Jay 37,323 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Really, I think its hard to predict exactly what to expect. There's a lot of possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 True, I suppose I am just a pessimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What do people actually expect to happen when Sony loses the licenses, I am curious?The almighty Disney will seize them and starts producing us the complete scores with Mike Matessino at the helm! Sarcasm aside, does anyone really expect that to happen? I think it's more likely Disney will just keep on milking money without releasing anything new the way Sony has for many years. I was actually expressing genuine hope of Disney (or some other company) doing the honorable thing and giving these scores their definitive versions, when Sony's reign of repackaging ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What do people actually expect to happen when Sony loses the licenses, I am curious?The almighty Disney will seize them and starts producing us the complete scores with Mike Matessino at the helm! Sarcasm aside, does anyone really expect that to happen? I think it's more likely Disney will just keep on milking money without releasing anything new the way Sony has for many years. I was actually expressing genuine hope of Disney (or some other company) doing the honorable thing and giving these scores their definitive versions, when Sony's reign of repackaging ends.Ah, well, I hope so too, but I don't have any optimism about them keeping our niche market in mind. Well, niche enough to want proper, complete releases, versus the commercial-friendly OST's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What do people actually expect to happen when Sony loses the licenses, I am curious?The almighty Disney will seize them and starts producing us the complete scores with Mike Matessino at the helm! Sarcasm aside, does anyone really expect that to happen? I think it's more likely Disney will just keep on milking money without releasing anything new the way Sony has for many years. I was actually expressing genuine hope of Disney (or some other company) doing the honorable thing and giving these scores their definitive versions, when Sony's reign of repackaging ends. Ah, well, I hope so too, but I don't have any optimism about them keeping our niche market in mind. Well, niche enough to want proper, complete releases, versus the commercial-friendly OST's.The Disney Legacy collection gives me hope they might do the SW music justice if they got the license. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah. Either that or their collaboration with Intrada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Tasker 21 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yeah. Either that or their collaboration with Intrada.This is my hope as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTHX 21 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Does Intrada do 3 disc sets? I'm thinking each SW would have to be 3 discs each. Maybe A New Hope can get away with being just two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You're wrong. The complete FILM score of ANH actually fits one ONE disc (IE, if you don't include Princess Leia's Theme or the two Cantina Band tracks, but DO include the Binary Sunset alternate). Regardless, a 2CD set would still be needed of course to get all those in there plus the original album presentation.TESB easily fits on 2 discs, including every last alternate you can think of.ROTJ could also fit on two discs, but you COULD do a 3 disc set to include every tiny little difference that's ever turned up, or if you wanted to make sure to present those differences in a repeat of the entire cue / track the original version was in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You're forgetting the original album presentations. We would want those, as ESB has never been properly released and I don't hold out much hope for whatever Sony is releasing. Complete chronological score, alternates (including takes we've never heard before) and album presentations. I'm thinking 3 discs for Star Wars (why not?) and at least 4 each for ESB and ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You're forgetting the original album presentations. Regardless, a 2CD set would still be needed of course to get all those in there plus the original album presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTHX 21 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I never liked the alternates on the SW special editions. They're nice to have. I just never really liked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The Cantina Bands are more essential than alternate Binary Sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 We need the Cantina Band with the proper ending that doesn't fade out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I really like the alternate Binary Sunset. It doesn't surpass the film version (what does, really?), but it's a very interesting musical piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 We need the Cantina Band with the proper ending that doesn't fade out.Here you go buddy, the complete version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The TFA soundtrack cover has been slightly changed, to enlarge Williams' credit (perhaps Disney was reading JWFan, and wanted to show their commitment to Williams and dispel suggestions that the cellar song writer would get all the publicity ):http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens/dp/B014V6JIQK Cerebral Cortex and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The omision of 'composed and conducted by' is very strange, all star wars films had that. If he did conduct parts of it, he is entitled to it, they can put additional conducting on the back cover.Also, the omission of 'composed by' diminishes his work, many composers who use collaborators to aid them are credited just like that. (usually you never see the full credit with zimmer, elfman, giacchino...)And Williams supposedly orchestrated this score all by himself, or something like that was mentioned. They usually do not make emphasis on that.So it should have been 'music composed, orchestrated & conducted by John Williams'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 At least, it's not "Based on Music by John Williams". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Despicable that they've castrated his credits and made him seem equal to Zimmer scum. Obviously Williams is about to become the target of a systematic process of intimidation and manipulation by Disney in order to supplant him.eyeroll.