being Spielberg's biggest box-office failure. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I wouldn't be surprised if this film ended up being Spielberg's biggest box-office failure.  not doubting you but what makes you guys think it will fail so miserably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,692 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 31 minutes ago, JacksonElmore said: not doubting you but what makes you guys think it will fail so miserably Based on the reviews, the sense I get is that adults who have become accustomed to Pixar generic plotting and innuendo will not enjoy BFG. Thus, fewer parents will take their kids to see it.  I find it irritating when reviewers claim kids will not like the throwback storytelling. 7 year olds are not enslaved to fleeting cultural trends in the same way adults are. If parents take their kids to see it, my guess is the kids will enjoy it. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31,998 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Pixar can be accused of many faults, but... "generic plotting'? Once and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,693 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Pixar's hardly innuendo-laden either. Maybe Tom's confusing them with Dreamworks. leeallen01 and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31,998 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,692 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Okay, maybe the innuendo is less Pixar, but I find Pixar movies, aside from maybe up, to be generally the same. Anyone seen either of the Cars movies, Finding Nemo (I have not seen Dory, but my hunch is it is the same as Nemo) or Brave? Even Wall-E, which starts out as original quickly falls back on general kid movie tropes. Perhaps that is an unfair criticism of Pixar and more of any kids movie of the last 15 years, but that gets to my point. If BFG does not follow the general kid's movie plotting, shouldn't that be hailed as good versus Spielberg being out of touch with modern audiences (which several of the reviewers assert)? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,655 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Pixar movies often follow a road-trip formula, but The Incredibles and Ratatouille are blissful perfection for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,210 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Tom said: Based on the reviews, the sense I get is that adults who have become accustomed to Pixar generic plotting and innuendo will not enjoy BFG. Thus, fewer parents will take their kids to see it.  And also because it looks bad.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,892 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 that is what I think too. The effects look weak. Looks like Spielberg is trying too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,025 Posted June 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2016 John Williams discusses the score (video): Â http://www.traileraddict.com/the-bfg/interview-john-williams Loert, Smeltington, Will and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 7 hours ago, JoeinAR said: that is what I think too. The effects look weak. Looks like Spielberg is trying too hard  How do the effects look weak? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,976 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Ricard said: John Williams discusses the score (video):  http://www.traileraddict.com/the-bfg/interview-john-williams  Lovely, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,692 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Ricard said: John Williams discusses the score (video):  http://www.traileraddict.com/the-bfg/interview-john-williams The Dream sequence as ballet? This could be a really special cue. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,958 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 John looks more energetic than he did 3 years ago in those Book Thief interviews, where he seemed tired and exhausted. Â I think his operation has really given him a boost in energy! It's wonderful to see. Will and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,589 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 A lovely little interview with the Maestro! Thanks for sharing Ricard! Â Regarding the familial feel of the whole music production where Spielberg is present and enjoys it very much and knows the players, it really feels like after all these years the movies are just an excuse to have those recording sessions and make music and for Spielberg to enjoy it. Will and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,322 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 On 25/06/2016 at 3:17 AM, Booplor said:  Here's some B-roll from the movie. The last 2 minutes are John conducting the score.  At precisely 6:24 I was like...  Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,958 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 What do you reckon he's pointing at around 6.58? Unhappy with a performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 478 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 So it will be on iTunes on Friday? Is that commonly done or will they wait till Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,892 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: Â How do the effects look weak? They look horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, crumbs said: What do you reckon he's pointing at around 6.58? Unhappy with a performance? Â He's asking a musician to bring their part out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31,998 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, ocelot said: So it will be on iTunes on Friday?  Yes.  49 minutes ago, ocelot said: Is that commonly done or will they wait till Tuesday?  Don't understand the question.  The release date of the score is this Friday, July 1, and that's when it will be up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,515 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 On Amazon UK the release date seems to be the 8th July which isn't great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 478 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said:  Yes.   Don't understand the question.  The release date of the score is this Friday, July 1, and that's when it will be up for sale. iTunes usually does most of their releases on Tuesdays. That's when I get all my things that I preorder be it movies, tv series or music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,130 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 On 6/25/2016 at 9:26 PM, king mark said: Well some of them. Surprisingly The Book Thief is the film that moved me the most in the past few years.  I had listened to Visitor on Himmel Street/Rudy is Taken and Finale on c.d. and thought the music was pretty sad and was wondering what scenes it would score. When I saw the film the music worked so well it was one of my saddest Willliams moment  "Visitor on Himmel Street" is a great cue, and overall the Book Thief is a very good score. But I found the film overall (like the book) to be quite cold and emotionless. It felt like it should have made me cry, but it didn't. Not even nearly. On 6/25/2016 at 9:26 PM, king mark said: Well some of them. Surprisingly The Book Thief is the film that moved me the most in the past few years.  I had listened to Visitor on Himmel Street/Rudy is Taken and Finale on c.d. and thought the music was pretty sad and was wondering what scenes it would score. When I saw the film the music worked so well it was one of my saddest Willliams moment  TFA had some really emotional film-and-music moments as well. Not always sad, sometimes joyful, but emotional. Han and Chewie enter the Falcon, Han enters the cockpit, Rey and Finn are picked up from Starkiller Base by Chewbacca, and they and the X-wings fly home, R2 wakes up, Rey and co. depart for Ahch-To, etc. On 6/27/2016 at 5:15 PM, Not Mr. Big said: And also because it looks bad.   Looks fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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