Incanus 5,714 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Sorry. I was just adapting your joke to the new page.How much would you say it was genuine adaptation/writing and how much did you just adjust TPG's original sketch? I hear his sketches are pretty complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Bullshit! I sketch like Shore. Totally complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I want to hear Stefan's opinion on the matter! It ain't over until he'll declare the debate finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 my opinion on what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Of how much BB adapted TPG's original joke and whether or not it was just a small adaptation or did BB write something himself to make suitable changes for the new page in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Why the fuck should I care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 If one day someone works on the wiki bio of TGP, please think of a section called "Jokes adapted by others". Once and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 What TGP doesn't want you to know is that he actually used a team of two dozen "orchestrators" to adapt and finish his joke for him. I've heard he actually only composed on a joke suite consisting of the thematic material of the joke and it was his lakeys who did all the real work. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Stellar. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What TGP doesn't want you to know is that he actually used a team of two dozen "orchestrators" to adapt and finish his joke for him. I've heard he actually only composed on a joke suite consisting of the thematic material of the joke and it was his lakeys who did all the real work. You know I just didn't want to repeat the same old thing that everybody does, you know? Like we're all forever trying to be original, and here it seems like everyone hears what I'm doing and says, "Oh, that's it!" you know? And then that becomes the leading joke aesthetic for the next ten years. So I said, ok Mike, just throw away all of your old tricks and start with a blank slate. And it'll get imitated endlessly, but at least for this first moment it'll be fresh and new, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Jason Ward @MakingStarWars 4h4 hours agoI'm hearing very cool things about the recording sessions for The Force Awakens. It sounds like it is going to have a lot of "features."https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars/status/608416435023552512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Features... sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Will we finally hear a Yo Yo Ma rendition of the Force theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 We will finally hear a first love theme? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Now, I haven't been disappointed about any SW7 score news until this point (I don't even care about Ross conducting). But the presence of "some of the attack music from the OT" is a bit of a let down. I want certain themes from the OT to reappear as needed, but recycling "attack music" (a la ROTJ?) is kind of a let down for me. Action music is something I want to be fresh and new to fit the new action situations. If this rumor (and it is nothing more as far as evidence goes) is true, I really hope it's not *another* rehash of the TIE Fighter Attack cue used for the scenes we've seen in the two trailers of the Falcon being pursued by TIE fighters through a crashed ship (again, a la ROTJ).If it's any consolation, the news is probably fake.There's another report that conflicts with this (the extent of Ross conducting, that is), so who knows what is true, even about the music. If true, better a rehash of OT music than DOTF, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yes, because Han Solo And The Princess and Across The Stars don't count, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Now, I haven't been disappointed about any SW7 score news until this point (I don't even care about Ross conducting). But the presence of "some of the attack music from the OT" is a bit of a let down. I want certain themes from the OT to reappear as needed, but recycling "attack music" (a la ROTJ?) is kind of a let down for me. Action music is something I want to be fresh and new to fit the new action situations. If this rumor (and it is nothing more as far as evidence goes) is true, I really hope it's not *another* rehash of the TIE Fighter Attack cue used for the scenes we've seen in the two trailers of the Falcon being pursued by TIE fighters through a crashed ship (again, a la ROTJ).If it's any consolation, the news is probably fake.You can tell it from the Ross-sectionsshhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted June 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2015 We will finally hear a first love theme?I'm just glad they could get William Ross in to write a proper one. crumbs, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Schiffy" from the FSM Boards wrote this today about Ross' apparent involvement:I saw that article, too. But from my understanding (only one step removed from somebody who was there), it's not true (or at least wasn't for the first several days). Granted, the article doesn't claim that Williams hasn't conducted at all, so technically, my source and theirs may be accurate. Don't get me wrong, Ross would be very capable, and with Williams in the room, I have absolutely no fear about this. But I'm skeptical, certainly about their use of the term "majority."http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=96000&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=8&r=539#bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Whew, I was starting to worry there was consensus. Complete confusion and contradiction keeps the train moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 My understanding is that Williams is conducting just about everything, but Ross stepped in for some fast paced action cues while Williams back was giving him some issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Whew, I was starting to worry there was consensus. Complete confusion and contradiction keeps the train moving.As it always does. I tend to believe Schiffy more than the other random source, but we still don't know for sure.He also said Williams composed and assembled the music for the second teaser... in case there are still doubters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 We shouldn't even assume it's back problems causing him not to conduct certain cues, actually. It's possible he prefers to be present in the booth (the Giacchino way, in fact) for this project. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 We shouldn't even assume it's back problems causing him not to conduct certain cues, actually. It's possible he prefers to be present in the booth (the Giacchino way, in fact) for this project.Well it is the way many composers choose (or are forced) to do it, to be just in the booth.But the more JW is on the podium, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 mstrox and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Maybe Ross was brought in to give Williams a back massage.But was it supervised by Williams or did he let Ross have free reign over the aspects of his performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It's possible he prefers to be present in the booth (the Giacchino way, in fact) for this project.Seems very un-Williams though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Maybe Ross was brought in to give Williams a back massage.But was it supervised by Williams or did he let Ross have free reign over the aspects of his performance?Williams gave him the moves, and Ross arranged them according to the parts of Williams' back that were hurting him.Makes sense. Seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,655 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Does anyone know if they have been recording this week or just last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Does anyone know if they have been recording this week or just last week?I'm curious as well. Also, when's the next round of sessions? And is Williams still writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Maybe Ross was brought in to give Williams a back massage.But was it supervised by Williams or did he let Ross have free reign over the aspects of his performance?Williams gave him the moves, and Ross arranged them according to the parts of Williams' back that were hurting him.Makes sense. Seems logical.I'd even say it's plausible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Features... sounds interesting.Will it have bells and whistles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "Featuring music by Thomas Newman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Let's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Cosman, I suppose it never occurred to you, that while we're chatting here so enjoyably, a decision is being made by the president and executives in the board room at Disney. And when they realize there is no possibility of a pure Williams score, there will be only one course of action open: total commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,655 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 To throw out a general question, wouldn't it be a wise marketing move to allow/encourage Williams to perform a concert version of a SW7 piece at Tanglewood? He did it with ESB and again with Harry Potter, though the main theme of the latter was already present in the trailers. It spoils nothing (assuming they keep titles vague), it is free, and the music, as it will be good, will provide positive exposure for the movie (as those concerts are always broadcast and personal recordings). Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 That would be a wonderful treat and a smart move on Disney's part, I think. Even those who aren't film score enthusiasts are stoked about Williams new Star Wars score. I just hope Williams doesn't end up canceling his Tanglewood concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Wow, hadn't even thought about that. That would be absolutely amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I just hope Williams doesn't end up canceling his Tanglewood concert.i'd be worried. He might not want to strain his back if the Recording Sessions aren;t finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 There would indeed be no harm in him premiering a piece of music from the score at a concert before the CD is out, but it simply won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,655 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 There would indeed be no harm in him premiering a piece of music from the score at a concert before the CD is out, but it simply won't happen.I don't think it will happen either but that does confuse me. It is free, positive marketing with no downside. All of that being said, I don't really understand the need for marketing the film at all. Give people no teasers and trailers and they will see this movie anyway. But given that they seem intent on a big marketing push, why not some music. In retrospect with Harry Potter, I wonder if Columbus et al saw the debut of the concert piece as an important marking push or just a way to humor Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 All of that being said, I don't really understand the need for marketing the film at all. Give people no teasers and trailers and they will see this movie anyway.That wouldn't annoy the marketing department at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 TFA actually hasn't gotten that much promotion really, but that will probably change when we get closer to the release date. In contrast, I can't help but see some sort of advertising for the Jurassic World a few times a day. They really want people to see that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I suspect we'll have a poster soon? I think we will have one with that upcoming convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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