Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 So, a friend of mine recently got the game "Until Dawn," and he told me I'd like the music. There's no soundtrack released yet, but Jason Graves provided some samples for an interview and, well, the Killer's Theme sounds familiar.https://soundcloud.com/playstation/until-dawn-killer-themeIt's the Philosopher's Stone motif, note for note. There's not even the most basic attempt to hide it. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 That "music" hurt my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'm well aware that there are pieces that sound the same as each other... but yeah, that's blatantly the game's 'composer' ripping off the Philosopher's Stone theme.Wonder if there are any other plagarized themes in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well this one didn't came from a videogame (it's an early 90's anime series) but the source material certainly came from a videogame: was derived from this: Note that to this day Jerry Goldsmith is still being accused of plagiarizing this theme. As if JG watched any obscure anime series in the 90's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The notes are the same but the form of the melody isn't. Jason Graves has possibly been a bit naughty here (perhaps even consciously), but he doesn't need to worry; Michael Jackson still remains the biggest plagiariser of a Williams melody ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'd disagree there - the melody, tempo, everything is the same. It's a bit hard to hear initially underneath all that banging but it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Why hide it? After all, it's only three notes. If I'd ask my younger brother to play a couple of ominous sounding three notes sequences on the piano, chances are this will be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 It's sickening plagiarism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Isn't the game supposed to have some intentional elements of cliche horror movies? Maybe it's intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Harry Potter & The Philosopher's Stone was a horror movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Of course, haven't you seen it recently? Emma Watson's acting is horrifying! (I know, making fun a child, how classy of me...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 She's the best of the three in that film, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Similar but different. The Killer motif (on stopped horns) is D-F-C#, D-F-C#, D-Gb-F-C#, while the Voldemort motif (transposed to Dm) is D-F-C#, D-F-E-C#. Graves's theme outlines an (0145) tetrachord, while Williams's is the more tonal and less exotic (0134) tetrachord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 You see! Identical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 From the 2 minute mark this gets a bit interesting... Composed by James Hannigan, Jason Graves & James Horner (uncredited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 This is why I see little point in Video Game music. Derivative and creatively bankrupt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 This is hardly the most blatant plagiarism since 300 - which was almost a decade ago now!How about this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I give the Non Stop theme a pass, because of the 7/8 meter, the electronic setting and the re-harmonisation of the Erebor theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Jason Graves' score works wonderfully in game. The man knows his music. Trent B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Ya don't harp on Jason man. It's possible he did it consciously but it's not really note for note...close, yes but not identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 This - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 This is why I see little point in Video Game music. Derivative and creatively bankrupt!You have no clue what you're talking about man ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Must really hate that John Debney guy for being so bankrupt to write Lair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 This is why I see little point in Video Game music. Derivative and creatively bankrupt!You have no clue what you're talking about man ! Don't worry. He has no clue what he's talking about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Must really hate that John Debney guy for being so bankrupt to write Lair.That was a film score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 No it's a score composed for a game ! Climb down from your pedestal and get your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 But it's inspirations were all from film music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Game music is far more interesting and vibrant than movie music nowadays anyway, it's just something I've adapted to and don't think about it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 But it's inspirations were all from film musicI get this remark, I do... John Debney is a film composer after all. He wrote it in the template he knows so well.I just want you to acknowledge that video game music is not poor, cliched or whatever negative description you want to give it.Because I'm confident you've only heard a tiny fraction of what's out there, so you cannot possibly claim that as the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I could only acknowledge something like that by listening to a large portion of it. Which is an issue, since I lack any interest in this genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 You lack interest in a genre you know nothing about? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 You lack interest in a genre you know nothing about? Interesting...Well I'm not into motorbikes and am unlikely to ever build an appreciation of them given that I never ride them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 You lack interest in a genre you know nothing about? Interesting...Well I'm not into motorbikes and am unlikely to ever build an appreciation of them given that I never ride them.You can hardly compare motorbikes with music. I'm afraid of driving them and I'll never get on one... but I don't dismiss them as shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Which is exactly why I drew that comparison Steef walked into it.Ignorance may be bliss, but it certainly isn't experience or knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Well I'm not into motorbikes and am unlikely to ever build an appreciation of them given that I never ride them.But I bet you know everything about these machines, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Is that what you drive, Alex? Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I could only acknowledge something like that by listening to a large portion of it. Which is an issue, since I lack any interest in this genre.You have a problem acknowledging it, but you have no problem expressing your distasteful opinion of the genre by poo-pooing all over anyone's praise of video games and related aspects. Seems all you're after is the attention, the post counts, the chance to say "Since I'm Steef and my opinion is Gospel on this nerd site, this is what I need to say about video games. [insert vomit]." Because you clearly DO have an interest in the genre. You despise it, which is interest X 180°. DreamTheater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Good....GOOOOOODDD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Well I'm not into motorbikes and am unlikely to ever build an appreciation of them given that I never ride them.But I bet you know everything about these machines, right?You misquoted and no I'm not a car freak either. I know how to put one in gear, accelerate, brake, turn the wheel, put on the A/C, and turn the windshield wipers on, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Thats a great looking car! Mitsubishi Evo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 That stop sign lurking in the background is rather poetically facing that abomination of a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Yeah. It's basically saying: "Stop this madness!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Excellent build quality on these! Jeremy Clarkson loves them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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