Jurassic World (Jurassic Park 4)

[Jay 37,336]

I've had the same thought myself. It's be great to do a fresh adaptation of the first book that included all the scenes and followed its plot much more closely. It would have a either be 2 movies or a television miniseries though.

And of course, TLW movie had almost nothing to do with TLW book so it'd be cool so see that plot adapted as well

[Matt C 452]

But Jurassic Park 4 would not have George Lucas involved, so there's still hope for a serviceable movie.

True. But when Spielberg announces at Comic Con that they have a good story and they want to get the movie out in 2-3 more years -- why go do a 180 a few months later? Did Mark Protosevich's deal fall through? Did the producers not like the drafts? All these questions Kennedy nor Spielberg haven't answered.

[Thor 7,490]

I've always thought it would be interesting to eventually (maybe in another ten or twenty years) try Jurassic Park again, following the book story line more closely. I think they're out of fresh sequel material (and what they have already done was unnecessary). They could do the same for TLW. You could even split the movies like they're doing with Breaking Dawn (except it would be justified).

I don't share that sentiment at all. First of all, because I'm no fan of unnecessary remakes. Second because the universe is VAST and there are lots of things to explore beyond what has already been told in the first three movies. Heck, the recent JP: THE GAME proved that (which took place during and immediately after the events of the first film).

Sequels or prequels are fine. Remakes not so much.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I'd love to see a film about the dinosaurs. No humans, no talking, no subtitles. Dinosaur survival, a pseudo-documentary.

[Thor 7,490]

I'd love to see a film about the dinosaurs. No humans, no talking, no subtitles. Dinosaur survival, a pseudo-documentary.

Yeah, that would be cool, but I doubt it's going to happen in a live action format. I've said the same thing about aliens many times (i.e. I'd love to see a film with aliens, but withOUT humans....and where said aliens don't speak English, of course). People just need that human element, it seems.

But yes, definitely, I'd sign up for that idea. Hopefully done more convincingly than the BBC documentaries. Perhaps a bit like the brief dinosaur sequence in TREE OF LIFE.

[Brónach 1,302]

I'd love to see a film about the dinosaurs. No humans, no talking, no subtitles. Dinosaur survival, a pseudo-documentary.

Yeah, that would be cool, but I doubt it's going to happen in a live action format. I've said the same thing about aliens many times (i.e. I'd love to see a film with aliens, but withOUT humans....and where said aliens don't speak English, of course). People just need that human element, it seems.

But yes, definitely, I'd sign up for that idea. Hopefully done more convincingly than the BBC documentaries. Perhaps a bit like the brief dinosaur sequence in TREE OF LIFE.

Hmm the dinosaur scene is nicely artistic looking, but I'm not sure I would call the effects convincing. It's a great scene though, it looks beautiful. I find it cool that it's set roughly in the same area as the rest of the film.

As for the dinosaur thing without humans, or even the aliens, I'm all for it. I don't need the humans. I have sketches somewhere for an realistic animated short film about a dinosaur, without narration whatsoever, but I have no experience in animation to make it.

The alien comment reminded me of the middle section of Asimov's The Gods Themselves.

[Jeff 10]

Sequels or prequels are fine. Remakes not so much.

Remakes that are better than the original (or at least good films in their own right), IMO:

- Sabrina

- Ocean's 11

- Father of the Bride

- True Grit

- Casino Royale

- King Kong

Sequels/Prequels that never should have been made:

- Pointless to make this list.

Plus, think of all the versions of A Christmas Carol, Peter Pan, Jane Austen novels, Shakespeare plays, etc. that re-imagine the original source material. Movies like The Lion King and West Side Story could fall into that category.

[Thor 7,490]

Of course. It was not a criticism of remakes in general. The 1959 BEN HUR is better than the silent film too. Some remakes are quite warranted.

