Chen G. 3,204 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, John said: I just keep seeing people giving The Last Jedi crap because they think running out of fuel has NEVER been a problem in Star Wars before, when the opposite is true. I'm sure it was used as a plot device elsewhere in the series, as well. Although, to be fair, there's a difference between using it at one junction of the plot and using it as the premise on which one of the film's three subplots hinge. A tad too sci-fi, for me, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,031 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I'm sure it was used as a plot device elsewhere in the series, as well. Although, to be fair, there's a difference between using it at one junction of the plot and using it as the premise on which one of the film's three subplots hinge. A tad too sci-fi, for me. What did you expect? It's a science fiction movie. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,204 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Its not. Its a FANTASY series, in a sci-fi setting. Case in point, the plot of the original Star Wars: "a young farmer, a wizard, gilded tinman and dwarf - joined by a walking lion and a pirate, whom they meet at the tavern - go on a quest to save the warrior princess from the fortress of the evil sorcerer." Another case in point: the concept of The Force - introduced ostensibly as magic. Once George Lucas got around to explaining it in science fiction terms - people lost their damn minds. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,776 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Only Chen could claim the SW films aren't sci-fi! You seem in dire need of a waffle, man. John and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,475 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Welcome to WaffleFan! Jurassic Shark and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 260 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Only Chen could claim the SW films aren't sci-fi! You seem in dire need of a waffle, man. isn't it common knowledge it's fantasy, not sci-fi? Chen G. and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,031 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It's very much a science fiction series, with some fantasy elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,222 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It's a space fantasy with light science fiction elements. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It's pornography that tries to pretend it has a story. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,222 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 You saw the wrong version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Daisy Ridley's tits still pale in comparison to her cheekbones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,475 Posted July 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2018 enough with the locker room talk mrbellamy, Not Mr. Big and Cerebral Cortex 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,672 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Wrong thread Kasey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I'm lonely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,672 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Understandable (and relatable) Still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,776 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just watch some Lonely Tunes. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Matt C and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 527 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 hours ago, John said: Also, the Resistance's fuel situation isn't the first time being low on fuel has been used as a plot device in a Star Wars movie. In The Phantom Menace, Padme's cruiser doesn't have enough power to get to Coruscant, so Qui-Gon said they needed to make a stop on Tatooine to refuel and get supplies. If you want to get technical, they had to fix the hyperdrive, not get fuel. I could be wrong because that movie sucks so I haven't seen it in 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,034 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Demodex said: If you want to get technical, they had to fix the hyperdrive, not get fuel. I could be wrong because that movie sucks so I haven't seen it in 15 years. No, you're right. A lot of the people involved in Star Wars don't consider it sci-fi, in the same way Ray Bradbury didn't consider the majority of his stories as sci-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,204 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Because it truly isn’t science fiction, at its core. Science Fiction, being the setting, is of course vital to this series: It’s certainly not a traditional fantasy, but it’s fantasy nonetheless. An action-adventure fantasy set in a science fiction setting. That’s Star Wars in a nutshell for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,222 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Science fiction is not just the presence of cool spaceships, it usually deals with imaginary future technologies and explores how they will change human life, human nature and societies, for better or worse. It can be soft or hard scifi depending on how heavy it is on the technobabble which explains the "science" part. I don't think Star Wars ever really does that. It's classic fantasy opera in a space, science fiction-like setting. Star Trek on the other hand is classic utopistic sci-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 12,961 Posted July 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2018 Every time I check this thread I expect to hear some news about Williams scoring pre-shoot concert suites or something. And every time I open the thread I'm disappointed. Kasey Kockroach, Not Mr. Big and Jurassic Shark 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,958 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Ain't that the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Welcome to my world every time the Solo or Fallen Kingdom threads were updated before the scores/movies came out. "Oh boy, maybe someone found sound samples? Interview of interest? A clip? Anyt-...oh, it's another THIS SCORE'S GONNA SUCK HE SHOULD JUST GIVE UP AND KILL HIMSELF IMMEDIATELY TO TRULY HONOR JOHN WILLIAMS' LEGACY post. Darn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 22 hours ago, John said: Therefore, if they had enough power to get to Coruscant, maybe they wouldn't have met Anakin. And then nothing would have ever happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 "I wish the Force had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened." Disco Stu and artguy360 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,997 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 They just confirmed that Carrie Fisher will be part of Episode IX, using unseen footage from Episode VII. https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-ix-cast-announced The Illustrious Jerry and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,031 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 It’s also been officially confirmed that Billy Dee Williams is back as Lando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 626 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I'm assuming the list of IX cast additions is incomplete since Keri Russell was reportedly confirmed to have a role in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6,997 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 But how Luke can return.... he's dead! 