Bespin 8,480 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well, that's a big news.Hope he is okay now.Does that mean that there will be no more concerts or directing? Now we need two separate discographies: one for music Williams recorded without his pacemaker, and one for music he recorded with his pacemaker.Good one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So he conducts with a metronome in his heart? How's he keep the beat straight? He just follows the drummers like every other conductor, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I predict he'll conduct all of The BFG.I also predict he won't score Star Wars 8.I don't share your optimism. If a pacemaker implies no more strong efforts , well it means for a 83 year old man, at least no more directing of fast music or for a too long period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well, that's a big news.Hope he is okay now.Does that mean that there will be no more concerts or directing?Now we need two separate discographies: one for music Williams recorded without his pacemaker, and one for music he recorded with his pacemaker.LOL! Sounds like classic "Bespin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I predict he'll conduct all of The BFG.I also predict he won't score Star Wars 8.I'd be very happy with TFA being his Star Wars swan song. However, I'm still holding out hope for maybe Williams co-composing with someone like Giacchino for Episode 8 and then letting Giacchino do Episode 9 alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 "letting"? John Williams doesn't make these decisions, Kathleen Kennedy and the director of each film do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I predict he'll conduct all of The BFG.I also predict he won't score Star Wars 8.Why don't you think he'll score Episode 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just a feeling I have. He has to do The BFG and Ready Player One for Spielberg, and then his Jennifer Lawrence film too. Will he be able to fit in Episode 8 for Rian Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 The BFG will sadly be his last score, mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think more like unable to work, not dead. Of course it is only a guess. We are obviously lucky enough to get a Star Wars score, let alone The BFG (if we get it that is, you never know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I predict he'll conduct all of The BFG.I also predict he won't score Star Wars 8.I don't share your optimism. If a pacemaker implies no more strong efforts , well it means for a 83 year old man, at least no more directing of fast music or for a too long period of time.He obviously conducted at least part of TFA.Listen people, the purpose of a pacemaker is to improve a person's condition. He probably feels better and more able after having the pacemaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Once and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Enough with Giacchino!Mike Verta or death!Marty O'Donnell or death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Listen people, the purpose of a pacemaker is to improve a person's condition. He probably feels better and more able after having the pacemaker Alright, I'm definitely getting one!Does Apple make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Man, so much ruckus.It's been a rough year for Williams, health-wise. But I'm sure he's in good shape! He'll likely be reducing his scoring obligations. So that probably means TFA will be his last SW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 "In The Force Awakens Williams uncharacteristically made extensive use of a pacemaker, which was installed before the sessions, enabling the conductor to direct the orchestra in time with the film. It hardly inspires spontaneous expression, yet the players remain upbeat about the recording process, with some joining the orchestra specifically to take part in the Star Wars legacy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Enough with Giacchino!Mike Verta or death!Agreed on the Giacchino part. I've said this many times before, but I don't like the composer's music, and I don't like the way he gets every big franchise film. I pray to the film score gods that neither Giacchino nor Desplat will be involved (Desplat is already doing one of those spin-off movies, and that's enough).I also don't necessarily think the task should go to Williams "imitators" like McNeely, Verta, Kaska, Debney, Griskey, Pearce etc. Rather, I want a more original composer voice who nonetheless can incorporate Williams' themes in their music.I guess all will be revealed in due time. Heck, Williams might feel so good now, he even decides to do no. 8 himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think it depends more on scheduling and the director's "want"s, then it does Williams' "want"s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's too early to know whether he'll do VIII or not. My guess is that if things are as they are now, he will do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think it depends more on scheduling and the director's "want"s, then it does Williams' "want"s.Scheduling yes, but if given the opportunity to use Williams, I can't see how any director would refuse that -- especially not for a STAR WARS film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well I cannot read Rian Johnson's mind so I have no idea.His cousin Nathan scored all his other films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,276 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm fairly confident that if Williams doesn't do VIII, his replacement will not be Nathan Johnson... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 That's probably true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm fairly confident that if Williams doesn't do VIII, his replacement will not be Nathan Johnson...LOL! (no offense to Johnson, btw, who's done some fine stuff -- LOOPER is fascinating!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Here's all the upcoming Spielberg and Star Wars films2015-10-04 Bridge of Spies - Thomas Newman2015-12-18 Star Wars Episode 7 (JJ Abrams) - John Williams2016-07-01 The BFG - John Williams2016-12-16 Star Wars Rogue One (Gareth Edwards) - Alexandre Desplat2017-05-26 Star Wars Episode 8 (Rian Johnson) - ???2017-12-15 Ready Player One - John Williams2017-??