However, when the films are brand new (or relatively new), I've never really seen the point. Like all those HULK films as of late. And I especially don't want to see it in the case of JP, which has a great continuity set out (with the same actors reprising their roles). Plus, the original film is perfect!

[Jeff 10]

Agreed on Hulk. And personally, I'm not ready for another Spiderman, either. But like I said, maybe in twenty years JP will be old enough that we can see a remake.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Jay 37,336]

Anyway, we almost had such a film with Disney's Dinosaur. The beginning was awesome. Then they started to talk.

Agreed. Was SO disappointed by that

[Charlie Brigden 7]

If I remember correctly, an early incarnation of DINOSAUR was supposed to be like that, and would've been produced by Phil Tippett and Paul Verhoeven.

[Brónach 1,302]

I think I read somehere that The Land Before Time was supposed to have no dialogue as well but it was changed.

[Muad'Dib 1,801]

Indeed. I have an animation project with the same idea of Fantasia, but more plot-oriented.

Let's see is some day it sees the light of the day...

[gkgyver 1,645]

I'd love to see a film about the dinosaurs. No humans, no talking, no subtitles. Dinosaur survival, a pseudo-documentary.

Had a serviceable score too.

[Jeff 10]

The Land Before Time and Dinosaur wouldn't have been able to carry a feature-length film without dialogue. They are aimed at children, after all. And look at Fantasia - the dinosaurs only inhabit one sequence of the entire film, and it's probably one of the most boring sections for most children. It wasn't a financial success initially.

I'm not a huge fan of Dinosaur (maybe I was too old when it came out), but Land Before Time is a classic.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Jeff 10]

It's pretty long and boring except for a couple of brief confrontations between the dinosaurs. I think the reason I don't like it overall is because the Rite of Spring isn't my cup of tea.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,511]

Harris was OK in the first movie, but boring in the second.

Give him a break, he had cancer!

Edit: And I believe Attenborough suffered a very severe hit recently. I don't he's going back to acting or directing, sadly...

That's sad. I shall remember my meeting with Mr. Attenborough with great fondness.

[scallenger 483]

I'm a huge JP fan (see my avatar, which is concept art from the ride btw), but I am oddly not a fan of a fourth film at this point. Every time Spielberg or the producers discuss JP4 anymore the biggest connecting thread is that it will be ANOTHER trilogy (groan) and it will be very different than the other films. It's almost like, why call it Jurassic Park then? Call it something else! Like Dino Crisis: The Movie, haha. Or simply remake it, even though I wouldn't be a fan of that either unless they followed the novels much more closely (since they were very different in many respects, including a darker tone). Remember the initial idea they had with the "dinosaurs with guns"? I was furious about it when I first heard about it because that idea feels nothing like Jurassic Park. It feels like something from Dino Riders (hey, just make that into a movie!). But that's what makes me mad. I don't mind people wanting to do new ideas with dinosaurs. But they just want package it, slap Jurassic Park's label on a lunchbox, and now they're just selling, they're just selling!

Seriously though, I think a prequel story would actually work better than a sequel. There could be a lot more they could explain about how the actual park was made, the events that happened on Site B before it was abandoned, and etc. Hell, they could have had an undocumented "breakout" that happened before the event of the first film that actually DID get contained. That way the story would still have some conflict.

Someone also mentioned the game earlier. I'm almost mad that the game had the story it did, because in my opinion it would have been a fantastic film. They could still do it, honestly. They just need to recreate a few of the known locales that they showed in the game, and then just show the new parts that get uncovered. They don't even need any of the previous actors, as evidenced. I doubt they'll turn the game into a film version, but if they really wanted a respectable sequel/prequel they would.

It's just been too long, personally. And without Crichton to give even any more ideas for another story, it just leaves me wanting them to just leave it all alone. I guess I was with Kathleen Kennedy's original statement after Crichton's death happened this time, when they initially said it was probably best not to even continue it anymore. I'm sure Crichton's death, and Stan Winston's, delayed the project at least a couple years longer than it originally would have been.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I'd love them to remake it.

