Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 That passage always sort of reminds me of the middle of this Adams piece, at 2:04. Britten gets ripped off by James, then James gets ripped off by Adams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 One of the top Horner moments is at the end of Rendezvous at Griffith Park Observatory when the Rocketeer runs up the stairs and blasts off the roof. I ran up those stairs and could just hear the music in my brain. Every time I listen to it, in fact, I have this urge to run up stairs and rocket off the roof.He did that quite often, rocket off the roof i mean. Just watched it and was astounded how much i enjoyed the movie again after 15 years. The effects are wonderful and the lack of CGI means they actually have weight. I honestly think Spielberg/Williams couldn't have bettered it. The JENNY theme isn't used much but i like it even more than the main theme. The usual punchline would be me saying WE NEED A COMPLETE RELEASE NOW! but i find the old Hollywood Records about perfect - and the recording by Murphy reigns big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 It actually is a perfect album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Actually, that's a full minute where "The Chase" from Cocoon is an exact replica of a minute from the "Genesis Countdown" in TWOK—complete with unique syncopated rhythms and everything. It's way to precise to be a simple example of a tune stuck in his head that wound up in another film; I have to think he was getting pressed for time and intentionally lifted that section because he liked the sound and it fit well (and, to be sure, there's no question it works in both contexts).So what profound conclusion can we draw from this? James Horner occasionally copied himself. Stop the presses. I stand corrected, apologies. Him copying himself wasn't a criticsm on this occasion. Sort of hit out of the blue as I've not seen Cocoon in years.ending tonight's binge with this from Deep Impact remember the first time I saw the film, that scene where the astronauts say their goodbyes to their families was heartwrenching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornerIsTheMan 4 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 "Hard to Starboard" is as aggressive and terrifying as anything Horner ever wroteNice find, very similar, but I think he perfects this material in "Hard to Starboard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The RocketeerIt really is a beautifully compiled album. The theme is great, and while I'm not a fan of the period songs incorporated, it is rousing. Horner is a master at doing End Credit suites, and this is another one for the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 As well as A Beautiful Mind and The Amazing Spider-Man.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I stand corrected, apologies. Him copying himself wasn't a criticsm on this occasion. Sort of hit out of the blue as I've not seen Cocoon in years.Oh, no apologies necessary. I was just having a little fun with the fact that we always seem to come full circle to Horner's predilection for self-replication. (And it caught my interest because it was the first example of it I ever noticed, back in my early days as a collector.) Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Horner took what other people did and made it better. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Especially Britten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Ah, the Great Britten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Actually, that's a full minute where "The Chase" from Cocoon is an exact replica of a minute from the "Genesis Countdown" in TWOK—complete with unique syncopated rhythms and everything. Which of course an exact replica of Benjamin Britten's Sinfonia Da Requiem mvt 2 Dies Irae.Check it out (from about 9:16): Karol - repeating himself It's in Cocoon - The Return too.Nice find, very similar, but I think he perfects this material in "Hard to Starboard."For amusement, go and look up Al Bathra at www.ascap.com/ace. fommes and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Ah, the Great Britten... You sly bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Wolf TotemAs much as it seems like its going to be a "greatest hits" of Horner's action music to start (especially "The Wolves Attack The Horses"), it eventually becomes something really special. The main theme is gorgeous, and gets many great variations throughout the score. "Return to the Wild" is one of the greatest wrap-up tracks of Horner's filmography. This is a great album and I can't wait to get the US CD whenever that finally happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The music makes me actually interested in watching the movie. That sadly just disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 September 11 Wolf Totem's coming out in the U.S.Jean-Jacques Annaud also made Two Brothers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Yea I'm sure the US CD will come out around then unless the release date of the film gets changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In Germany it's due in late October, just when i'm off to Asia and upon my return it will have vanished. Pity, i love movies about...wolves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 OK, now this is becoming creepy: you guys are two rocketeers, twins. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 OK, fixed it....i find putting my own pic up there better anyway. People know then by whom they are attacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 You look so contemptuous on that pic. Suits you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'd hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 But would it let you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 There's a global listening party today at 9:30AM PDT / 12:30PM EST / you figure out your own local time (its 30 minutes from now)#ThankYouJamesHornerThis Monday, June 29th, James Horner will be remembered around the world by his fans, admirers, colleagues, and film music enthusiasts, and we want you to be a part of it. That morning, at exactly 9:30AM Pacific Time – exactly one week after Horner’s sudden and tragic death – we invite you to pick a track from one of Horner’s scores, and listen to it wherever you are. You can listen in the car, on your home theater, your mp3 player, streaming online, whatever! You can listen on the go, at work, wherever you are. If you cannot join us exactly at 9:30AM Pacific Time, you can still participate in this global tribute and celebration by listening to his music at some point that morning or during the day.If you feel so moved when you listen, tell us what you are listening to, and use the hashtag #ThankYouJamesHorner in your post. You can post here, on your Facebook timeline, Twitter, or all of the above! Let’s make our appreciation for this amazing composer’s music known to the world.Please share this page and invite all those you know who were touched by the life and music of James Horner. This page is the main organizational tool of this event. We want everyone – EVERYONE! – who was (and always will be) impacted by this incredible man and his music to have the opportunity to be a part of this. We will be united by his music and celebrate his legacy together. Will you join us? More info: https://www.facebook.com/events/1633598916884975/I'll be listening to TWOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Combat Drop for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 It was "Preparations for Battle" for me again. Just can't separate that music from the man. I think it's his best moment all the way around.Now preparing to upload a tribute video for that score (I'd hoped to have it finished by the deadline, but couldn't quite get it done. . . .). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'd hit it.With an inverse tachyon beam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Well I missed the opportunity for the global Horner celebration. But I've listened to enough the past days to not feel bad about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 A later Horner i always found very evocative: Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 It's a real shame Horner didn't explore the more beautiful side of that theme in the score. I understand the functional purpose, given the film's subject matter, but it's really one of his most beautiful pieces/themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Yeah, it's one of those things that lingered, he did a warm-up for it in SWING KIDS but BOY is certainly the better score and reworking of that tune. The melancholically secondary idea that runs from the second track to 'The Boys plan, from Night to Day' is also exemplary in its quiet desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 "The Gift of Mortality" - Bicentennial Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 WillowOooh, I hadn't listened to this in ages. What joy! I love the texture of this score. It's another fantasy score, but it doesn't really sound a lot like Krull. I loved the handful of quasi-diagetic bits throughout, and the two main themes are both excellent. This is wonderful and I'd love a 2 disc complete edition. Come on, Intrada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The first cue alone ('Elora Danan') is film music history. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Yea, good stuff. I liked that Willow's theme wasn't even introduced until the second track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'm betting we're going to see a lot of new, expanded Horner releases over the next couple of years (and I certainly hope Willow will be one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I want an expanded Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 The entire score to Avatar leaked online years ago now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted June 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2015 I want an expanded Avatar.Here you go. MikeH, Marian Schedenig, Not Mr. Big and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 That was just plain awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Yeah, it's one of those things that lingered, he did a warm-up for it in SWING KIDS but BOY is certainly the better score and reworking of that tune. The melancholically secondary idea that runs from the second track to 'The Boys plan, from Night to Day' is also exemplary in its quiet desperation. Listening to this one right now, actually. Also one of my favorite latter Horner scores. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 A later Horner i always found very evocative: I liked that he never decided to guy the obvious route Jewish solo violin/fiddle. Williams' Schindler's List worked because of its almost "source music" vibe but otherwise it's a horrible cliche.Yeah, it's one of those things that lingered, he did a warm-up for it in SWING KIDS but BOY is certainly the better score and reworking of that tune. The melancholically secondary idea that runs from the second track to 'The Boys plan, from Night to Day' is also exemplary in its quiet desperation. Listening to this one right now, actually. Also one of my favorite latter Horner scores.Same.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Willow is top 5 Horner material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 5:06 - 6:00 of "Death of Titanic" is on the same level of 0:55-1:18 of "The Tide Turns" in my book. The driving rhythm, the two thematic ideas playing against one another, the build up. Sublime music by two very talented gentlemen. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 An American TailAn American Tail: Fievel Goes WestThese are so much fun. Horner's animated scores are just an extension of his regular adventuring scores, but more cutesy or gorgeous. The second is my favourite of the two.The Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil and Will Jennings songs are so charming they would make a cynic smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Is the girl you left behindOut there tonight romancing? *toe-tapping intensifies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of KhanMan this is a great score. And one of the few I kind of equally like going back to the OST presentation as much as I like listening to the complete. I mean in most cases once the expanded release comes out i never really have a reason to revisit the OST, but man, this OST is perfectly assembled containing all the highlights and telling a full story while keeping a perfect pace and flow. Also I still in my head always separate the old tracks from the new; A lot of times you get so used to the new presentation eventually as the years go on you "forget" which tracks are new vs old and just enjoy the whole CD without thinking about that stuff. For some reason with TWOK I always an aware of what I'm listening to. Maybe its because the OST was only 9 tracks and they were all long and all the new cues or short, or maybe its because I was used the OST for 15 years and have only had the expanded for 6 (has it been 6 years already? Dang!)That being said this time I listened to the complete. This time I noticed how lovely the Genesis music is in "Genesis Cave" and "Epilogue", and now great that middle section of Inside Regula I / Brainwashed / Captain Terrell's Death / Buried Alive is. Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 A later Horner i always found very evocative: I liked that he never decided to guy the obvious route Jewish solo violin/fiddle. Williams' Schindler's List worked because of its almost "source music" vibe but otherwise it's a horrible cliche.JNH's DEFIANCE never worked for me for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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