-?? It's What I Do - John Williams2018-05-25 Star Wars Han Solo (Lord & Miller) - ???2019-05-?? Star Wars Episode 9 (Colin Trevorrow) - ???Even though It's What I Do will be filmed after Ready Player One, it could come out before - like say, in the summer of 2017, which would conflict with Episode 8. Unless JW gives it to Newman and scores Episode 8 instead. But then he'd need to score Ready Player One right away after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Enough with Giacchino!Mike Verta or death! Agreed on the Giacchino part. I've said this many times before, but I don't like the composer's music, and I don't like the way he gets every big franchise film. I pray to the film score gods that neither Giacchino nor Desplat will be involved (Desplat is already doing one of those spin-off movies, and that's enough). Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 GAME OVER MAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Desplat will take over the franchise and Thor gets ulcers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Only John Debney could do justice to Williams' legacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 He finished doing that in the 80's. Now he legacies Lisa Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that I don't think this will put that much of a strain on JW's professional activity (although I don't really know how demanding conducting is, but that's a relatively small part of his time).Conducting a live concert can put serious pressure on the cardiovascular system. Several conductors have died on the podium (e.g. Sinopoli in 2001). Karajan was worried about it and once had a team of physicians monitor him during a session to measure the stress levels. Apparently the stress of a conductor exceeds that of an aeroplane pilot during the landing.I imagine though that recording sessions are much less demanding than actual concerts. If something goes wrong during a recording, you just repeat the take and lose some time. Perhaps Williams will stop doing concerts now.Does Apple make them?Their pacemakers would probably stop working a few days after the 3 year warranty runs out.In any case, having a pacemaker doesn't mean you're at death's door. If fact, pacemakers are a reliable means of helping people live longer and are constantly monitored. It would be worse to not have one when you need one. The sky isn't falling, yet.In fact, if things were so serious that he is expected to die soon, they might not even have done the pacemaker operation to begin with.Anyway, I blame Spielberg. Letting Williams conduct portions of CE3K and E.T. without a click clearly messed up Williams's rhythmic balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 There's a pun and a photo montage waiting to be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Man, so much ruckus.It's been a rough year for Williams, health-wise. But I'm sure he's in good shape! He'll likely be reducing his scoring obligations. So that probably means TFA will be his last SW score.GOOD!And after JJ Abrams, THIS will likely be the LAST STAR WARS movie EVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 That's not only unlikely, it's absolutely impossible. There will be a whole slew of them in the next decade. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 "Bullet Zooms" on the Falcon?Puh-f*cking PLEEZE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I'm not trying to be a smartass but... are you for real? Sharkissimo and Koray Savas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sharkissimo and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2015 There's a pun and a photo montage waiting to be made Sharkissimo, Jay, crumbs and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mverta 15 Posted October 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2015 This post brought to you by Google Alerts...1) I won't be scoring any of the Star Wars spinoffs because nobody's going to ask, but:2) If I did, I wouldn't do a "Williams" thing, anyway, because: a) It's not necessary, not even if one wants to incorporate the classic themes b) People who barely know my work think all I do is an impression of one of his flavors anyway, which is untrue but something I don't need to be encouraging. c) John Williams. That said, I do appreciate the support I'm doing my best to train younger guys on the stuff I was schooled in, so the art of long-form, symphonic writing for film isn't lost to nostalgia and history. But there ain't much call for that these days... _Mike Once, tedfud and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 b) People who barely know my work think all I do is an impression of one of his flavors anyway, which is untrue but something I don't need to be encouraging.If that was a reference to my post above, I can assure you that I know you do other things than Williams pastiche. I just think you do it extremely well -- maybe the best of the composers who've tried it. So if pastiche was a goal of the filmmakers, you'd be one of the hottest go-to guys. I just happen to think that one should strive for a more original voice with its own set of trademarks if and when the time comes that Williams is not able to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I think it depends more on scheduling and the director's "want"s, then it does Williams' "want"s.Surely directors and producers have more than a say in this, but I believe Williams has a kind of first option deal when it comes to Star Wars, i.e. if he really wants to do it (and feels he has the energy to do it), he will score the sequels nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,999 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Some people seem to think its not possible for a man to have both a pacemaker AND back problems!I mean - come on!That's just greedy!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Surely Disney will decide, not Williams or any director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Kathleen Kennedy will decide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 She always had it in for JW! You can just feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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