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Where the hell is William Ross's credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 John Williams is 83, he's been sick this year and has undergone surgery.Now he simply... delegates.We should count ourselves very lucky to have a new Star Wars score composed by him, especially this year. Will Tasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I just plain don't like the cover. Needs more going on.I'll probably use one of the fan covers from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What about the Target cover with the photoshop collage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I just had to look that up... holy crap, that's even worse. It somehow makes it look tacky.I need a posted-style cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 The TFA soundtrack cover has been slightly changed, to enlarge Williams' credit (perhaps Disney was reading JWFan, and wanted to show their commitment to Williams and dispel suggestions that the cellar song writer would get all the publicity ):http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens/dp/B014V6JIQKWait until you see the inside. They've forgone liner notes in favor of collectible posters that form a gigantic mural of Lin-Manuel Miranda's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I just plain don't like the cover. Needs more going on.I'll probably use one of the fan covers from this thread.I need to try and track down that one fan cover that was posted here that made it look like the prequel album covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The omision of 'composed and conducted by' is very strange, all star wars films had that. If he did conduct parts of it, he is entitled to it, they can put additional conducting on the back cover.Also, the omission of 'composed by' diminishes his work, many composers who use collaborators to aid them are credited just like that. (usually you never see the full credit with zimmer, elfman, giacchino...)And Williams supposedly orchestrated this score all by himself, or something like that was mentioned. They usually do not make emphasis on that.So it should have been 'music composed, orchestrated & conducted by John Williams'....You're right, the composed and conducted credit is much better. I agree that the music by credit diminishes the maestro's work, in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediking12 1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I just plain don't like the cover. Needs more going on.I'll probably use one of the fan covers from this thread.They should use the movie poster for the album cover instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scarpia 132 Posted December 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2015 I need to try and track down that one fan cover that was posted here that made it look like the prequel album covers.Here it is. Cerebral Cortex, Jediking12, Bilbo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You're awesome, Scarpia. Thanks mate. Scarpia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Always glad to be of help.I liked the work on that cover. The poster cropping is done tastefully. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'd really like to see the cover of "The Art of The Force Awakens" as a CD cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Good choice!Who knows? Maybe that will be the cover for the not-so-distant expanded 2CD release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'd really like to see the cover of "The Art of The Force Awakens" as a CD cover.Yeah, it would be cool if they featured something like that, or this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I still believe the original intent was to pay homage to the Star Wars vinyl album cover but then someone decided it wasn't eye-catching enough and needed cartoon stars and colors other than black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I agree with you. The homage intention is clear to me, and those decisions you point out were surely "orders from above". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It looks fine. I really like this cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediking12 1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I need to try and track down that one fan cover that was posted here that made it look like the prequel album covers. Here it is.Better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Too cluttered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I like the plain cover and even the Target cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The omision of 'composed and conducted by' is very strange, all star wars films had that. If he did conduct parts of it, he is entitled to it, they can put additional conducting on the back cover.Maybe they thought "Music Composed But Only Partially Conducted By Williams Due To Back Problems" wouldn't look very good on the cover. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Apparently, Williams no longer gives a shit about crediting William Ross for conducting. The pacemaker changed him. Like Borg implants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Apparently, Williams no longer gives a shit about crediting William Ross for conducting. The pacemaker changed him. Like Borg implants.More machine than a man? Surely not. He would not go calling people "angel baby" if he was heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I still believe the original intent was to pay homage to the Star Wars vinyl album cover but then someone decided it wasn't eye-catching enough and needed cartoon stars and colors other than black and white.This whole thing is turning into one giant homage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 the omission of 'composed by' diminishes his work, many composers who use collaborators to aid them are credited just like that. (usually you never see the full credit with zimmer, elfman, giacchino...)And Williams supposedly orchestrated this score all by himself, or something like that was mentioned. They usually do not make emphasis on that.So it should have been 'music composed, orchestrated & conducted by John Williams'....Ugh. These posts make residence here very difficult at the moment. Just take a moment to listen to yourself, get some perspective in life. Yikes! I agree that the music by credit diminishes the maestro's work, in a way.But no, it doesn't. Unless you're a massive anal retentive prone to anxiety attacks over absolutely nothing. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Block them out. All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hangover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 the omission of 'composed by' diminishes his work, many composers who use collaborators to aid them are credited just like that. (usually you never see the full credit with zimmer, elfman, giacchino...)And Williams supposedly orchestrated this score all by himself, or something like that was mentioned. They usually do not make emphasis on that.So it should have been 'music composed, orchestrated & conducted by John Williams'....Ugh. These posts make residence here very difficult at the moment. Just take a moment to listen to yourself, get some perspective in life. Yikes! I agree that the music by credit diminishes the maestro's work, in a way.But no, it doesn't. Unless you're a massive anal retentive prone to anxiety attacks over absolutely nothing.Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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