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Pieter Boelen 740 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Even working people who are genuinely into the lore surely struggle to find the time to read the damn things. Wow; that's a REALLY accurate description of my situation! You are right on the money there. 4 hours ago, Holko said: Having read many old EU books but loving none of them (I liked some of the comics like KotOR much more back in the day, the SW universe is much more visual than wordy), I looked through a guide and deducted Bloodlines is the only one really worth reading for background. After not finding an e-version of it in any convenient store at that moment and pirating it, I deleted it after the first chapter, the writing was just atrocious, like an unedited first draft. That one is written by Claudia Grey. I've read several of those new SW books and I found hers to be the best of the bunch. For some reason though, Bloodline didn't connect with me and it was a chore to get through. On the other hand, "Leia: Princess of Alderaan" also has a strong connection to the background and lore of the series, but I like it far, far better. I cannot explain why, when it's the same writer and the same character. It's weird. "Lost Stars" is an interesting one too as it basically doesn't affect the plots of the movies at all. Instead, it tells a completely separate story with brand new characters and the events of Episodes IV-VIII serving 'only' as background. It's an interesting approach and could probably be enjoyed as a fully stand-alone story even by those with no familiarity of the actual films. If you cannot enjoy "Leia" or "Lost Stars" either, I sincerely doubt you'd enjoy any of those new SW books and you're probably better off skipping them all. 1 hour ago, Modest Expectations said: I have a crazy idea that it might have to do something with the quality of products and services purchased in good faith. Could be. But I feel like there is prequel-level bashing going on while TFA does feel, at least to me, like a higher quality film than those. I might be wrong, but it suggests to me there is something more at play than the quality alone. My personal hypothesis is that there has been a culture shift between when the original trilogy was released and now, some 40 years later. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I never used to listen to audiobooks in the car, but, a few years ago when I had babies in the NICU for a month and a half, and I was back and forth to the hospital constantly, I picked up Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire audiobook, and thought it was ace! This was right after The Force Awakens came out. Anyway, great narrator who nailed the character voices, fun sound effects and occasional (if a bit too occasional) music, and the author writes a fun swashbuckling yarn that feels like a seamless continuation of Return of the Jedi. I went through my whole life up to that point trying not to cross that particular nerd line, but, the Thrawn books and the X-Wing books are indeed great fun! Oh, and the radio dramas of the OT, as I think everyone knows, are also very good. I tried to listen to the TFA novelization later, and it was a real snoozer. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Okay I watched the trailer with the evil Daisy. That’s another clone, an evil one. That one has Darth Maul’s soul. Remember the cave - the cave in TLJ where Rey looks for her origin and she sees it’s Daiseys all the way down. You’re welcome John Williams. Something like that. The trailer has the Emperor’s voice and Luke’s voice and Darth Vader’s breathing, so, they’re all coming back somehow. 3PO’s clearly possessed by someone too, as I mentioned, so. All the force ghosts are wargs now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,639 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 Will, Remco and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Pen pal eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Williams has more than enough lead left for such a youngling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 It does seem a bit weird. When Williams talked about Daisy as the reason he was scoring VIII, I figured he was trying to be funny. I think he is truly enamored by the woman. I guess if it gets me more Williams SW music, then why on earth would I complain. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 . crumbs and Remco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 It's creepy. If Ray was more like Daisy in that interview, it would be 1000% better. She seems cool as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 Lando is wearing the same shit he wore almost forty years ago, like they were afraid the audience wouldn't recognize it was him. The Illustrious Jerry, Will, Chen G. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hope Lando at least washed them since then... 2 hours ago, Tom said: It does seem a bit weird. When Williams talked about Daisy as the reason he was scoring VIII, I figured he was trying to be funny. I think he is truly enamored by the woman. I guess if it gets me more Williams SW music, then why on earth would I complain. I agree that it's a little weird (arguably even creepy), although that could just be because I'm super on-edge about the behavior of basically every male celebrity after the recent #MeToo revelations. In any event I am of course inclined to give JW the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Will said: Hope Lando at least washed them since then... I agree that it's a little weird (arguably even creepy), although that could just be because I'm super on-edge about the behavior of basically every male celebrity after the recent #MeToo revelations. In any event I am of course inclined to give JW the benefit of the doubt. Yeah men and women shouldn't be interacting with each other without strict monitoring from a professional qualified in assessing workplace sexual relations and authorised in escalating reports to employers and alerting law enforcement authorities should any form of harassment be detected. It's likely John Williams is a vicious sexual predator and vulnerable young womyn must be strongly cautioned. Gruesome Son of a Bitch and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Pellaeon said: 3PO’s clearly possessed by someone too, He's got a virus. Probably the bad-sequel flu. _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,510 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 . Quintus, Unlucky Bastard and Will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Modest Expectations said: One would expect affirmation and support from the JWFan for the great composer and whomever he is on tender terms with by default. Let me suggest a dictionary of alternative expressions: - How cute - I find it lovely - It is good to see - I am happy for her/him/them - I'm shipping it This. Wtf is wrong with these guys? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 His comments have always struck me as either grandfatherly or a bit tongue-in-cheek. Not creepy at all. I'm sure they don't even interact much. Ridley was an instant star in TFA, her charisma was positively electric. Of course she was inspiring for him as a composer who needs to respond to the characters musically. Remco, The Illustrious Jerry, Will and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,943 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: His comments have always struck me as either grandfatherly That. You can really hear it in Rey's theme. It doesn't have the romantic edge of, say, Leia's theme. As Williams said: "When we first meet her, she's been alone, without her parents[...]I felt a lot of empathy for that girl". Rey's theme is Williams telling the story of a young orphan from the point of view of a grandfather. Jay, Will and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Rey's theme is Williams telling the story of a young orphan from the point of view of a grandfather. Williams' music generally does sound like something a kindly elderly chap running an old timey corner choccy shop would come up with. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 I challenge anyone to find a statement directly from Williams that has even a hint of inappropriateness. People are conflating the jokes made on the forum with Williams' actual words I think. We took his very innocent statements and exaggerated to extreme degrees for humor. Will, John, Bayesian and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I don't think anyone accused him of saying anything inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Words like "weird" and "creepy" don't mean inappropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 After all these years of Williams seemingly unappreciated by professionals in the other fields of the industry, particularly those as in the spotlight as movie stars, isn't it sweet that we finally have a huge breakout star like Daisy Ridley as a champion in his corner? John, _deleted_, Pieter Boelen and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I challenge anyone to find a statement directly from Williams that has even a hint of inappropriateness. People are conflating the jokes made on the forum with Williams' actual words I think. We took his very innocent statements and exaggerated to extreme degrees for humor. Yeah I think that's largely the case. JW's actual comments are just some light-hearted fun and appreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Will said: I agree that it's a little weird (arguably even creepy) ... In any event I am of course inclined to give JW the benefit of the doubt. This is a really poor comment. I'm sure Williams will sleep easier knowing you've given him the 'benefit of the doubt' that he's not some perverted creep obsessed with Ridley. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 The reason @mrbellamy's GIF is a classic and hilarious is because of how incongruous it is with Williams' words and behavior. It wouldn't be funny if there was even a whiff of actual inappropriateness! Let's bask in the glory. BASK! Holko, Jay, John and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 An octogenarian, with his arm around the waist of a moderately pretty, young woman. Let's all cream our jeans, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Natalie Portman never reciprocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Who's that old guy next to Kathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Frank Marshall, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 That is correct. It is Frank Marshall, or, if you prefer, Mr. Kathleen Kennedy. 49 minutes ago, Thekthithm said: Natalie Portman never reciprocated. As you can clearly see, she's goosing him. The look of surprised satisfaction says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: This is a really poor comment. I'm sure Williams will sleep easier knowing you've given him the 'benefit of the doubt' that he's not some perverted creep obsessed with Ridley. I dunno, maybe my generation is just way more #MeToo-paranoid than previous ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 • https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/26/star-wars-the-emperor-is-very-instrumental-in-the-rise-of-skywalker Also Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Adam Driver has always been easily the best actor in the new movies. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 He's one of the best actors of his generation and he's staring to build a fantastic career. He always does interesting work The Illustrious Jerry, crumbs, John and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Cremeritis!! On 8/26/2019 at 11:27 PM, Thekthithm said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Adam Driver has always been easily the best actor in the new movies. I thought TFA lead trio Ford, Ridley, and Boyega were excellent! Honestly, I prefer Kylo Ren with the mask on. Well, except for the Undercover Boss bit, I love that! Chen G. and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,272 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: His comments have always struck me as either grandfatherly or a bit tongue-in-cheek. Not creepy at all. I'm sure they don't even interact much. Ridley was an instant star in TFA, her charisma was positively electric. Of course she was inspiring for him as a composer who needs to respond to the characters musically. If those letters ever get out and he’s calling her “Daisy Baby” it’s all over for him. The Illustrious Jerry, Will and Disco Stu 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Romão said: He's one of the best actors of his generation and he's staring to build a fantastic career. He always does interesting work I mean, damn, he's 35 and already been directed by Spielberg, Scorsese, the Coens, Soderbergh, Spike Lee, Gilliam, and J.J. Abrams. That's an insane resume to have at the end of one's career, but before you're even 40? Goodness me. SteveMc, John, Disco Stu and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: I mean, damn, he's 35 and already been directed by Spielberg, Scorsese, the Coens, Soderbergh, Spike Lee, Gilliam, and J.J. Abrams. That's an insane resume to have at the end of one's career, but before you're even 40? Goodness me. I'd add Jarmusch, one of my heroes! Paterson was a wonderful little movie, one of Driver's best roles IMO. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,739 Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Why was J.J. Abrams in that list of great directors? MikeH, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Fabulin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 That little interview with Daisy was great. She's a jammy git! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Cerebral Cortex, crumbs, Remco and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Where will it put us, John MikeH and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Where will it put us, John The rewrites have fried his brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: I hope the the last reel gives Williams the opportunity to do his "final reel SW thing," for one last brilliant time. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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