Jay 37,346 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Wow, great interview!Looking forward to that score for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The approach to composition is very similar to Apocalypto, much of which was semi-improvised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 An 77 minute long Horner interview from a few weeks ago.http://guru.bafta.org/the-guru-18-a-conversation-with-screen-composer-james-horner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Nice to know that his favorite score of all time seemed to be The Mission by Ennio Morricone (or at least one of them).He loved Goldsmith's Alien and one of his favorite scores was Patton. Didn't know this before I listened (except that he loved the Alien score)! Also that he said that he holds Goldsmith and Williams as gods, nice to hear that he respected the titans that much.Apparently he never saw or was asked to do The Amazing Spider-Man 2.AWW... He said that he was going to do Gibson's next movie which was hugely important. "And I want to be there at that moment in film history because I think Hollywood is so shallow and what has been done to him is so dreadful and as a film maker he is so brilliant and it will only take one film... all he has to do is to make one film and he will be re-embraced". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Yeah, I was really looking forward to him working with Gibson again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Shit, I hadn't thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 He always spoke very kindly of Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 An 77 minute long Horner interview from a few weeks ago.http://guru.bafta.org/the-guru-18-a-conversation-with-screen-composer-james-hornerThanks for the link, karelm. I was in the audience for that and got the chance to meet him afterwards. I wondered beforehand whether it would be worth it but was so glad that I took the opportunity. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Oh man, the things we would've had in the future, if only he hadn't gotten in that damn plane. Gibson, Cameron, these guys brought out the best in him. And maybe he would've buried the hatchet as well with Howard, if they both had a mutually interesting project to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 An 77 minute long Horner interview from a few weeks ago.http://guru.bafta.org/the-guru-18-a-conversation-with-screen-composer-james-hornerOh sweet. Thank you.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 "James Horner is dead and we can't get Hans Zimmer onto a fucking helicopter." -- Denis Leary (kinda) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornerIsTheMan 4 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Not sure if this is self-plugging, but I did make a youtube compilation of Mr. Horner's work back in 2008.Part 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8njmEFNp80Part 2 Part 3 Part 4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1lAOe82mtAPart 5Pulled by YoutubePart 6 Part 7 Part 8 Part 9Pulled by YoutubeNice compilations! Can you post Parts 5 and 9 somewhere other than Youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Oh man, the things we would've had in the future, if only he hadn't gotten in that damn plane. Gibson, Cameron, these guys brought out the best in him. And maybe he would've buried the hatchet as well with Howard, if they both had a mutually interesting project to work on.Yes, it is sad. I agree with you...a big loss and it is hard to find solace. Perhaps it is his dreams of flight that made him such a great composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 And maybe he would've buried the hatchet as well with Howard, if they both had a mutually interesting project to work on.I wouldn't be surprised if Howard is probably feeling bad about this, and wishing Horner were around to give things another shot. He identified him as "friend" in his memorial Tweet; I get the feeling that after so many projects together, seeing someone—no matter whether or not you currently get along with them—die in such a tragic and untimely manner must really put things into perspective. As Horner said, life is too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bruckhorn 105 Posted June 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2015 I came to this forum on Monday night to read reactions to LaLaLand’s release of Searching for Bobby Fischer. Instead, I read the news of Horner’s demise. It sucks when your heroes die.I have had two epiphanies in my life. The first was back in the summer of ’85. (Thirty years ago, no that doesn’t make me feel old at all.) I was in a record store, glanced down to the ground, and saw “STAR TREK III” boldly printed in red. Being a good little Trekkie, I bent down and picked it up; it was the score on cassette. Not only was I a good little Trekkie, I was also a good little teenager with nothing but disposable income burning a hole in my pocket. So I bought it, not knowing what to expect. It is not hyperbole to write that it changed my life. The first time I heard it, I kept muttering, “an orchestra can do that?” Attendance of Concerts for Youths didn’t do it. Hell, I had seen the movie at least once a week when it was in the local theater because my sister worked there and I got in for free and it didn’t click in all those viewings. The timing was right, I guess.In 1987 I bought my first CD player because I saw that Star Trek III was listed in the lasted Schwann Opus catalogue (remember, this was pre-internet) as finally being issued on CD. It turned out that while it was announced, it was not actually released. After six weeks, I ended up buying Cocoon, Return of the Jedi, and a pop album as my first three CDs.It was custom in my high school band (marching in the Fall, concert in the Spring), that seniors got to conduct a piece of their choosing for the final concert of the year. It took two years of hounding Jan and the local sheet music