#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Man so much pomp and circumstance from SONY for a crap release...Missed opportunity again!It actually hurts. Man so much pomp and circumstance from SONY for a crap release...Missed opportunity again!Not a missed opportunity. Sony didnt have any opportunity to release anything new. It was never gonna happen this year guys. It's been stated time and again now. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 It makes you wonder to whom exactly such a release is aimed to, actually. Even Star Wars fans who are not into film music as much as us are probably waiting for more prequel music to be officially released, so they're going to be disappointed as well. The fancy LP boxset will probably be enough to tickle several collectors' compulsion, but it's gonna be quite expensive. The reappearance of the OST assemblies for the original three is enough to push the nostalgia button for some, but in that sense it would be nice to have those available as single items. Anyway, every SW and JW fan has those in some format already, so it's not like it's really something we were waiting for. The big risk is that this thing won't sell as much as they'd love to, so they're gonna have so much unsold stock for years and this perhaps won't push Lucasfilm to plan further soundtrack re-releases for at least the next few years. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Spot on, Maurizio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The fancy LP boxset will probably be enough to tickle several collectors' compulsion, but it's gonna be quite expensive.For some of these collectors the price will actually be an indication of quality rather then something that would put them off. It fits with the whole retro vinyl hipster scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Interresting for ESB to have, at last, the montages "Heroics of Han & Luke" and "Rebels at Bay" that where on the original LPs! But if I understand well, this version of ESB will only be available on the LPs and the Digital Collection, right?And brand new transfers taken from the original LP Masters, that could sound fine!That's the only new things I see there.Sorry to quote me, but as I said earlier, the song list of the Digital Collection on iTunes indicate for the moment that they will use the LPs content.That means brand new transfers taken from the LP Masters.This IS new.62 Episode V - Star Wars (Main Theme) John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 63 Episode V - Yoda's Theme John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 64 Episode V - The Training of a Jedi Knight John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 65 Episode V - The Heroics of Luke and Han John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 66 Episode V - The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 67 Episode V - Departure of Boba Fett John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 68 Episode V - Han Solo and the Princess John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra69 Episode V - Hyperspace John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 70 Episode V - The Battle in the Snow John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 71 Episode V - The Asteroid Field John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 72 Episode V - The City in the Clouds John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 73 Episode V - Rebels at Bay John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 74 Episode V - Yoda and the Force John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 75 Episode V - The Duel John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 76 Episode V - The Magic Tree John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra 77 Episode V - Lando's Palace John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra78 Episode V - Finale John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 It is interesting how little value members here place in Williams' original score releases for Star Wars and TESB.Depending on the price I'm certainly considering them as a high res download. staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Well, I already own Williams original SW and TESB programs... on LP. And SW on 2CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 IMHO, the original SW double LP program flows very well and it's surely a great presentation. TESB is lovely too, but it works much less better than SW--some of the edits are really jarring and too arbitrary to my ears. I think much of its "legendary" status lies more within the fact it's been unavailable for many years and we only had the scant 40-mins version available.That being said, the OT works best in complete form for all three films, imho. The whole narrative arc and the inner musical architecture of each score are so much more fleshed out in that format. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Agreed on all counts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Well, I already own Williams original SW and TESB programs... on LP. And SW on 2CD.Do you own the LP programs legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Wha? What do you think, I robbed a store?I'm saying that I own the original LPs, from 1977 and 1980 respectively. The actual vinyl records, in the full original sleeves and covers.I would never use the word "own" to talk about illegal bootleg files. Are you mental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have the SW 2-LP, but not the two sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I would never use the word "own" to talk about digital files. Are you mental?Never bought anything from iTunes or a site like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 No, never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I own the original LPs of the original trilogy, but SW and TESB are actually signed by Williams, so having modern backups of the records to preserve the originals would be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Do you goons actually have record players to play your LP investments, or did you just throw away money for the point of collecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I had an LP player when I bought vinyl's of Star Wars in the mid 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 OK then. I only own one Williams on LP, Temple of Doom, but its case has seen better days. I used to have a USB turntable, but my ex kept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I didn't spend a ton of money on my SW and TESB 2LP sets, I think maybe $4-$5 each, like 15 years ago or something.And no, I don't own a turntable and don't plan to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 In those days LP's were seen as worthless and went for next to nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 No, never.You clearly not a man of your time.Just bought Davel Pell 2011 Fresh Sound Records compilation on iTunes.That's really my kind of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If Jason doesnt want to spend money on compressed music when he can get it on disc in higher quality then I certainly don't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 To date the only piece of film music that's only available digitally and not on pressed CD that I really want is Giacchino's Cloverfield, Toy Story of Terror, Tilton's SimCity and its expansion, and the bonus tracks from the 20th Anniversary Jurassic Park release. I will be patient and wait for those to come to CD some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Compressed as in loud or compressed as in lossy? staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Lossy. iTunes doesn't sell lossless music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I've given into iTunes twice: A bonus track from DW, and some of Breaking Bad's score.Other than those, only buy something digitally as a last resort. There's very little sense of ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 That's why I don't like it. On my hard drive, there's little difference between some file I bought and some file I illegally downloaded.With CDs, I either own the plastic or I don't. And I've been building my film score CD collection since 1994, and I will continue to build it as CDs until they stop pressing them. staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Agreed. I will consede that digital files can be in higher resolution and therefore better sound then CD's. But they still lack the satisfaction of having bought something tangible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I don't need that satisfaction. But then again, I think I've lost interest in buying and managing my soundtrack collection. I just don't have the time anymore. