Gurkensalat 340 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 After living with my B&W CDM 7NT plus CDM center, and older B&W Matrix 1 as surround speakers for many years I finally bought a new set of loudspeakers this spring after extensive searching and listening. After owning them now for more than 8 months, I can say: My 25 year long quest for an authentic reproduction of live musicians in my living room has come to an end. I bought a set of Ohm Walsh speakers and am more than happy: 2x2000 for the mains, 1 Microwalsh Center and 2 Microwalsh Surrounds. These speakers do need a lot of burn-in time (I could directly compare new versus older speakers of the identical model, the latter sounded much better!), but then they really do the trick of vanishing and projecting a realistic aural picture of the recording venue. In comparison conventional speakers like my B&W, while good speakers with precise imaging, give only a pale, rather 2-dimensional imitation. With the Ohm you really believe to "see" the instruments in the recording room. I cannot recommend them enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The RT-707 by Pioneer or when Hi-Fi was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Anyone else bi-amping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Steef, that looks likes a very impressive piece of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 So many imputs! Phoawww! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 And you can plug an external amplifier if you want a bit of a power boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 More! More power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 You want me to talk about my equipment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @Stefancos Steef, if your amplifier is a bi-amp, do you have bi-wired loudspeakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Steef, if your amplifier is a bi-amp, Yes it is. 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: do you have bi-wired loudspeakers? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Look at those tweeters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Cor blimey, right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Steef, if your amplifier is a bi-amp ... Aren't most AV receivers suitable for b-amping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Depends i guess. My previous ones weren't. You lose the ability for 7.1, which I have no interest in. Good amp. Sounds nice and full at moderate volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Price? Anyways, I'm still considering to purchase the Marantz CD6006. I don't really like the design, but what's under the hood is supposed to be good. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Price? It was second hand, but €700 originally i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Okidoki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I'm placing bids on this one as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Haven't heard from Teac for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I've posted some pics of a Teac TN-300 turntable a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Very stylish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Þekþiþm said: Haven't heard from Teac for a long time. That's because you didn't call her back, Casanova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Ghosting women that you've slept with is generally the easiest way to get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Who's the sexiest young celebrity, these days? These three! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Ghosting women that you've slept with is generally the easiest way to get rid of them. Concurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:41 AM, Stefancos said: Yes it is. Star Trek: The Motion Picture font? Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Why else would he have bought them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 No, i'm the one who added that text in that font. I bought them because they were big. Speakers need to be big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Well, this should not be the only reason to buy a speaker, but some physical limits in small speakers are difficult to overcome, so size helps. Here a picture of the Ohm Walsh 2000 which I really can´t recommend enough for their "live" character. On the right the cover is removed to show the omnidirectional driver unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Looks weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Looks weird. Well, just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Stop being so PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Grill needs to be bigger on those! Can they bi-amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Hmm, yeah. This Ohm Walsh speaker pictured above, has a frequency response of 40 to 20,000. Is that low enough? Some speakers go as far down as 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 You won't be able to hear most of HanZ' music, which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hmm, yeah. This Ohm Walsh speaker pictured above, has a frequency response of 40 to 20,000. Is that low enough? Some speakers go as far down as 25. Do you always judge speakers on their technical specifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It's the first thing to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hmm, yeah. This Ohm Walsh speaker pictured above, has a frequency response of 40 to 20,000. Is that low enough? Some speakers go as far down as 25. I just looked it up: Frequence response is 32 Hz to 20000. That is lower than the lowest tone (E) of the contrabass. And below that there is by no means a steep falloff. Room tends to enhance those low frequencies, too. I have room acoustics correction in my Anthem receiver which measures frequency response in room first before correcting. It is more or less linear down to 20 Hz in my room. Most music sounds perfect with only those speakers, including John Williams. For extremely low organ I sometimes add the SVS subwoofer that I have running for the Home Theater configuration, for more room shaking fun. But the bass of the Ohm is really sufficient on its own, full and present. 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Grill needs to be bigger on those! Can they bi-amp? No. Would be useless with one driver for all frequencies. 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's the first thing to consider. I agree, but it is only a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's the first thing to consider. It's a fool's approach because it doesn't say anything about quality or whether you like the sound or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: It's a fool's approach because it doesn't say anything about quality or whether you like the sound or not. That's something to consider after you've identified acceptable specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 They need to be big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Amateurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 What do you have, Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Do you always judge speakers on their technical specifications? Not always, but I find it a good first indication of their performance. 10 hours ago, Gurkensalat said: Frequence response is 32 Hz... I must have researched the wrong speakers. Apologies, etc. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Gurkensalat said: No. Would be useless with one driver for all frequencies. Then how does Tannoy do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Not always ... So sometimes you will trust your ears over the specs? It seems to me many people buy speakers as if it's a computer or a smartphone. Numbers on a sheet mean nothing in audio. I understand that 'features' are an important factor but 'specs' don't tell you anything about the sound, the imaging, the character, overall quality, etc. 16 hours ago, Stefancos said: What do you have, Alex? My main speakers are Dynaudio C1 (first edition). Don't know the specs, never cared for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Þekþiþm said: Then how does Tannoy do it? No idea. I mean, the idea behind bi-amping is to have separate amplifiers for tweeter and lower frequencies, right? So how would you do that here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I'll never buy a pair of loudspeakers without listening to them several times, and in multiple setups, and not before all the equipment has warmed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Recently, I got myself AKG's K702 Reference headphones (well, those were actually a belated birthday present from my wife ) and a FiiO E10K USB DAC/amp. The resulting combination is magical, after 10+ years of using K272HD, I'm again hearing things I've never heard before. With all film music, classical and jazz stuff in my collection it's mostly like REALLY listening to (and hearing things) for the first time. I'm in love! Definitely recommending either of those two to anybody who might be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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