Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 To the vehicle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I try not to get too hung up on what feels like TNG and what doesn’t. I’d watch that cast do anything. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: I think for most people the appeal of a television series being adapted into a movie is the opportunity to see the characters and settings tell a story larger in scop Sounds about right. Although - like so many things - scale is a matter of taste: some people just love it when things are writ large. Others are oblivious to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I've been making my way through TNG again - some episodes I never saw the first time so it's always a treat! I would say though, that there is a certain tone and feeling that the series continues to hold that for whatever reason (Generations aside) the films just couldn't capture in the same way - and perhaps that's just an inherent characteristic of television over film? Or at least for Star Trek, that television as a medium is more accommodating for the stories that are being told? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 First Contact feels decidedly more Deep Space Nine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 First Contact > every other Star Trek movie Cerebral Cortex and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Pellaeon said: Are there any Star Trek fans who are into it mainly for the movies? That would be me. My first exposure to Trek was via TMP. Seeing that on the big screen in '79 was mind-blowing. I got the Enterprise and Spock's shuttle toys and some of the TMP action figures. I only got to see some of the series on TV later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: First Contact > every other Star Trek movie Unlucky Bastard and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 7:50 PM, Not Mr. Big said: First Contact > every other Star Trek movie Yeah, if your idea of Star Trek is an awkward Aliens ripoff where the crew fights space zombies. The Borg were totally ruined by this overrated movie. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Yeah, if your idea of Star Trek is an awkward Aliens ripoff where the crew fights space zombies. Wait, they made an awesome Star Trek movie? Why wasn't I informed about this, who's in charge? Yavar Moradi and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, mstrox said: who's in charge? Eckhart.... mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Ohhh my god. Come on, let's go, let's go... Disco Stu and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 7:41 PM, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: First Contact feels decidedly more Deep Space Nine! Oh yeah, it's full of complex characters and nuanced politics... Yavar Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It's more dark and disturbing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 In a dumb superficial way, not substantive like DS9. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I like 'em both. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Ve ah looking for the nuclear wessels! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It’s not the be-all-end-all of Star Trek by any stretch of the imagination, but it is my favorite of the movies by a long shot. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 It's the most popular one. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Most popular one? By what measure? Do you mean most popular out of the four mediocre-to-shitty TNG films? Yavar Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 As you can see, it's right at the top of the list. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Generations made slightly more than TUC. It's clearly a better movie. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 TMP > TWOK. Certainly goes against everything we've always been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don't hate any Trek movie. Well...maybe Into Darkness. Anyhoo. That Skywalker be risin'? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don't hate Into Darkness but it's a groaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I think the new Star Wars is gonna be pretty good, probably be some lightsaber fights, some acts of daring do, maybe some sacrifice, but overall an experience that promotes emotion and positivity. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, mstrox said: daring do I'm not usually one to correct trivial things, but this is such a weird word I thought I would. It's actually "derring-do." Isn't that weird??? I have no idea the etymology of that, but it's definitely one of those words where if you've only ever heard it you'd understandably think it should be daring-do. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don't mind the correction, I'd rather be aware! Yavar Moradi, Disco Stu and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I have OED access through work, so I looked it up. It does mean "daring" but it's purposefully using Middle English as a "pseudo-archaism" (OED's phrase) in a humorous way. That's why it's usually meant to emphasize a kind of old-fashioned heroism like Robin Hood and Ivanhoe or whatever. Quote literally daring to do, which, by a chain of misunderstandings and errors, have come to be treated as a kind of substantive combination, taken to mean, Daring action or feats, ‘desperate courage’. Quote Modern romantic writers, led by Sir Walter Scott, have taken it from Spenser, printed it derring-do, and accentuated the erroneous use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Star Wars, what's that? I thought this was the Star Trek thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Star Wars isn't better than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 11:32 PM, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: As you can see, it's right at the top of the list. Actually it’s number 6th on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 What is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 11:47 AM, Yavar Moradi said: Yeah, if your idea of Star Trek is an awkward Aliens ripoff where the crew fights space zombies. The Borg were totally ruined by this overrated movie. Yavar Its the only really good Next Gen film. Just now, Thekthithm said: What is? TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr. Manfrenjensenden said: TMP. It's three down from TVH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. Manfrenjensenden said: Its the only really good Next Gen film. Depends on who you ask. Watch the Red Letter Media reviews on the TNG films and they do a great job of pointing out why they all suck, except for Generations (this was their first Plinkett review ever and I don’t think they’d quite figured out their approach... three quarters of their complaints about it are more what I’d call “humorous nitpicking” but when they get to FC next it’s almost all substantive critique, albeit still communicated via humor). For me, All Good Things... — could’ve been the theatrical film itself, it was so good and the perfect finish to TNG as a series Generations — okay but a far step down from AGT. But that’s it’s main problem, as it’s suffering in comparison to its excellent predecessor. Similarly to Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, another script pass or two would have gone a long way, here. But also like The Final Frontier, there are really very good Star Trek ideas included as well, among the dumb and poorly-executed stuff. It still feels like we are watching The Next Generation, albeit not a great episode. First Contact — a bigger budget, splashy special effects, and very good score with Goldsmith returning to the franchise made a lot of people consider this a step up from Generations. Oh, and sticking the fan-favorite The Borg in the movie. But if you actually care about the Borg as a chilling concept in TNG, they are truly ruined by this film and the stupid Queen, although Alice Kridge certainly relishes her role and hams it up entertainingly. The script is far from good and the two stories (the Bog half and the First Contact half) don’t gel well together. The characters start to behave downright OFF in this film, and many don’t feel remotely consistent with their portrayal in the series. The ending with Jerry’s music is the most powerful part so at least it ends strong, but in between we have a distinctly non-Trek feeling space zombies Aliens rip-off. I really really hate most of this movie. Insurrection — this one is just generally lame, not offensive. It’s faults lie more in execution, but I do respect it for being literally the ONLY Trek movie where Earth doesn’t appear — it’s actually “out there”. But there’s a lot of cringe inducing stuff (Riker’s joystick?) in this and again the characters feel off. It feels lower budget and more rushed than First Contact, but it also feels more like Star Trek and it offends me less...even though the plot is still ridiculous and contradicts the show! Nemesis — this is an absolutely miserable experience in every way and not a single character acts normal; I don’t recognize them as the same characters from the show, which is seemingly completely forgotten about (Lore? Worf doesn’t hate Romulans? And don’t get me started on Picard in this...it makes his portrayal in First Contact look in-character, in comparison.) This was my most hated Trek film until Into Darkness found a way to offend and piss me off even more. Yavar Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Thekthithm said: It's three down from TVH. Which is number 4 on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I had accidentally stumbled into a Star Trek thread. I'll be on my way then... Ollie, toothless, mstrox and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Everything always reverts to Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr. Manfrenjensenden said: Which is number 4 on the list. Yep, which makes it the most popular Star Trek movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Mr. Manfrenjensenden said: Everything always reverts to Star Trek. It’s the slightly more interesting subject. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 It's better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Troll it again! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 How can anyone hate the guy who directed Ozymandias? Docteur Qui and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 His new film is getting rave reviews from the critics. Can’t wait for the inevitable review bombing from traumatised Star Wars fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Interestingly, a lot of the reviews seem to praise the humour, which was one of the distinct (and out-of-place) traits of The Last Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demodex 557 Posted September 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2019 I liked the humor in TLJ. Fabulin, Not Mr. Big, Smaug The Iron and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I don't mean "out-of-place" in that its not funny, although one's mileage may vary. I mean out-of-place in that its unlike the rest of the series, which is why some found it odd. In a film series, you do come to expect some degree of a unified style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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