Popular Post Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted April 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2015 "JWFan Thread of the Year.... [an] outstanding and most enjoyable work." - Scarpia "This is awesome." - Score_Fan "Fascinating to watch" - Valentinice "Really cool!" - Jay "This is incredible." - FilmManiac79 "Great stuff" - artguy360 "Really nice topic!" - SzPeti42 I thought I would do these as well:STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE (Features Mockups by Datameister)Gas LeakDroid FightThe Droid InvasionIntroducing Jar Jar Darth Sidious / Tentacles Take 1Darth Sidious / Tentacles Take 2Theed Palace Arrival You're Under ArrestEscape from Naboo (Percussive Alternate Take)Arrival at Tatooine (Restored) Roll of the Die The Flag Parade (Alternate Take)The Podrace Anakin's Test (Original)Original Battle of Naboo Sequence Edit (Special Thanks to GoodMusician for his old Symphonic Forces videos): The Armies Face OffRandy's Forest MistThe Battle Begins Lazer Fight March Take To Your Ships (Restored) Take To Your Ships (Early Take) The Big Army (Restored) 6M4 The Big Army (Redone)6M4A The Fight Begins (Option 1)Option 2Option 3The Droid Battle (Restored)The Droid Battle (Redone)Up The Wire (Restored, Take 1)Up The Wire (Restored, Take 2)Up the Wire (Redone)The Great Duel Part 1 (Restored) The Great Duel Part 2 - Crash Landing (Restored)The Great Duel (Redone)The Great Duel Option 2Qui-Gon's Noble End (Album Version)Qui-Gon's Noble End (Redone)Battleship Destroyed (Alternate Take)Blowups and the Death of Darth Maul6M11 NEW End of MaulAfter the VictoryAfter the Victory (Option 2)Augie's Municipal Band - End Credits (Alternate 1) End Credits (Alternate 2)ATTACK OF THE CLONESFinding KaminoThe Meadow SceneThe Dinner SceneThe Spare Canister CaperThe Arrival at TatooineLove PledgeEntrance of the MonstersDooku Vs. Obi-WanYoda Strikes BackFinale (Original)REVENGE OF THE SITHAs Written version of Boys Into Battle opening percussion rhythm Boys Into Battle (Revised Percussion) Get Em' R2! The Elevator SceneGrievous and the DroidsCouncil MeetingGoodbye Old Friend (Alternate)Goodbye Old Friend (Option 2)Palpatine's Seduction I Am The SenatePalpatine Instructs AnakinMoving Things Along A Home for the Twins (Original)STAR WARS (or STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE)Jawa Sandcrawler/The Little People Work (Restored Opening)Binary Sunset (Alternate) Landspeeder Search (Restored Opening DELETED SCENE)Destruction of Alderaan (Restored) Dianoga (Restored)The Trash Compactor (Restored)STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Features Mockups by Me) The Imperial Probe (Original, Restored)The Imperial Probe (Insert Bar 80, Restored)The Imperial Probe (Insert Bar 109, Restored)Luke's Escape (Restored)Ben's Instruction (Restored)Luke's Rescue (Restored, CONTAINS CUT FOOTAGE)The Probe Scanner (Restored)The Snow Battle (Restored) Yoda's Entrance (Restored) This Is Not A Cave (Restored) Training A Jedi (Restored) The Magic Tree (Restored, OOT only) Vader's Command (Restored) City In the Clouds Part 1 (Restored) City In the Clouds Part 2 (Restored) Trouble In Prison (Restored)Carbon Freeze (Original, Restored)Luke Pursues the Captives (Restored) Chewie Chokes Lando (Restored)STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDIVadar Contacts Luke (With Insert)The Iron Door/To Jabba's ThroneJabba's PrisonersThe Big Thaw (Original Version)A Strange VisitorFight in the Dungeon (With Deleted Footage)Sail Barge Assault (Alternate) - Manikin SkywalkerThe Sarlacc Pit/Jabba's End (Original Version)The Sarlacc Pit/Jabba's End (Film Version)The Emperor (Original Version)Yoda's Scene (Restored Opening)Luke and BenEnter the Ewok - More Trouble (Original Version) Using the Force (Original Edit)Through the Flames - Manikin Skywalker wowbobwow, Sam s., mxsch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I thought I would do these as well:STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACEThe PodraceSTAR WARS (or STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE)Binary Sunset Alternate Hmm, that doesn't work at all. Very ominous on aunt beru and uncle owen? Plus misses with sync points. Great music but very wrong approach to the scene...heavy handed and doesn't fit the drama. Lucas was right to request different music here and I'm glad we have the original idea on record. Are you sure about the timings of these? big triumphant music over dialog and quite suspense after on the pod race? LongTimeJWFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 I thought I would do these as well:STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACEThe PodraceSTAR WARS (or STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE)Binary Sunset Alternate Hmm, that doesn't work at all. Very ominous on aunt beru and uncle owen? Plus misses with sync points. Are you sure about the timings of these? big triumphant music over dialog and quite suspense after on the pod race?#1 I started the cue around where it starts in the film, and tried to sync the English Horn bit with the cut to Beru, and synced the shot of the suns with the music change, the timpani with the cut to Luke (though a bit delayed), and the dissonant ending with the fade to the next morning.#2 I synced the beginning of the first cue with the Lap indicator light, and the multiple cuts there, I originally started it a bit later, The second cue I also moved back a hair, the third cue is synced like in a video on SW.com.Of course these are not entirely accurate, but I believe they are pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 1,043 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I personally think the album for TPM had that segue between Jabba Introduction and Race Begins right. Those brass hits would underscore the revving of the engines as the race countdown begins, and the violins would kick in as Anakin's engines stall. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 Jawa Sandcrawler/The Little People Work (Restored Opening)Destruction of Alderaan (Restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I thought I would do these as well:STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACEThe PodraceSTAR WARS (or STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE)Binary Sunset Alternate Hmm, that doesn't work at all. Very ominous on aunt beru and uncle owen? Plus misses with sync points. Are you sure about the timings of these? big triumphant music over dialog and quite suspense after on the pod race?#1 I started the cue around where it starts in the film, and tried to sync the English Horn bit with the cut to Beru, and synced the shot of the suns with the music change, the timpani with the cut to Luke (though a bit delayed), and the dissonant ending with the fade to the next morning.#2 I synced the beginning of the first cue with the Lap indicator light, and the multiple cuts there, I originally started it a bit later, The second cue I also moved back a hair, the third cue is synced like in a video on SW.com.Of course these are not entirely accurate, but I believe they are pretty close.I didn't mean it as a criticism - just an observation. Frankly, I think it is very interesting to see missteps on the path towards a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I personally think the album for TPM had that segue between Jabba Introduction and Race Begins right. Those brass hits would underscore the revving of the engines as the race countdown begins, and the violins would kick in as Anakin's engines stall.I tried syncing it to the film, doesn't work. I think they are in fact two separate cues. I don't think Faleel started it quite right though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Landspeeder Search (Restored Opening DELETED SCENE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,305 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Jawa Sandcrawler/The Little People Work (Restored Opening)Wow! That was really cool! Everything lines up so perfectly! Williams matches a lot of the on-screen action, like the Jawas popping up, etc... odd he didn't do anything for when R2 gets zapped!Landspeeder Search (Restored Opening DELETED SCENE)Also very cool!BTW, your Alderaan video isn't in the main post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 That's just so crazy in how inventive it is. really amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Jawa Sandcrawler/The Little People Work (Restored Opening)Wow! That was really cool! Everything lines up so perfectly! Williams matches a lot of the on-screen action, like the Jawas popping up, etc... odd he didn't do anything for when R2 gets zapped!I guess JW either felt that the sound of the Jawa jumping out was enough, or just thought the editors could figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Dianoga (Restored)The Trash Compactor (Restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Interesting, although I can see why they dropped the music for "Dianoga", it played better with out the music. Although "The Walls Converge" (aka Trash Compactor) they should have left alone. Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Interesting, although I can see why they dropped the music for "Dianoga", it played better with out the music.While true, I love how he scored the moments with the little eyeball popping up and Luke falling back into the "water". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Do you plan to restore the music in anything in ROTJ? I'd like to see/hear some of those, such as the original of the Rancor scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 I hope to do all the films, if I have the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 The Imperial Probe (Original, Restored)The Imperial Probe (Insert Bar 80, Restored)The Imperial Probe (Insert Bar 109, Restored) Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Luke's Escape (Restored)Ben's Instruction (Restored)Luke's Rescue (Restored, CONTAINS CUT FOOTAGE)The Probe Scanner (Restored)The Snow Battle (Restored) Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yoda's Entrance (Restored)This Is Not A Cave (Restored)Training A Jedi (Restored)The Magic Tree (Restored, OOT only)Vader's Command (Restored)City In the Clouds Part 1 (Restored)City In the Clouds Part 2 (Restored) Incanus and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Trouble In Prison (Restored)Carbon Freeze (Original, Restored)Luke Pursues the Captives (Restored)Chewie Chokes Lando (Restored) Cerebral Cortex and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmManiac79 6 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 This is incredible. I've heard a few of the "Empire" tracks before, but none from the other films. Thanks for doing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Droid Fight (Restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 That's really cool - makes the scene feel much more exciting. It doesn't quite line up though, I wonder if there was a late cut to the scene or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 603 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Hmm, lines up almost perfectly in my opinion. Probably my favorite TPM cue, by the way! Brings back memories of countless hours of playing the ROTS video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,305 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Hmmm I dunno, do you think Williams would have written such busy action music for the scene of two aliens talking from 0:17-0:30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,015 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 i think the same...too much action music for the two neimodians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Hmmm I dunno, do you think Williams would have written such busy action music for the scene of two aliens talking from 0:17-0:30? Exactly, the music works great on a macro level but on a second by second basis it isn't quite right and I don't blame the composer...I think these are just examples where the action+tension music is a moment or two late/early towards the end and the amount of effort JW puts into hits makes it feel like the music doesn't match the visuals/drama