store before she located “Highlights from Star Trek II.” I can remember rehearsing it, cutting the middle (“Kirk’s Explosive Reply”) section (bars 58-85), and the performances. That full score and the piano reduction of Star Trek III would help shape my views on harmony, meter, and orchestration when I started to compose. On July 03, 1990, I received a notice from 58 Dean Street Records in London that Star Trek III was finally available for purchase. Based on the volume of my reaction, the whole town probably knew how thrilled I was. The next day I called and ordered it. The reason I remember the day is that when I waiting for someone to answer the phone, I realized that it was the Fourth of July, and as quickly concluded that it was an American holiday, not British.I eventually received a degree in Music Composition. Never thought about composing for a living, it’s something I do to feed my soul. My best friend and I met because of film scores (we even met John Williams after a concert in ’90); most of our upcoming visit next month will probably be spent reminiscing about Horner scores. On a smaller note, my screenname is thanks to William Kraft. (The same Bill Kraft who conducted Carlito’s Way and Dead Again, among other credits.) He was giving a lecture and mentioned that composer should self-publish, but not name the publishing company after themselves. It allowed the composer to tell people who wanted a deal, “Sorry, you’re going to have to discuss that with my publisher.” and be able to “hide” behind the curtain of the company. That day I coined bruckhorn, combining Bruckner and Horner, the two biggest influences on my work.On Tuesday I gave my co-workers two earfuls of Horner: Searching for Bobby Fischer (later on Mon evening I checked the tracking and discovered it was sitting in my mailbox), Commando (in the same shipment), Gorky Park, A Far Off Place, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger (the CDs were in my car), Star Trek II, and, of course, Star Trek III. That evening, I stopped by my mother’s for dinner as I normally do on Tuesdays. And as is our custom, I brought dinner with me. She greeted me with “What, no black arm band? He was so young.” It has been thirty years since she started hearing his music blasting on my stereo. I put the food down, dropped my head, and wept. It sucks when your heroes die. HornerIsTheMan, Sir Hilary Bray, Dixon Hill and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Yes, it does suck when your hero dies. I have been on a Horner listening binge since the news broke early in the week. We will eventually come to find his place in music history alongside Kamen, Goldsmith, Poledouris, etc., but one can't help the feeling that we've been robbed by the randomness of the death. With Kamen, Goldsmith, Poledouris, they lived out their lives with the cards they've been dealt. But with Horner, here we have someone in a bit of a resurgence and a death that feels, well, unwarranted. Seeking to find meaning in this tragedy, I can only say that perhaps his passion for flight was part of the sound we came to love and the two can't be separated. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foundling 11 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The BAFTA interview has really hit it home, the discussion about his future projects. HornerIsTheMan and curlytoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niko85 1 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Not sure if this is self-plugging, but I did make a youtube compilation of Mr. Horner's work back in 2008.Part 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8njmEFNp80Part 2 Part 3 Part 4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1lAOe82mtAPart 5Pulled by YoutubePart 6 Part 7 Part 8 Part 9Pulled by YoutubeNice compilations! Can you post Parts 5 and 9 somewhere other than Youtube?I deleted them long ago. It's been 7 years since I made them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 An 77 minute long Horner interview from a few weeks ago.http://guru.bafta.org/the-guru-18-a-conversation-with-screen-composer-james-hornerI was actually surprised to hear him say he sat in on Williams' recording sessions. I didn't know that. I wonder how well Williams knew Horner, never heard him talk about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I remember an interview around the time of Hook where the interviewer asked Williams which young composers he liked, and among them he mentioned Thomas Newman, James Newton Howard and James Horner. HornerIsTheMan and curlytoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Williams also picked a scene from Braveheart for last year's seminary at the Academy (the one with Dudamel and Santaolalla) as an example of good marriage between film and music, so he surely admired the man and his music.I also remember an interview with Horner by the time he did the CBS News theme where he told a nice fun story: he called JW to tell him that he used all the good notes for the NBC News theme and he was struggling to find some as good for his own theme crocodile and HornerIsTheMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Really tough to hear him speak passionately about being there when Mel makes a comeback.I want to score whatever that film ends up being now. Gotta figure out who his agent is.... HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Just listened to the BAFTA interview. It's really good.Never knew he was a fan of Goldsmith's Alien.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 He was a huge goldsmith fan so it makes sense he loved such a landmark score as Alien too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Really tough to hear him speak passionately about being there when Mel makes a comeback.I want to score whatever that film ends up being now. Gotta figure out who his agent is....For me too. I just know whatever Gibson would've ended up directing, that Horner would've poured his heart and soul into it because of their friendship.Maybe, just maybe a second Braveheart. Just wishful thinking here. