justaguy 68 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Chewy said: And seems like he listened to other Williams' scores as well. Hope I'm not the only one hearing a real similarity between: Nice find! Also this example seems pretty similar if we are onto "War of the Worlds": Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,385 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Oh yeah, so I guess "War of the Worlds" was his inspiration for his "original tracks" DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 call me crazy but I prefer Giacchino. he at least molds his own style with Williams rather than aping him completely (I find it amusing when people call his new Imperial theme a parody when you have something like Scariff Loading B which is incredibly similar to the March on the Jedi Temple). that being said it does sound nicer at times and is more technically proficient, but when it comes to enjoyment I prefer Rogue One. however, this could be an unfair comparison since I have a strong attachment to the source material and this wasn't scored to accompany a specific scene so it's less 'gripping' by nature I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 36 minutes ago, DarthDementous said: call me crazy but I prefer Giacchino. he at least molds his own style with Williams rather than aping him completely (I find it amusing when people call his new Imperial theme a parody when you have something like Scariff Loading B which is incredibly similar to the March on the Jedi Temple). that being said it does sound nicer at times and is more technically proficient, but when it comes to enjoyment I prefer Rogue One. however, this could be an unfair comparison since I have a strong attachment to the source material and this wasn't scored to accompany a specific scene so it's less 'gripping' by nature I guess. I don't think anyone is saying this music would be better suited for Rogue One. We can't really compare the 2 scores equally anyways. The demands on and expectations for the music are totally different. Gordy Haab just does a good JW SW imitation is all and it works well for Battle Front. justaguy and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, artguy360 said: I don't think anyone is saying this music would be better suited for Rogue One. We can't really compare the 2 scores equally anyways. The demands on and expectations for the music are totally different. Gordy Haab just does a good JW SW imitation is all and it works well for Battle Front. exactly, gotta look at what each composer was trying to do in order to judge them on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 It's all well and good saying it's pastiche, which of course it is, but if we were on the YouTube comments section now, under some John Williams Star Wars music or some such, we'd of course see the same accusations of pastiche and unoriginality levelled at Williams' own music, and it's similarity to Holst. There's no way on good earth Haab is as good Williams, but I still think there's the usual double standard going on here in regards to the sound of their music tbh. The usual chain of boring elitism (of which Williams and his film music don't sit at the top of that pyramid to begin with). End of the day, Williams is as guilty of pastiche as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Thats not completely fair. We Talk about pastiche when Someone composes music consciously based on Williams material. To date, Williams has never done a franchise where he is not the 1st composer, in other words he has never had to pastiche from a previous film score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 No, but he's 'pastiched' to temp music a few times. Very well established classical pieces. This is the double standard I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 We probably have different definition of pastiche. For me it is when one composer has to use the themes of other composer because its the same franchise. Tomorrowland, Jupiter ascendind, John Carter, etc... = no pastiche Rogue one, MI:III, M:I Ghost protocol, Speed Racer, Jurassic World = pastiche Superman II-> The gold standard of pastiche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 My understanding of pastiche is it means aesthetics, style. Not quite direct homage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yea, Quint is right and Luke is using the wrong definition of pastiche if he thinks those scores represent it Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 More refined writing than Giacchino, but credit where credit is due Gia doesn't put me to sleep. Can we get Gordy's chops and Gia's panache? