Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I know the CPO is not well looked upon but:http://www.propermusic.com/product-details/The-City-of-Prague-Philharmonic-Orchestra-The-Complete-Hobbit-and-Lord-Of-The-Rings-Film-Music-Collection-2CD-188392 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 They should be very well looked upon. They do great work, and have been for nearly a decade now! El Cid in 2008 really went a long way in changing public perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 I am actually kind of interested in their interpretation of I See Fire, it will probably still be crap, but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I wonder if the music chosen is exactly the same version as heard on the OSTs or might there be suites here? All track titles seem to indicate these are the former. And will the songs actually be sung or are they orchestral versions like CPPO has done in the past. Luke Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 I am hoping the songs will be instrumentals like in their LOTR recording, seeing how they are being packaged together. You can hear a track from the CPPO recording (quest for Erebor) on spotify: https://play.spotify.com/album/7IeceXekPf2sQUFqCBoMTd/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 My country has most of the Hobbit tracks locked I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 wish there were more Actiony cues on that soundtrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Because Battle of Pelennor Fields and Forth Eorlingas sound so good on their LotR album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yeah it is available in full here as well.Performances vary again from quite decent to simply passable.Misty Mountains is an orchestral version of the song, which is a nice variation on the melody.Song of the Lonely Mountain is a full orchestral interpretation of Finn's song where they have naturally stuck with Finn's stylings on the Plan 9 melody.I See Fire is still not good.The Last Goodbye sounds surprisingly nice in the purely orchestral guise. Which also makes the nods to Shore's hobbit music even clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005?The LotR part of the compilation I assume. Unless they channeled the Hobbit from the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005?The LotR part of the compilation I assume. Unless they channeled the Hobbit from the future.I was responding to GK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005?The LotR part of the compilation I assume. Unless they channeled the Hobbit from the future.I was responding to GKThose were not really that great interpretations. As it has been stated before CPPO is quite odd with their recordings. Their score reconstructions sound quite fine and energetic and precise but these compilations seem to be a way to earn a few extra bucks so they often sound somewhat shoddy. Perhaps it is the quick production schedule which leaves little time for rehearsals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 There is probably also a difference in crew which has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 There is probably also a difference in crew which has something to do with it.Well yes naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yeah it is available in full here as well.Performances vary again from quite decent to simply passable.Misty Mountains is an orchestral version of the song, which is a nice variation on the melody.Song of the Lonely Mountain is a full orchestral interpretation of Finn's song where they have naturally stuck with Finn's stylings on the Plan 9 melody.I See Fire is still not good.The Last Goodbye sounds surprisingly nice in the purely orchestral guise. Which also makes the nods to Shore's hobbit music even clearer.May I ask - where exactly is 'here'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Spotify Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Oh, he meant here as in his country. I thought he meant to post a link and forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005?The LotR part of the compilation I assume. Unless they channeled the Hobbit from the future.It's not impossible. After all we live in 2015 now Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 @ FaleelThis one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002ABTM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1429567614&sr=1-1&pi=SL75&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+nic+raineThe action music is horrible, just horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I See Fire is at least more listenable to me than Sheeran's attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Recorded in 2003-2005?The LotR part of the compilation I assume. Unless they channeled the Hobbit from the future.I was responding to GKThose were not really that great interpretations. As it has been stated before CPPO is quite odd with their recordings. Their score reconstructions sound quite fine and energetic and precise but these compilations seem to be a way to earn a few extra bucks so they often sound somewhat shoddy. Perhaps it is the quick production schedule which leaves little time for rehearsals?Also probably part of it is that the Tadlow people conform the score recording to the DVD of the score except for some exceptions.Listening to this now... I think the recording sounds better a little bit better than the OST in some ways.But you almost gotta wonder about this Nic Raine fellow's ability to transcribe, his attempt at the Warg theme at the end of Sons of Durin is pretty bad.That Clarinet reading of the Misty