like a glove. For example 0:34 Qui Gon drives his saber drives into the door it's completely ignored musically but the music at 0:38 seems more appropriate though doesn't quite fit that scene. So I mean at a very specific micro level, not overall globally. If this had been RC wallpaper scoring with drone + rhythm, it wouldn't have mattered much but here it doesn't quite match completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Maybe Williams wrote music for a different cut that included more action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 29 minutes ago, karelm said: For example 0:34 Qui Gon drives his saber drives into the door it's completely ignored musically but the music at 0:38 seems more appropriate though doesn't quite fit that scene. I tried to have it as it is in the film (my editor/laptop was not entirely co-operating however) I used this video of the scene for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbXyd-fK8Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,126 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Faleel said: I tried to have it as it is in the film (my editor/laptop was not entirely co-operating however) I used this video of the scene for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbXyd-fK8Q I didn't mean this as a dig. I think JW must have written it for a previous edit and after the sessions they kept editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Gas Leak (Restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 The Droid Invasion (Restored)Introducing Jar Jar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,941 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Great stuff, thanks for sharing. I love how closely JW scores his music to the action in so many of these deleted bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,015 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Im sure that in most cases when it doesnt match it is because the original scored cut was different. And also, without sfx, dialogue and volume adjustements it may sound more bombastic than it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,125 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Wow, that's a huge tonal difference to Jar Jar's introduction with the addition of music. And I've never heard that 5 second segment of music at 1:07 in The Droid Invasion. Very Hook to my ears (not surprising considering the scores were only written 7 years apart). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,305 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 12 hours ago, someonefun124 said: Maybe Williams wrote music for a different cut that included more action? That's what I think. 10 hours ago, Faleel said: The Droid Invasion (Restored) Awesome! Quote Introducing Jar Jar This is out of sync. The change in music at 0:51 is supposed to match the change in scenery at 0:50, like in the final cut of the film. So you gotta slow down some footage at any point before that point (or start the music a little earlier) to get it to sync up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SzPeti42 49 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Really nice topic! Thank you for your work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,305 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Darth Sidious / Tentacles Take 1Darth Sidious / Tentacles Take 2Theed Palace Arrival 5 hours ago, Jay said: The change in music at 0:51 is supposed to match the change in scenery at 0:50, like in the final cut of the film. Uh, that music was dialed out in the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,749 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I love the snare and muted (?) trumpet music that plays when Obi-Wan describes to Jar Jar how the battledroids will kill him. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I think Faleel should be awarded with JWFan Thread of the Year prize, for this outstanding and most enjoyable work. It's really a re-discovery, and the cues get a new dimension added when you listen to them along the picture. Thank you for your dedication! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 You're Under ArrestArrival at Tatooine (Restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Roll of the Die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 The Flag Parade (Alternate Take)High Council Meeting (Insert) Any comments on the High Council Meeting insert video? I just kinda guess where it would go based on the film cue. Anakin's Test (Original) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,071 Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 The Armies Face OffThe Battle Begins Lazer Fight March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,510 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I Am the Senate (Unused portion) Had to do some guess-work here. Also realized there is a lot of cut footage in this scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,305 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 18 hours ago, Faleel said: Uh, that music was dialed out in the film! No, the music enters at that scene transition. UNless its been changed for the blu ray! (Which I haven't seen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,015 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 16 hours ago, Faleel said: Arrival at Tatooine (Restored) Just noticed that the fanfare when the queen's ship lands on tatooine is similar to Kylo ren's theme when his shutte lands on jakku (i think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,663 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 10 hours ago, Manikin Skywalker said: I Am the Senate (Unused portion) Had to do some guess-work here. Also realized there is a lot of cut footage in this scene! I think that originally, Anakin didn't arrive after the battle, but watched the whole thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,015 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 voyeur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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