[Richard Penna 3,679]

Already mentioned - I'd be in support of a TV adaptation that follows the book really closely. In fact that's how I think most book adaptations should be handled, because you read them in sittings (or I do anyway) and put the book down or go to sleep when you reach the end of a chapter.

And the whole 'starting a new trilogy' thing... not a fan. I could welcome a fourth movie if they do it well, i.e. some intelligence, and action sequences in which you care more about the characters (JP3 was fun, but I couldn't give a shit about the Kirbys).

I'd be happy with the score being done by anyone who's not in RCP, given that the chances of getting Williams to return to this franchise... not gonna happen.

[Brónach 1,302]

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.

[Thor 7,490]

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.

You could, of course (and I'd be interested in that), but it's less the dinosaurs and more the fictional universe already established that interests me -- the locales, the characters, the plotlines.

[Muad'Dib 1,801]

Well, there's a bunch of dinosaur movies coming in the next two years. BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary, and Pixar's making a dinosaur film, too. I remember there were a couple more but I can't seem to recall them right now.

I know I'm the minority here, but I always have been interested in seeing how the park itself was made in the series. A prequel of sorts, but for some reason most JP fans want to see the series moving forward, but if you think about it, apart from Biosyn and stuff like that, there isn't much left to tell. But regarding the park origins, there's lot of potential right there.

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary

damn why cant they do this with the ILM/Stan Winston dinosarus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brónach 1,302]

Because they are ILM/Stan Winston dinosaurs. Because they belonged in a famous fantasy film. If you don't change them people are going to complain. If you change them they aren't the same dinosaurs anymore.

I hope the WwD thing people keep talking about is seriously updated. A lot has happened in these years, and some models were already defective.

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

I mean.... why can't Amblin make a dinosaur doccumentary using the dinosaurs from the films...

they could even change the looks a little (i mean feathers and the like-the facial desings should be kept even if they are a little innacurate), to adapt to new theories...

[Thor 7,490]

Well, there's a bunch of dinosaur movies coming in the next two years. BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is coming to the big screen with a new documentary, and Pixar's making a dinosaur film, too. I remember there were a couple more but I can't seem to recall them right now.

I know I'm the minority here, but I always have been interested in seeing how the park itself was made in the series. A prequel of sorts, but for some reason most JP fans want to see the series moving forward, but if you think about it, apart from Biosyn and stuff like that, there isn't much left to tell. But regarding the park origins, there's lot of potential right there.

There is, and they explore a little bit of it (at least in expository dialogue) in the wonderful JURASSIC PARK: THE GAME which came out recently.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

i thought the game received some pretty awful reviews

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

as a game by nowadays standards it fails but as an interactive movie the story is interesting and cool.

[Thor 7,490]

As someone who absolutely HATES shootemups and more typical 3D environment action games, I could actually get on board with this one. Sure, it was tricky to press the right keys at the right moments in some cases (I was probably eaten by dinosaurs about a 100 times during the game), but the story and atmosphere was so addictive that it played out like a wonderful interactive movie. Even worked for a hardcore, old-school point-and-click adventure gamer like myself.

After 10 years of no JP, I was completely STARVED, so it filled a long desire to explore that world further, the JP junkie that I am. I played it through over two nights.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

Is it like any of the other Tell Tale games? PC Gamer ripped it apart, and they are usually big fans of Tell Tale's work.

[Thor 7,490]

Is it like any of the other Tell Tale games? PC Gamer ripped it apart, and they are usually big fans of Tell Tale's work.

No, it's not really like any of the other Telltale games I've played (BACK TO THE FUTURE and MONKEY ISLANDs). There is a small element of point-and-click in it, there are some puzzles that require a bit of brain capacity rather than timing and co-ordination and you can choose to have long dialogues in some scenes (which I do!), but it's really a pure action game with adventure elements. You die in it!

