#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Popcorm makes me fart within half an hour after I start eating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think everything makes me fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The Center Framing of Mad Max 4http://vashivisuals.com/the-editing-of-mad-max-fury-road/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The technique certainly worked, because even though its a very tightly cut film, i never had the feeling I couldn't follow what was going on on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 That's one of the biggest strenghts of the movie: even with all the chaos going on onscreen, it never feels like a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Some random ruminations based on 4 viewingsWhen Angharad The Splendid (the pregnant wive) slips from the rig and gets run over by Joe's verehicle, I actually noticed that she was using her injured leg, the one Max grazed accidentally, and that the wound was actually bleeding quite a bit. So she probably slipped because her leg was weak or because of the blood. So Max caused her death.Clever bit of trickery. After Angharad dies and the rig stops one of the wives (Cheedo he Fragile) wants to go back to Joe in a moment of weakness.Much later in the film it really isnt that much of a surprise when she tries again and asks Rictus erectus to take her of the rig and into Joe's car.But turns out she's actually doing this to help Furiosa, who's trying to get to Joe.Nice little trick to play with the audience expectationsMost of the characters have names, but many of them are only partially used. Spend a minute on IMDB and have a chuckle. Toast The Knowing, The Dag, The Doof Warrior, The Valkyrie, The Keeper Of Seeds etc etc.The woman playing the red headed wife (Capable) is a grandchild of Elvis Presley.The flashback/hallucinations that Max has throughout the film. One would expect them to be preludes to something that never happens.The film has 3 main characters essentially, Max Furiosa and Nux. Both Nux and Furiosa have something of a arc that revolves in a particular scene. For Furiosa it's the one where she realizes The Green Place is gone, and with Nux it's in the very end of the film when he realizes he can finally sacrifice himself.I expected Max's hallucinations to lead the film to a moment like that. The natural point seems to be right after the scene at night "Hope is a mistake, if you cant fix what's wrong. You will go crazy"The very next scene is a shot of the women (and Nux) riding off onto the salt.He has one small hallucination of the little girl (his daughter?) begging him to come, and then completely changes his mind about making his own way. It feels a bit thin.The actual scene where Max convinces Furiosa and the rest that they should return to The Citadel is excellent btw, Hardy really comes into his own here.Speaking of hallucinations. Several times in the film there's a recurring one where the little girl lunges at Max, and out of relex he shields his face with his han.This actually saves his life when one of Joe's men lunges and him and shoots an arrow through his hand. Nice touch!Furiosa askes Max for his name but does give her own. At no point in the film does she use it, or is referred to it by any of the wives (only The Valkyrie uses it in her presence. "It's our Furiosa")The film only has two fightscenes that do not take place during a high speed chase. The first one between Max and a few dozen Warboys in the Citadel, the second one right after the storm when Max tries to take the rig.That is a really good fight scene! Max, tied up to Nux against a Furiosa without her metal arm. I like the way Max and Nux temporarily band together and the way it's shot and edited is really excellent.Alliances are formed quickly and with gut instinct and out of necessity.Max allows Furiosa and the wives back onto the rig because he cant drive it. An uneasy truce forms where Max constantly keeps Furiosa or one of the wives at gunshot. Furiosa keep[s a blade hidden in the gearstick.Not until Furiosa's deal fails and they have to get out of there do they actually start to work together. Because there are far larger threats out there.The film get the relationship between Max and Furiosa just right. Thankfully nothing that hints of a possible romance or anything like that, but there is something of a connection there.At one point Furiosa tells Max that she is looking for redemption. The film doesnt give a lot of background info about her, and it isnt explained what redemption means for her.But its interesting to speculate.She was kidnapped by Joe's people over 7000 days ago, which is roughly 20 years. And has worked her way up te be one of his most trusted Imperators. Yet unlike Nux she never became a true believer and must have therefore done things against her own moral code, but too survive and keep hatching her plan, wait for an opportunity.In the film she actually (indirectly) kills many Warboys with her actions, this must have been her intention all along since she could have never made it to the pass with her escortThe only reason she didnt kill Nux was because the Wives stopped her "(we agreed, no unnecessary killing")Like Furiosa none of the wives, nor any woman in the film is shown to be a true believer of Max. (the mothers milk women at the end are the ones who release the water)Joe seens to have at least 2 sons already. A huge, but rather dimwitted guy Called Rictus Erectus and a smarter deformed dwarf. This kinda remind me of Master and Blaster from Thunderdome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I was too busy in the past two weeks but might watch it for the second time this week.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 http://gizmodo.com/these-before-and-after-comparisons-make-me-love-fury-ro-1708036346?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflowInteresting before and after pictures show that Mad Max certainly is NOT an anti-CGI film, but one where CGI has been used very very well.I love the fact that they actually did shot the sandstorm chase with the real verhicles, and just added in the storm later. Rather then going full CGI.Also the landscape enhancements look superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I much prefer the original shots before all the color grading. Didn't realize how much CGI was used in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thats the mark of great CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 It is, but looking at those comparison shots, I can't really say that it was all necessary. Miller had filmed a sequel in the classic Mad Max look, and then had it turned into 300 in post-production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thats the mark of great CGI.Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 It is, but looking at those comparison shots, I can't really say that it was all necessary. Miller had filmed a sequel in the classic Mad Max look, and then had it turned into 300 in post-production How do you mean?The script dictated a large canyon and a mountain pass, so they made one. The script dictated a sandstorm so they made one.Thats the mark of great CGI.Yup!I probably helps that the film had almost a 2 year post production schedule, so they really had time to work on the CGI.Compare that to a film like DoS which has far FAR more CGI and only a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The script doesn't really dictate anything, especially since Miller wrote it after storyboarding the film. I'm talking about shots like these, where the added verticality and rock formations seem utterly unnecessary to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 No, the script dictated an large impassable rock formation with a mountain pass that can be closed off, to escape pursueers. The film actually deals with that twice. Its a plot requirement!I'm guessing no terrain was found in Namibia that was suitably (since it is more a desert habitat then a mountainous one) so they used CGI for the background.You are nitpicking, probably for the sake of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 No, I just vastly prefer the look of the original footage versus the graded and altered final one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 You do realize all moves are color graded and have been since the early days of (color) cinema?No one ever complained about color grading till it became a "thing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I know film is color graded. My point still stands. They intentionally went for a graphic novel look, I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Really? i think it looks rather gorgeous. Better then the drab, washed out look you tend to get in the post apocalyptic genre. (Terminator 4 for example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just comes down to preferences, I guess. I understand he wanted to go in a different direction, but those original shots look and feel like The Road Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Hasn't he done that for 3 movies though?I like that's he's revamped this franchise in a bold visual way. The graphic novel look is one of its many assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The first Mad Max actually had rather a different look. Being shot close to Melbourne rather then the outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 They intentionally went for a graphic novel look, I don't like it.There's no "graphic novel look".My preferences on these vary depending of the shot. I think the colorists did a nice job, all things taken into account. The CGI landscape is something I didn't even notice in these.Besides, these movies are nor supposed to be coherent with each othes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I agree. It's a vibrant, colorful looking film. But its no 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Well, I mean, looking like 300, it doesn't. 300 looks purposely fake in backgrounds and instagram-filtered. Miller, on the other hand, is trying to trick the eye into believing crazy shit. Although the films still knows it's a movie, though, with those night scenes shot during the day and the over the top stuff.I don't know. Miller says somewhere that the postapocaliptic look is now associated with heavy desaturation, and that he imagined it black and white or in vibrant exagerated colour. I felt the colours made the postapocalipse more scary, somehow.The one ungraded shot I like is the first one Koray posted. It looks cool by itself, even if that shot is supposed to be in a closed canyon of sorts. The sandstorm shots are obviously supposed to take place in less light than without the storm.The one with the elevating platform is weird: couldn't they have more extras? They deleted two people on the platform? They added to hanging things that could have been real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 You will be surprised how few white people there are in the deserts of Namibia. ?That that could have also been part if the stuff they shot in Australia.http://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung-correspondents/mad-max-day-of-wrathArticle about the use of Verdi in Fury Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 A friend of mine pointed out that the prologue exists to explain to audience members who had seen the old movies why this one doesn't feature Max driving around in his iconic black car. Makes sense to me, I hadn't thought of it that way.I was viewing it all from a standalone movie unconnected to anything else. You can see why, when thinking of it that way, both the prologue and the flashbacks can be seen as unnecessary bloat. Especially since - when seen as a standalone movie - Max is really a supporting character in Furiosa's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 True. Max was already established as a lone wanderer in the last 2 films. If they had started the film with him in a cage, serving as a bloodbag then people who had seen the old films would have wondered how he got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Who cares? He's not the same Max as Mel's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think the main difference with Road Warrior and Thunderdome is that in those films we follow the events mostly from Max's perspective. While in Fury Road he's not actually involved in it for the first part, and after that he's part of an ensemble, rather then a lead.Somewhat similar as how the character was treated in the first film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Another really impressive aspect of the film was how they handled Furiosa's missing arm. Never looked fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Who cares? He's not the same Max as Mel's!No, but if you make a Bond film you tend to start the film with the character doing something James Bond like, regardless who is playing him.Much the same here.Another really impressive aspect of the film was how they handled Furiosa's missing arm. Never looked fakeAs far as I'm concerned Theron had her arm chopped for the film!Such a commited actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The Feral kid used to be a cop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I mentioned in another thread that Tom Holkenborg has been posting some fantastic videos on Youtube about his studio/process and whatnot. Here's one where he takes you through the creation of Furiosa's theme. Very neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Charlize Theron And Tom Hardy’s “Mad Max” Stunt Doubles Fell In Love And Got Married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Awwww.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Movie magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 See ‘Mad Max’ Anime Designs by Mahiro Maeda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 ‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Blu-Ray Includes Black & White, ‘Silent’ Cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 "Accompanied only by the score" basically means an iso score version right?Its the complete opposite of the Gravity Blu-ray which has the film without score. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 So... LeBlanc has been hit by Cremeritis too... How the mighty have fallen!‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Blu-ray to Include Black & White Cut; The ‘Best Version’Also included will be an isolated score version.And the funny thing is, he even replied to my post!Black and white? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Coming September 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Looks glorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Such a long wait!I was hoping to pick this up in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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