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 #RodanConfirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,701 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: I'm assuming the list of IX cast additions is incomplete since Keri Russell was reportedly confirmed to have a role in the film. Variety updated their article Quote Variety previously reported that Keri Russell was in talks to join the cast for “Episode IX.” Sources confirmed on Friday that Russell has just closed her deal to join the film. And going off the press release I guess that would also indicate that John Williams is already officially signed Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,232 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 No Laura Dern? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 John Williams, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams AND somehow Carrie Fisher returning? Not a bad score! Couldn't really ask for more than that. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,776 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Harrison Ford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,701 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Lol StarWars.com just ninja'd Keri Russell into their press release. Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 626 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Well Hello to Rey’s mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I don't give a bantha crap about Rey's parents anymore. Develop her character, that's what needs to happen! Leia is back in unreleased footage? Maybe a good call. Will her character live on then? Better than a CG Leia or actor replacement, possibly even better than no Leia. Let's hope it works. Lando's back confirmed. Good. Mark Hamill back in it? Force ghost or real person? We don't know. Would making him return in the flesh ruin the events of VIII as opposed to fixing them. Yes, we're sad he died but he died and that's that. Leia and Rey felt it. We saw it. The binary suns appeared and the music soared. I'm thinking simple Force Ghost to get right with Rey, perhaps Leia, and to troll Kylo. Richard E. Grant could be like the DJ or Holdo of IX- the disposable other character, maybe some connection to Lando. Unsure about Akie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 12,961 Posted July 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2018 Had a feeling they'd use unused footage to bring back Leia. Gets around their pledge not to CGI her, because they can just create a CGI body and use real footage of her facial performance. I stand by my Hocus Pocus ending theory, with Luke and Leia "becoming one with the Force" together as Rey/Finn/Poe look on, probably as the second last scene in the film. The final scene will either be Rey reuniting with her parents, or celebrating the destruction of the First Order with Finn/Poe/etc., but the latter is very derivative of ROTJ. I just hope the ending allows a non-Force Theme ending for a change. Let Williams go to town on Rey's Theme in celebratory mode! Matt C, John, Pieter Boelen and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,958 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 What do you think will happen to Ren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,232 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, crumbs said: Had a feeling they'd use unused footage to bring back Leia. Gets around their pledge not to CGI her, because they can just create a CGI body and use real footage of her facial performance. I stand by my Hocus Pocus ending theory, with Luke and Leia Lukus Pucus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,087 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Holdos Poecus Yeah, Williams said he's going to do it. I swear these shitty clickbait articles do the bare minimum in research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,479 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Oh look. Another glorious Star Wars thread. Makes me sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitth'raw'nuorodo 43 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, crumbs said: I just hope the ending allows a non-Force Theme ending for a change. Let Williams go to town on Rey's Theme in celebratory mode! Exact same thought I had! If Kylo is redeemed, I would also love some triumphant major versions of his theme intertwined with Rey's theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 439 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I'm glad Kelly Marie Tran is back. The racist fans hounding her on social media like Daisy Ridley made me sick. Maybe we can get some proper Rose/Finn character development. 44 minutes ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Oh look. Another glorious Star Wars thread. Makes me sick! You're getting an enjoyable Williams autopilot SW score, enjoy it while you can. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I need to remember to ignore this thread from hereon until the movie comes out as until then, every single post is going to be "I wonder if this will happen", "Maybe this will happen", "Will the score use the Force theme?", etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I wonder if it'll have scenes in space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,312 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 "Why do we have British accents even though we're in space and there's no Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Australian accents sound weird in SW. But that's my classic Aussie cultural cringe talking I s'pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,087 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Australian accents sound weird in SW. But that's my classic Aussie cultural cringe talking I s'pose. Jango sounds alright. Someone's gotta sound like an alien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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