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Have to check out the BAFTA interview.Does anyone remember the reason why he didn't do Passion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Here is a brief tribute to James Horner from the London Symphony Orchestra website:http://lso.co.uk/more/news/452-a-tribute-to-james-hornerHe recorded sixteen of his scores with them, as well as a couple of soundtrack albums. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Have to check out the BAFTA interview.Does anyone remember the reason why he didn't do Passion?Apparently for religious reasons (as FSM once reported). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 And what reasons would that be?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 He's dead, Jim. We can't ask him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 It would have been really interesting because this is exactly the type of film that would benefit of his "scoring the subtext" approach.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I mistakenly ran into the STAR TREK thread here once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 You remember the leper colony from BEN HUR... fommes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 karelm and HornerIsTheMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornerIsTheMan 4 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Have to check out the BAFTA interview.Does anyone remember the reason why he didn't do Passion?Apparently for religious reasons (as FSM once reported).Well he was born into a Jewish family, but I've never found any more information on his religious beliefs. I suppose it would make sense if he would decline the film due to his Jewish heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 And the Romans were portrayed as saints in that movie too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niko85 1 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I wonder where hardcore film music fans would rank Horner. With all his pros and cons.I wonder put him in the top 20.01. Bernard Herrmann02. John Williams03. Ennio Morricone04. Jerry Goldsmith05. Max Steiner06. John Barry07. Elmer Bernstein08. Miklós Rózsa09. Georges Delerue10. Erich Wolfgang Korngold11. Nino Rota12. Alfred Newman13. Alex North14. Henry Mancini15. Maurice Jarre16. James Horner17. Franz Waxman18. Thomas Newman19. Dimitri Tiomkin20. Hans Zimmer21. Howard Shore22. Danny Elfman23. Basil Poledouris24. Alan Menken25. Vangelis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2015 In this tribute by his former school there's a nice pic of the artist as a young man: HornerIsTheMan, Dixon Hill, Taikomochi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Uni 306 Posted June 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2015 Polished off my next tribute video today. Wanted to get it done and posted by 9:30 PDT, but it wasn't to be. Oh, well.Of all the ones I've done so far, I'm most pleased with this one. I only used three pieces this time, but didn't have to edit the longest at all: "Preparations for Battle" sums up the story and mood for the entire picture so well it didn't need me to interfere. (It's also the piece I listened to at 9:30 this morning.) Hope it works for you as well. HornerIsTheMan, publicist, Omen II and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 A Composer Tribute to James HornerA Composer Tribute to James HornerTwenty-one film, television, video game composers deliver their heart-felt thoughts and reflections about the man, James Horner, and his music. Listen to their thoughts set to many of James Horner's most memorable scores.https://s3.amazonaws.com/tracksounds/soundcast/soundcast_bonus_james_horner_tribute.mp3Episode Highlights00:00 — Introduction01:00 — Austin Wintory02:34 — Debbie Wiseman03:51 — Greg Edmonson05:21 — Frederick Wiedmann07:12 — Jeff Rona08:51 — Introduction to special tribute09:23 — Jo Blankenburg10:41 — Grant Kirkhope12:07 — Mark Griskey15:36 — Jason Graves17:03 — Neal Acree07:57 — Garry Schymann20:02 — Sam Hulick20:45 — Introduction to special tribute II21:12 — Chance Thomas23:17 — Jessica Curry24:10 — Scott Glasgow27:10 — Rolfe Kent28:20 — Penka Kouneva30:30 — James Christopherson31:36 — Elia Cmiral32:13 — Olivier Deriviere33:54 — Kathryn Bostic36:08 — CloseMusic Selections00:00 — "Teaching Mathematics Again" (A Beautiful Mind) by James Horner00:54 — "Closing Credits" (A Beautiful Mind) by James Horner02:38 — "Epilogue" (Searching for Bobby Fischer) by James Horner04:51 — "An Epitaph to War" (Glory) by James Horner23:44 — "Part 2" (Iris) by James Horner07:25 — "The Lovemaking" (Cocoon) by James Horner09:23 — ""Wunderkind" by Jo Blankenburg10:30 — "Main Title" (Battle Beyond the Stars) by James Horner12:26 — "Deciding to Build the Field" (Field of Dreams) by James Horner13:33 — "All Systems Go" (Apollo 13) by James Horner16:02 — "The Ludlows" (Legends of the Fall) by James Horner18:48 — "Casper's Lullaby" (Casper) by James Horner19:52 — "A Kaleidoscope of Mathematics" (A Beautiful Mind) by James Horner20:48 — "Becoming One of the People…" (Avatar) by James Horner21:45 — "Suite from Avatar: The Video Game by Chance Thomas23:17 — "Main Title - Takeoff (The Rocketeer) by James Horner30:23 — "Rose" (Titanic) by James Horner29:05 — "My Heart Will Go On" (Titanic) by James Horner30:23 — "Main Title" (Braveheart) by James Horner33:08 — "The Passage of Time" (Bicentennial Man) by James Horner35:02 — "All Love Can Be" (A Beautiful Mind)Thank you for posting this - it was a fitting tribute. So much great music. Such an unexpected loss. After listening to a soundtrack or two each day during the past week, this was a perfect end. Such a loving tribute to this tremendous loss. In this tribute by his former school there's a nice pic of the artist as a young man:This is a wonderful tribute...full of joy...RIP. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Found this 2010 interview:http://soundcheck.wnyc.org/story/43091-james-horner/ HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Doug Fake of Intrada:6/24/2015 Just a couple of days since Father's Day and a lifetime has passed. Man, what this guy could do! He led Achilles into battle, guided Alfred to redemption, ushered Eddie Murphy into stardom. He gave Balto his heritage, turned a cornfield into a baseball diamond and charged Fort Wagner. Yep. He rescued Jenny and made a champion out of Dre. Wow! This man found Spock! He almost got to the moon!! How many of us mere mortals can do that?? That's probably the difference. We're just mortals. This guy James Horner was... no, is immortal. His music will never stop. His heart really will go on. Forever.http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I just started writing some very early/rough ideas for a violin concerto for a friend. It became quickly apparent that a certain ghost must have been in the room because within the first minute I did an unconscious quasi-lift from The Katra Ritual. Ok, it's more than just a similarity in an introductory buildup. I must actually want to write something in my own version of the Horner spirit. Think I'll stop fighting it and dedicate it to his memory.Short snippet of that first clumsy attempt. Sorry about the oversaturation....http://picosong.com/gDRV/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,912 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 This appears to be the preliminary National Transportation Safety Board report. It is very clinical since the purpose is for general safety so I will put it in spoiler tags for those not interested in the preliminary details. I respectfully ask those not interested in the clinical details avoid reading this preliminary report.NTSB Identification: WPR15FA19514 CFR Part 91: General AviationAccident occurred Monday, June 22, 2015 in Maricopa, CAAircraft: SHORT BROTHERS PLC S312 TUCANO T MK1, registration: N206PZInjuries: 1 Fatal.This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. NTSB investigators either traveled in support of this investigation or conducted a significant amount of investigative work without any travel, and used data obtained from various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.On June 22, 2015, about 0930 Pacific daylight time, an experimental exhibition category Short Brothers PLC S312 Tucano T MK1 airplane, N206PZ, was destroyed when it impacted terrain about 16 miles south of Maricopa, California. The private pilot, who was the sole occupant, was fatally injured. The aircraft was registered to Tucano Flyer LLC, and operated by the pilot under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 as personal flight. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and a flight plan had not been filed. The flight originated from Camarillo Airport (CMA), Camarillo, California, at 0810.According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the pilot was in contact with the SoCal Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC) and was receiving advisories while maneuvering over the Chumash Wilderness area. Radar reviewed by NTSB investigators depicted multiple turns, rapid changes in altitude, and airspeed. At 0925 radar contact was lost and no other communication was received from the pilot.Examination of the accident site revealed that the wreckage was located in a dry creek bed. The airplane was destroyed by high impact forces and a postimpact fire. The debris field was 641 feet in length and 355 feet wide. A large crater about 11 feet in diameter and 5 feet deep, was found at the beginning of the debris field. Postimpact fire was observed along the debris path and throughout the surrounding terrain. About 1 acre of land was burned. All major structural components and primary flight controls were located within the debris path.A witness stated that the airplane flew directly over his house in straight and level flight between 500 and 750 feet above ground level (agl). He further stated that the sound was different than other airplanes that fly in the area, but it didn't sound like anything was wrong. The airplane continued to fly straight and level in an easterly direction towards Quatal Canyon road.Another witness located at her residence on Quatal Canyon road, was about 1 mile northeast from the first witness's location. She was outside when she saw the airplane circle her home and depart eastward paralleling Quatal Road and proceeded to fly up the canyon. She further stated that the airplane was about 500 feet agl. The engine sound was loud and consistent. After losing sight of the airplane behind a small hill, smoke and dust was seen rising from the canyon.The wreckage was relocated to a secure facility for further examination.http://ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20150622X64755&key=1I do not intend to post this to exploit the tragedy but rather for general information. I just started writing some very early/rough ideas for a violin concerto for a friend. It became quickly apparent that a certain ghost must have been in the room because within the first minute I did an unconscious quasi-lift from The Katra Ritual. Ok, it's more than just a similarity in an introductory buildup. I must actually want to write something in my own version of the Horner spirit. Think I'll stop fighting it and dedicate it to his memory.Short snippet of that first clumsy attempt. Sorry about the oversaturation....http://picosong.com/gDRV/Very nice job, Grey. A fitting tribute. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 He flew in a circle before impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 No, I'm not sure that's what it's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It seems like he was just riding out the inevitable, trying to keep it level as he lost altitude. I guess pilots don't prepare for events such as these with parachutes, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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