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea, Quint is right and Luke is using the wrong definition of pastiche if he thinks those scores represent it Ok, my mistake. I suppose Mcneely's Indiana Jones and the phantom train of doom qualifies. (And JPIII to a degree. Definately Superman II, right? is it not a pastiche made from Superman the movie??) Haab's music is the same constantly quoting williams passages. WIlliams does not do that even if he is following a temp track. I mean he can quote a passage... or compose en entire piece that resembles somthing but compose a track contantly mixing pieces of classical music? Never heard that sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 A week or so ago, Gordy Haab posted the Rogue One: Scarif Suite to his Soundcloud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 He recently released his Death Star and Scarif suits. Some very intersting references to the Prequels in there (including a section in the Death Star Suite that reprises the Droid Battle from TPM and a section in the Scarif Suite that references "The Falcon" from The Force Awakens.) justaguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I like it. Nice Williamsisms in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 10/05/2017 at 10:55 PM, Gistech said: A week or so ago, Gordy Haab posted the Rogue One: Scarif Suite to his Soundcloud: interesting how the little theme he brings in sounds similar to Giacchino's Jyn Erso theme. it's all very pleasant to listen to but it falls into the usual trap that his Star Wars work outside SWTOR has, essentially sounding like a remix of John Williams or another one of his Star Wars works. I'm pretty fluent in his KOTFE and KOTET expansion work for SWTOR and I did hear a lot of similarities, I just feel like its a case of it feeling like an imitation rather than another style that builds off the musical language of Star Wars like Jeremy Soul's KOTOR 1 or Mark Griskey's KOTOR 2. I still get a kick out of it though because I appreciate the Star Wars musical aesthetic greatly, hopefully if he does come back to score Star Wars Battlefront 2 now that there's an actual campaign we should get more interesting work out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 The score is available on Haab's SoundCloud: Pieter Boelen and Jacck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 Quote ‘Star Wars: Battlefront’ Game Music Set for Release on Walt Disney Records (EXCLUSIVE) Gordy Haab’s award-winning scores for the video games “Star Wars: Battlefront” and “Star Wars: Battlefront II” are about to be released by Walt Disney Records. “Battlefront” is slated to hit digital retail and streaming services at midnight Eastern time tonight, 9 pm Pacific time; “Battlefront II” will land on Feb. 5. The first “Battlefront,” released in 2015, won Music of the Year and Best Interactive Score at the Game Audio Network Guild (GANG) awards, while “Battlefront II,” from 2017, won Video Game Score of the Year at ASCAP’s Film and Television Music Awards. Both scores were performed by the London Symphony Orchestra and the London Voices choir. These original game soundtracks serve as audio companion pieces to the popular games and have been long sought by fans of the franchise. “Battlefront,” from Electronic Arts Inc., DICE, Criterion Software and Lucasfilm, is an immersive first-person and third-person shooter game that challenges players to fight for either the Rebellion or the Empire. The sequel “Battlefront II,” from Electronic Arts, DICE, Motive Studios, Criterion Software and Lucasfilm, features characters from every era and involves epic space battles both online and offline. Said Haab: “I consider composing the original score for EA’s ‘Star Wars: Battlefront’ series one of my greatest accomplishments. Creating new music for a game with such high expectations was a colossal task, only made more daunting by my own passion and desire to pay honor to my favorite franchise. And for this reason, I poured a lifetime of love into every note. As did the orchestra who performed it – and every person who helped bring the music to life.” Added Steve Schnur, president of music for Electronic Arts: “Gordy Haab brought his own aesthetic to ‘Star Wars: Battlefront’ and ‘Star Wars: Battlefront II,’ while at the same time honoring the most iconic film music in history. Watching him bring these scores to life in the same studio and with the same orchestra that was used to record the original `Star Wars’ has resulted in remarkable music that fans are finding just as timeless. These soundtrack albums are the proof.” Haab’s other “Star Wars” game scores include “Star Wars: Fallen Order” (2019) and “Star Wars: The Old Republic” (2011), both also GANG award winners, and “Kinect Star Wars” (2012). He has also written music for such other games as Microsoft’s “Halo Wars 2″ and Activision-AMC’s “The Walking Dead.” https://variety.com/2021/music/news/star-wars-battlefront-game-music-release-dates-1234894898/ The new OST for 1 is already on iTunes NZ or AU https://music.apple.com/nz/album/star-wars-battlefront-original-video-game-soundtrack/1549747358 https://music.apple.com/au/album/star-wars-battlefront-original-video-game-soundtrack/1549747358 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 So, are these any good or they just a pastiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 I gave the OSTs a try when he put them on Soundcloud and I was not very impressed. A lot of people on JWFan like em though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Good, good. I like them, and with an official release I won't be falling foul of EA's EULA if I use this music in my game mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I'm guessing the Fallen Order soundtrack did relatively well then. Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was assuming it'd just be Gordy's Soundcloud albums, but it appears they're a bit different... and contain more music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 175 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 This is going to be great! I'm loving that we are getting all this fantastic Star Wars music officially released. I love Gordy's material despite my criticisms that he copy pastes JW a little too much for my liking. I can't resist more Star Wars music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I'm still waiting for it to show up on 7Digital (or something similar) in the US. I'd like to get a lossless copy as opposed to settling for an iTunes copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artus_grayboot 77 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, artus_grayboot said: !!! I just went through the game and got a taste of Haab's stuff. Jesus Christ I thought he backed off on his plagiarism in recent times to upgrade to superficial pastiche, but then stuff like SoroSuub Skirmish plays Seriously at that point why even bother writing anything at all? I wonder if any of the LSO players had an existential crisis and questioned the linearity of time from the amount of deja vu they experienced while recording this. Some of the later dramatic cues are pretty nice and sound more "authentic" as far as actually conveying something instead of sucking his gut in a desperate attempt to be "Star Wars Williamsy" at the expense of all else. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 The album for BF1 can now be purchased (lossless) at Qobuz.com: https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/star-wars-battlefront-gordy-haab/ia9wv37cvxeia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 English links for purchase: UK: https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/star-wars-battlefront-gordy-haab/ia9wv37cvxeia US: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/star-wars-battlefront-gordy-haab/ia9wv37cvxeia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 So how does the new album compare to the old Soundcloud album? 1 Walker Assault 6:05 2 Pale Blue Orb 6:45 3 Survivors of Endor 6:26 4 SoroSuub Skirmish 8:50 5 The Imperial Advance 5:38 6 The Battle in the Clouds 6:23 7 Jundland Wastes 6:27 8 Approach to Landing Pad 13 9:36 9 Rebel Resistance 6:35 10 Fully Armed and Operational 7:40 11 The Graveyard of Giants 8:57 12 Jedi on the Battlefront 6:07 13 Attack! 1:53 TOTAL TIME - 87:00 https://open.spotify.com/album/3QSV1jMUUJ2baFCfq8YIgG?si=LJ5pO13fRy2-k5KlsZgn1ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-naDgBMbAo&list=OLAK5uy_k0yKvlUubRfnvQbX1Gxy1uovsM7dp3YPkhttps://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/star-wars-battlefront-gordy-haab/ia9wv37cvxeiahttps://tidal.com/browse/album/170510247https://music.apple.com/us/album/star-wars-battlefront-original-video-game-soundtrack/1549747358https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TR9JYWP/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Picked this up today with Wandavision, and to the back of my considerable music backlog it goes. Might be a "fool me twice" situation since I really didn't care much for the Fallen Order album (Squadrons was better, but maybe by merit of relative brevity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Got to listen to this one. @mstroxAgreed. Fallen Order is a bit too long at my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jay said: So how does the new album compare to the old Soundcloud album? Some new material, a different track order, and a new mix. 01. Walker Assault (Jedi Main Theme) 02. Pale Blue Orb (Hoth Suite) 03. Survivors Of Endor (Endor Suite) 04. SoroSuub Skirmish (Sullust Suite) 05. The Imperial Advance (Imperial Suite) 06. The Battle In The Clouds (Previously unreleased) 07. Jundland Wastes (Tatooine Suite) 08. Approach To Landing Pad 13 (Scarif Suite) 09. Rebel Resistance (Rebel Suite) 10. Fully Armed And Operational (The Death Star) 11. The Graveyard Of Giants (Thirty Year War Suite) 12. Jedi On The Battlefront (Dark Jedi Suite) 13. Attack! (Previously unreleased) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks for that! What are you thoughts on the new mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Less dynamic range, slightly clearer highs. It's probably is marginally better to be fair. But if I hadn't looked at the waveforms, I probably wouldn't have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 The album format is much better than Fallen Order's. This isn't all the music written for the game, right? How much is missing if not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, SilverTrumpet said: The album format is much better than Fallen Order's. This isn't all the music written for the game, right? How much is missing if not? All we're really missing is the Victory/Loss/Draw stings and hero entrance and exit stings, and since those are reprises of existing material (especially since the hero stings are direct JW quotes) it's not a big loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 There was about ~2 hours of original music written for the game; the stingers (victory/defeat and character intros/outros) take up a small portion of that. So this album does contain most of the music, but it's still missing a small amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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