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I had a period a few years ago when I bought a lot of digital albums, and I soon regretted that. I now buy them physically when I find them for a few £s on ebay.The one exception I made recently was The Homesman. The CD was pricey at the time, but I could get it in lossless from Qobuz for £8, and I don't like it in its entirety (large parts are a bit dull) so I could live with that. Will I regret that at some point in the future and buy the CD cheaply? Probably. But it was also a choice between waiting 2 weeks for the CD, or an immediate download which sounds identical.I also buy individual flacs from Qobuz for random songs I like, where it's clearly not worth buying the whole CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 You physical media people are so behind the times. You don't own the music you buy - you're just renting it! And the shelves your CDs are cluttering up could be better used to display an arty ornament or a vase of flowers instead.I just ripped all my CDs to my phone and threw them all in the trash. Who needs 'em? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 No you didn't. You spent loads of money on a second hand Jaws 2, and even more on the Friday The 13th box set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Vase of flowers? Flowers die and aggravate allergies! The purchase of plastic discs only serves to exacerbate our consumption of fossil fuels, pushing us to either improved fuels and consumer products or to a worldwide dark age! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I only paid what it cost at LLL for the Friday box, which wasn't much since the AUD was strong at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Man so much pomp and circumstance from SONY for a crap release...Missed opportunity again!It actually hurts. If the CD versions don't feature the content of the useless LPs and lossy digital downloads (here's hoping for high-res versions!), then we've got a serious problem. Or if, for instance, the remastering is bad. That is a cause for concern. But this is actually a big deal for many of us who have been waiting years for the original album versions of these scores to be reissued. Well, Jedi basically sounds perfect on the original 1983 RSO CD pressed in West Germany. Indeed, it's never sounded better. Still curious to hear what they've done with it. The original Star Wars album as pointlessly presented on 2 CDs in a thick jewel case sounds raw. Again, curious to hear what they've done with it. As for Empire, sound quality has always been dubious on CD, with the LP version clearly having the best overall mix and most pleasing sound. It would be nice to retire the LP transfers and classic truncated CD version. staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (...) Jedi basically sounds perfect on the original 1983 RSO CD pressed in West Germany (...)Now Imagine with a new transfer from the LP Master... staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Better than perfect? staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 People who are destined to be bad parents should use that philosophy and just buy picture frames for display and keep the stock photos of kids in them. That photo will never need a diaper change and quit college on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,090 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'am a collector and only recently have started collecting LPs. Mostly for nostalgia sake as I like the Jackets too. I still do not have a turntable to myself but when the budget allows me I will make the investment. But before that I need to upgrade from PS3 to PS4! Only recently I paid $100 + shipping for the rare OOP Sealed copy of DCC's RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK LP. ( I had friend send me his VInyl rip in lossless for me to enjoy in the meantime time) I already have EMPIRE OF THE SUN, SUPERMAN, and the original OST LP of RAIDERS which I picked off from Amoeba store in LA some 4 years ago!. Listening to analogue has its own charms. While the higher fidelity realms is definitely in the CD/ Blu ray medium, I'll say. Both EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and STAR WARS have been on my want list for quite some time. So this whole new re-mastered VINYL set will be eyed with great interest. staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'am a collector and only recently have started collecting LPs. Mostly for nostalgia sake as I like the Jackets too. I still do not have a turntable to myself but when the budget allows me I will make the investment. But before that I need to upgrade from PS3 to PS4! Only recently I paid $100 + shipping for the rare OOP Sealed copy of DCC's RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK LP. ( I had friend send me his VInyl rip in lossless for me to enjoy in the meantime time) I already have EMPIRE OF THE SUN, SUPERMAN, and the original OST LP of RAIDERS which I picked off from Amoeba store in LA some 4 years ago!. Listening to analogue has its own charms. While the higher fidelity realms is definitely in the CD/ Blu ray medium, I'll say. Both EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and STAR WARS have been on my want list for quite some time. So this whole new re-mastered VINYL set will be eyed with great interest.I'm such a nerd, I read your last line "Will be eyed with great interest" in Palpatine's Voice when Palpatine says to Anakin in Ep.1 - "We will watch your career with great interest" staccato and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Any more info on if the CD's will contain the same material as the vinyls? staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 At this point, I'd have to imagine the Amazon listing is correct, meaning it contains the 1997 SEs again, and not the original LP configurations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Yeah and that makes perfect sense considering Sony's well-known laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 That would be stupid and a missed opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I don't have a list handy. I think "Rescue of The Princess" is the most noticable one, if I recall correctly.Chris Malone's wonderful analysis Recording the Star Wars Saga has all the answers. Balahkay and staccato 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't have a list handy. I think "Rescue of The Princess" is the most noticable one, if I recall correctly. Chris Malone's wonderful analysis Recording the Star Wars Saga has all the answers.That is an excellent resource and wonderful read. Definitely worth checking out. staccato 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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