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Star Wars IX The Rise of Skywalker (JJ Abrams 2019)


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3 hours ago, Arpy said:

It'll be the rise of the metaphorical 'Skywalker' like that little force-sensitive kid from the casino planet.

 

I agree. It'll be a New Order of Jedi called Skywalkers or something. A bit like the ending of Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

 

It closes the chapter on Johnson's TLJ ending and ties it into the rest of the series.

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Exclusive excerpt from the last page of the shooting script:

 

REY  MOTHMA

There are future Skywalkers all over the galaxy.

Future heroes, future legends. They are the best

hope for the galaxy now, and we will show them

the ways of the Force.

 

We cut to a wide shot of Rey/Finn/Poe celebrating with Force Ghosts of Luke, Han, Leia, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Yoda, Tol Braga, Peazar Hutt, Gorgonn Zola, Excretus Eruptus, Pissin Mowth and Yarael Poof looking on, smiling. Two setting suns glower on the horizon. The music builds to a surprising crescendo. It's the BINARY SUNSET cue, unheard since the very first film.

 

IRIS OUT

 

END CREDITS FANFARE

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I really, really wish they had dropped the whole idea of Episode IX being the “last episode,” first of all because there’s no way in hell it will actually be the last, and second because Star Wars is at its best when it’s unpretentious. I think JJ did a great job with TFA with a zippy adventure with a lot of heart that hit all the right notes, but with this one “having” to “tie together” the whole “saga,” I fear it will be a grandiose mess.

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To be truthful, I'd be surprised if the "wrapping up the whole saga" is anything more than a rhetoric, or a layer of veneer imposed upon the film's actual story.

 

As it is, if Abrams were to really go for it, I have little doubt that the film would crumble under the weight of this nearly-impossible task.

 

Nevertheless, I do want it to be the final chapter. Let Disney have their spinoffs and bugger off.

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2 hours ago, Chen G. said:

To be truthful, I'd be surprised if the "wrapping up the whole saga" is anything more than a rhetoric, or a layer of veneer imposed upon the film's actual story.

 

As it is, if Abrams were to really go for it, I have little doubt that the film would crumble under the weight of this nearly-impossible task.

 

Nevertheless, I do want it to be the final chapter. Let Disney have their spinoffs and bugger off.

 

When the movie will inevitably fail as a wrap up of the whole saga, watch the apologists turn around and say "it's just a movie".

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38 minutes ago, gkgyver said:

 

When the movie will inevitably fail as a wrap up of the whole saga, watch the apologists turn around and say "it's just a movie".

It will be “just a movie.” So was Ep. VIII, which is why I’m surprised by how divisive it was. 

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5 hours ago, Chen G. said:

Its long since evolved into something more, evidentally.

 

Not really. It's just a bit of geek culture fluff that has no tangible effect or meaning in the real world.

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3 hours ago, Thekthithm said:

 

Not really. It's just a bit of geek culture fluff that has no tangible effect or meaning in the real world.

Just like Godzilla!

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1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

It's Gojira, you moron!

 

It's funny Audrey still says it wrong in a weird anglicised way, since the actual Japanese way of pronouncing ゴジラ sounds phonetically closer to "Godzilla" than "Gojira".

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On 9/5/2019 at 5:38 AM, Modest Expectations said:

Here is my prediction of 23 TROS scenes based on footage, merch, and interviews I have found.

 

So is Kelly Tran only going to cameo in this movie? Sort of like Jar-Jar in the later Prequels?

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35 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

the story that Johnson wanted to tell for Finn's development into an actual believer in the Resistance cause

 

I really feel TFA already told that story quite well, and it is unsatisfying to see him backslide at the beginning of TLJ.

 

35 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

At the beginning of TROS, I bet that Finn & Rose will either be fully in a relationship together or in a place where it just didn't work out.

 

The kiss doesn’t seem consensual to me, so, I don’t see that going anywhere.

 

TFA set up Finn’s attraction to Rey, and I think it likely JJ will return to his original intention, here, if the pacing of the film allows for any romantic subplot at all!

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I don’t really follow you. I thought it was a weak direction, but, YMMV.

 

Anyway, I keep bringing up TFA because I think it’s a better predictor of where TRoS is going, based on everything I’ve read (eg., Abrams saying that TLJ didn’t actually succeed in derailing his intentions; Williams saying he “hopes” TRoS reveals Rey’s parentage to be different than what was stated in TLJ, etc.).

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2 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

It makes sense for her to have a less important role in the sequel now that her original narrative function is fulfilled.

  

The only question really left dangling is if her and Finn continue to develop a romantic relationship

 

The intention in the introduction of Rose strikes me as part of any sequel's obligation to introduce new characters into the main narrative. So putting her on the sidelines would be a sort of backing-off of the traejectory marked by Johnson.

 

Personally, I think she'll be more prominent in the film then marketing would suggest.

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55 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

Personally, I think she'll be more prominent in the film then marketing would suggest.

If you can even call it marketing, what Disney's released so far (which is virtually nothing).

 

My vain hope is that people would wait until the movie is in theaters before deciding that JJ threw everything out that RJ did in TLJ. There's no reason to think TLJ derailed any overarching plan for the trilogy, especially since we know there never existed any such plan.

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I don’t think JJ Abrams is cowardly enough to back out from Johnson’s furthering of the story.

 

On the other hand, stuff that he’s teasing like the return of the emperor, a dark Rey and so forth, don’t reassure me.

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