Mountain's theme in Song of the Lonely mountain is actually kind of beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Shore's music has had some awful transcriptions over the years...I'm guessing this is another one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 How can you fuck up the warg theme? The sheet music for Warg Scouts is actually available. Even if it's just a piano sheet, I would think a trained musician could do something with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My country has most of the Hobbit tracks locked I guess.As does mine. But you can hear 30 second clips here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Hobbit-Rings-Music-Collection/dp/B00VX75UCCDo any of these transcribers even bother trying to emulate the aleatory? They basically just try to cover it up with some obnoxious ostinati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 My country has most of the Hobbit tracks locked I guess.As does mine. But you can hear 30 second clips here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Hobbit-Rings-Music-Collection/dp/B00VX75UCCDo any of these transcribers even bother trying to emulate the aleatory? They basically just try to cover it up with some obnoxious ostinati.Hmm, didn't notice extra ostinati.It's funny that TheHutt from TheOneRing.net/Henneth Annun.ru is just now noticing that Doug is hinting at his Hobbit book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Jabba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I am listening to this whole thing on Spotify... now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Well that wasn't... completely terrible... but it's not any good either. The Hobbit stuff is maybe performed and arranged a little better than the LOTR cuts. They have a horrible selection of DOS material though - only 5 tracks, 2 of which are the Tauriel/Kili tracks (Why not just do Beyond The Forest inetead), and the others are Quest for Erebor and Protector of the Common Folk (and Sheeran's song). So you have no Smaug material at all, no Nine stuff, no Mirkwood stuff, no action stuff, no Dol Guldur stuff... its a pathetic attempt at representing what that score has to offer. The LOTR cuts at least summarize what those scores are all about better. The instrumental versions of the end credits songs are I guess the most interesting parts. Sheeran's song becomes almost a whole new thing. Oddly the BOFA song sounds even more Shore-esque than the original. But really, there's not much to like about this 2 CD set at all. The performances range from acceptable to pretty abysmal. There's some goofy things like odd choir in Twilight and Shadow, and there's a track called "Return of the King" that goes from the track of the same name from ROTK to a weird medley of end credits music from ROTK and FOTR and some other stuff that was already on the disc, so its a repetitive annoying mess. A shame because somebody could make a sweet 2 disc summary of everything Shore accomplished with these scores, but this set doesn't come close. There's nothing here I recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 The LOTR stuff is actually a cut down repackage of a re-recording they did a while back: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ABTM6/ Yes, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, I know.You are repeating yourself. (For those wondering what happened: I posted what I said about the LOTR set, then I went and found the amazon link, and posted it, intending for it to merge with the aforementioned post, however, Jay posted that he knew about the set, and so I edited the post to what it says now, but not before Jay had read and responded to it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I never listened to any of the CPPO LOTR re-recordings until today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 To me, The Hobbit recordings seem better recorded and performed than the LOTR ones, not perfectly, or even greatly, but better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, I thought so to (and just said as much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Haven't heard the Hobbit stuff, but the COP LOTR rerecording has some excellent tracks.The Leblanc must be insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Which tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The FOTR cues sound a bit iffy, though I love the clarity of the choir on Khazad Dum. But TTT and ROTK sound great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 What a weird selection for the Hobbit music - it has none of the Smaug or Goblintown material, and picked some of the weakest tracks from DOS. "Gollum's Song" and the first half of "Hope and Memory/Minas Tirith" (that key shift in the Gondor theme section is cringe-worthy) sound great, but the rest of the LOTR performances are pretty lackluster, and already available on their previous release. Color me unimpressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yea, it was a waste of time. Only thing worth checking out are their interpretations of the end credits as instrumentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yea, it was a waste of time. Only thing worth checking out are their interpretations of the end credits as instrumentals.I absolutely love their "Gollum's Song" interpretation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yea, it was a waste of time. Only thing worth checking out are their interpretations of the end credits as instrumentals.Idiot!But I guess you aren't a fan of rerecordings in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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