I haven't played the SAM & MAX games yet, but I aim to. First I need to play the old SAM & MAX HIT THE ROAD again, as a warm-up (I'm already half-way).

I can understand it doesn't go over well with contmporary gamers and critics, who prefer more free-form movement and more shooting and stuff, but it's a great compromise for old-school adventure gamers like myself. And the story is fantastic. You're right back in the JP universe from the get-go. It gets top grades from me (except a couple of insanely difficult situations, especially Tricoterops Trouble).

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

i would have prefered more freedom in the 'point and click' parts mixed with the 'button hitting'-action scenes.

It would have been neat that way.

[Jeff 10]

Spielberg made a comment to a website that JP4 is still "on the schedule," after Lincoln. It's not a definitive confirmation, but at least it hasn't been ruled out yet:

http://www.comingsoo...4#ixzz1gI4oCNVD

[Once 605]

http://collider.com/...terview/137598/

I don’t want to talk about Jurassic Park 4 yet – it’s too early – but I can tell you that I’m not directing it. I’m producing it though.

[Faleel 5,345]

No Williams then (did we really think he would score it anyway).

[Richard Penna 3,679]

I'm glad Spielberg isn't directing if that's his enthusiasm. We've seen what happens when he has to direct something his heart isn't in.

[indy4 155]

Yup, I doubt we'd get a very inspired film or score.

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

um indy iv was rathe inspired.

williams delivered even if spielberg didnt.

[Richard Penna 3,679]

Neither did to my expectations.

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

im sorry for you...

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Told you guys so.

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

what, that williams was not scoring JIV?

I think we already knew that....

[indy4 155]

um indy iv was rathe inspired.

williams delivered even if spielberg didnt.

Yes, but I feel like there's more ground on an Indy film. For JP there's always some mistake that results in an action/adventure movie where people get eaten by dinosaurs. I mean, how many times can you make a movie about that? You can do a lot more with Indy (and I feel that both Spielberg and Williams did so with KotCS).

[Charlie Brigden 7]

They should give this to Paul Verhoeven and Phil Tippett. And have Goldenthal score it.

[GoodMusician 56]

I think what you're all expecting is the same reason that the films don't work anymore and it's kinda humorous. You complain that it's "all been done" but at the same time you're painting the series into a box...which Universal then perceives as what Jurassic Park is, and they produce a film to fit in that box, and thus it's been done before and is bland... see this cycle? lol

What are some of the things that make JP so great? To me, it's how much science it encompasses.

Think about it... corporatism running genetic research? The implications there are endless...

The need for man to control nature. The absolute ego that epitomizes some of the cutting edge science today.. these are the juicy story points... mix these with captivating characters and you can weild a great story.

I wrote one that I'm still working on which draws a parallel between the "mishaps" and "mistakes" of jurassic park, and genetic tampering on say.. human DNA... other animal DNA... what have you. You could create another moral tale just like what JP was...

[Thor 7,490]

I don't really care whether Spielberg or Williams are involved.....all I want is to return to that universe! I would preferably have a good director, though, but with Spielberg as producer, I'm sure that will be taken care of.

There are absolutely ENDLESS possibilities in terms of narrative -- the recent JP game proved that -- but more importantly for me is to experience the same atmosphere.

JURASSIC PARK FOREVER!!

[Elmo Lewis 6]

I'm convinced you could make great films with dinosaurs without the need of making Jurassic Park 4, remaking the first film or adapting the novel again.

There's an interesting concept. If Spielberg/Universal or what have you wanted to do things that way and come up with a fresh idea, how much do you think they would have to re-design the dinosaurs? How much can you change those creatures (and the way they move, sound...) that are what they are anyway? Also, if we accept Jurassic Park as the pinnacle of dinosaur design, would the new look go against the new movie's detriment? Or would the audience accept the same dinosaurs in a different franchise?