Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Will that bit lead somewhere or will they just forget about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Arpy said: It'll be the rise of the metaphorical 'Skywalker' like that little force-sensitive kid from the casino planet. I agree. It'll be a New Order of Jedi called Skywalkers or something. A bit like the ending of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It closes the chapter on Johnson's TLJ ending and ties it into the rest of the series. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Or Kylo will be redeemed and Rey will be revealed to have been Luke's daughter all along. I suppose that's what the "fandom" would prefer? Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Exclusive excerpt from the last page of the shooting script: REY MOTHMA There are future Skywalkers all over the galaxy. Future heroes, future legends. They are the best hope for the galaxy now, and we will show them the ways of the Force. We cut to a wide shot of Rey/Finn/Poe celebrating with Force Ghosts of Luke, Han, Leia, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Yoda, Tol Braga, Peazar Hutt, Gorgonn Zola, Excretus Eruptus, Pissin Mowth and Yarael Poof looking on, smiling. Two setting suns glower on the horizon. The music builds to a surprising crescendo. It's the BINARY SUNSET cue, unheard since the very first film. IRIS OUT END CREDITS FANFARE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I really, really wish they had dropped the whole idea of Episode IX being the “last episode,” first of all because there’s no way in hell it will actually be the last, and second because Star Wars is at its best when it’s unpretentious. I think JJ did a great job with TFA with a zippy adventure with a lot of heart that hit all the right notes, but with this one “having” to “tie together” the whole “saga,” I fear it will be a grandiose mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 To be truthful, I'd be surprised if the "wrapping up the whole saga" is anything more than a rhetoric, or a layer of veneer imposed upon the film's actual story. As it is, if Abrams were to really go for it, I have little doubt that the film would crumble under the weight of this nearly-impossible task. Nevertheless, I do want it to be the final chapter. Let Disney have their spinoffs and bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 To me, everything that doesn’t follow the original “Adventures of Luke Skywalker” paradigm is a spinoff. Chen G. and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: To be truthful, I'd be surprised if the "wrapping up the whole saga" is anything more than a rhetoric, or a layer of veneer imposed upon the film's actual story. As it is, if Abrams were to really go for it, I have little doubt that the film would crumble under the weight of this nearly-impossible task. Nevertheless, I do want it to be the final chapter. Let Disney have their spinoffs and bugger off. When the movie will inevitably fail as a wrap up of the whole saga, watch the apologists turn around and say "it's just a movie". _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I can only be so critical of a film failing to achieve a practically impossible task, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bayesian 1,363 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, gkgyver said: When the movie will inevitably fail as a wrap up of the whole saga, watch the apologists turn around and say "it's just a movie". It will be “just a movie.” So was Ep. VIII, which is why I’m surprised by how divisive it was. mstrox and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 It's just a popcorn space movie for kids. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Its long since evolved into something more, evidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Episode V was something more and it deserves to get a worthy follow up some day. Fabulin and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Chen G. said: Its long since evolved into something more, evidentally. A popcorn space movie for immature adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Chen G. said: Its long since evolved into something more, evidentally. Not really. It's just a bit of geek culture fluff that has no tangible effect or meaning in the real world. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Not really. It's just a bit of geek culture fluff that has no tangible effect or meaning in the real world. Just like Godzilla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 It's Gojira, you moron! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I don't speak Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: It's Gojira, you moron! It's funny Audrey still says it wrong in a weird anglicised way, since the actual Japanese way of pronouncing ゴジラ sounds phonetically closer to "Godzilla" than "Gojira". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I've always thought of TPM as pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Thekthithm said: I've always thought of TPM as pink. Think pink! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 5:38 AM, Modest Expectations said: Here is my prediction of 23 TROS scenes based on footage, merch, and interviews I have found. So is Kelly Tran only going to cameo in this movie? Sort of like Jar-Jar in the later Prequels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 She was an essential character for the story that Johnson wanted to tell for Finn's development into an actual believer in the Resistance cause, whether you actually like how that story was told or not. It makes sense for her to have a less important role in the sequel now that her original narrative function is fulfilled. The only question really left dangling is if her and Finn continue to develop a romantic relationship, but Abrams could very easily just write it so that that story had occurred in the time gap between TLJ and TROS. At the beginning of TROS, I bet that Finn & Rose will either be fully in a relationship together or in a place where it just didn't work out. Maybe she wasn't happy that he spent way more time with Poe than her Remco, Not Mr. Big, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: the story that Johnson wanted to tell for Finn's development into an actual believer in the Resistance cause I really feel TFA already told that story quite well, and it is unsatisfying to see him backslide at the beginning of TLJ. 35 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: At the beginning of TROS, I bet that Finn & Rose will either be fully in a relationship together or in a place where it just didn't work out. The kiss doesn’t seem consensual to me, so, I don’t see that going anywhere. TFA set up Finn’s attraction to Rey, and I think it likely JJ will return to his original intention, here, if the pacing of the film allows for any romantic subplot at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: I really feel TFA already told that story quite well, and it is unsatisfying to see him backslide at the beginning of TLJ. Let's see, in TFA he explicitly says he's only on Starkiller because of Rey, not the Resistance, "saves" Rey, they help Han together, he's out cold protecting Rey... wakes up and first thing he asks is "where's Rey?" then tries to go off to ensure her safety. Nope, I see no backslide there. Bayesian, Remco, Disco Stu and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Oh… pff… yeah… I forgot in Rian’s perspective it’s not good enough to be motivated by love, you have to have political convictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Holko said: Let's see, in TFA he explicitly says he's only on Starkiller because of Rey, not the Resistance, "saves" Rey, they help Han together, he's out cold protecting Rey... wakes up and first thing he asks is "where's Rey?" then tries to go off to ensure her safety. Nope, I see no backslide there. Seriously. I see no other option for Johnson when starting his script, actually. The only loyalty Finn demonstrates in TFA is to Rey. Johnson had to develop him to the point where he would stay with the Resistance even if Rey wasn't there. Smaug The Iron, The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Thank god we didn't have to watch a freeroamer with no belonging in the world become a general in a rebellion with political convictions... twice... OH WAIT Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I don’t really follow you. I thought it was a weak direction, but, YMMV. Anyway, I keep bringing up TFA because I think it’s a better predictor of where TRoS is going, based on everything I’ve read (eg., Abrams saying that TLJ didn’t actually succeed in derailing his intentions; Williams saying he “hopes” TRoS reveals Rey’s parentage to be different than what was stated in TLJ, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Criticism of TLJ is forbidden. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, Thekthithm said: Criticism of TLJ is forbidden. I don't see how reasonably discussing disagreements means anyone is forbidding anyone from doing anything. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Then I'm surprised Kennedy didn't insist on more screen time for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It makes sense for her to have a less important role in the sequel now that her original narrative function is fulfilled. The only question really left dangling is if her and Finn continue to develop a romantic relationship The intention in the introduction of Rose strikes me as part of any sequel's obligation to introduce new characters into the main narrative. So putting her on the sidelines would be a sort of backing-off of the traejectory marked by Johnson. Personally, I think she'll be more prominent in the film then marketing would suggest. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 The Rise of Skyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Are you saying Rose is a Skywalker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bayesian 1,363 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 55 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Personally, I think she'll be more prominent in the film then marketing would suggest. If you can even call it marketing, what Disney's released so far (which is virtually nothing). My vain hope is that people would wait until the movie is in theaters before deciding that JJ threw everything out that RJ did in TLJ. There's no reason to think TLJ derailed any overarching plan for the trilogy, especially since we know there never existed any such plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I don’t think JJ Abrams is cowardly enough to back out from Johnson’s furthering of the story. On the other hand, stuff that he’s teasing like the return of the emperor, a dark Rey and so forth, don’t reassure me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 TLJ has split the fandom to its core. Only the Chosen one can restore it! I believe in JJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 He's a crowdpleaser 100%. My only worry is that sometimes things that he thinks are crowdpleasing are actually abominations. Case in point, the "Khaaaaan" reversal in Into Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Haven't seen and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 My eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 It was a terrible movie. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 It really isn't. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Into Darkness has a hard-to-follow plot and I've forgotten what Beyond was all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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