Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 You caused more damage than that goddamned thing did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Man they’re gonna show every major plot moment in these trailers and not leave any surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 I can't make out a plot from all that chaotic editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Yeah that kind of concerns me. I’ve read some reviews from people who have seen it already and they admit it’s not as structured as the 2014 film. I know Jeff Bond’s comments at FSM are a bit concerning to me because I usually see eye to eye with his reviews / posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 What I meant was the trailer is edited so chaotically, it's not even spoiling me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Oh I know, but I’ve also heard that the film is like that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 Historically, the studio revealing a shitload of footage in the lead-up to a film's release isn't a good sign. This happened with Independence Day: Resurgence when Fox pretty much dumped almost the whole movie on YouTube in the form of clips. Could it be that the Forbes projection of a $50 million opening weekend has panicked the studio a bit, so WB/Legendary are resorting to desperate measures? That projection suggests the mainstream anticipation for this movie is tepid at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, El Jefe said: Oh I know, but I’ve also heard that the film is like that as well. There is no way the movie is gonna be edited like 1 second scene per 1 second scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Yes I know, I was referring to the chaotic, fast break nature tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 The prominence of that kid from Stranger Things in the marketing has me bracing for stupidity. I hope the movie isn't trying to snatch the teenage girl demographic that watches The CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Imagine complaining about plot in a Godzilla film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 For a $180 million + budgeted film with a good group of actors, I do expect more. Otherwise you might as well just grab a group of B actors from the sci-fi channel with pair them with people in rubber suits and miniatures on a $10 million dollar budget if you wanna go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It's a remake of japanese kaiju movies with Hollywood budget special effects. Plot is not even secondary. Chill. Wrong expectations in the wrong place. Having a thin Plot doesn't mean you need to stick people im rubber suits destroying plastic models. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 I expect a simple story from a Godzilla movie anyway. Even some of the Toho ones got a bit too ambitious and convoluted for my liking. My concern was I hope they're not trying to target the little girl demographic by casting a prominent one and making this movie all girly and shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 We're not seein' this stinker for the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Spend the $60 and blow up another Klingon ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Haw haw haw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wojo 2,453 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 4:32 AM, The Original said: The prominence of that kid from Stranger Things in the marketing has me bracing for stupidity. I hope the movie isn't trying to snatch the teenage girl demographic that watches The CW. I'm not watching The 100 to get in touch with my inner teenage girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I wanted this movie for 20+ years. Godzilla with great realistic special effects. I don't give a toss about anything but the visuals and the music. The biggest mistake is overthinking Godzilla movies. Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Macgkgyver is a Drax creation?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 One of my army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Th--the army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 A more alarmist name would be the Killbot Factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Empire magazine barely had any credibility anyway (4 stars for Independence Day Resurgence, srsly?!), but now it's dry as a crusty booger. Their reviewer gave KotM 1 star because it was "glib" on climate change, unfuckingbelievable these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Matt, you're glib. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, The Original said: Empire magazine barely had any credibility anyway (4 stars for Independence Day Resurgence, srsly?!), but now it's dry as a crusty booger. Their reviewer gave KotM 1 star because it was "glib" on climate change, unfuckingbelievable these people. Ahaha, weren't they one of the magazines hyping it up in the first place? Seems a particularly scummy move to build a movie up just to knock it down. Then there was the guy who said it was worse than the 1998 film. The 'consensus' (if it can be called that at this early stage of barely 40+ reviews) appears to be 'too much monsters, not enough humans'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gistech said: The 'consensus' (if it can be called that at this early stage of barely 40+ reviews) appears to be 'too much monsters, not enough humans'. So a reversal of their main 2014 bitch, but still a mark against it. These eggheads are really living up to the pencilneck academic stereotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Original said: So a reversal of their main 2014 bitch, but still a mark against it. These eggheads are really living up to the pencilneck academic stereotype. You'd think, after the 2017 Last Jedi debacle, where they lathered praise on it like it was the best thing since the wheel and the audience trashed it, they'd be more cautious about going against the audience grain, but they continue to do it. Critic reviews clearly no longer hold the same weight they used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gistech said: You'd think, after the 2017 Last Jedi debacle, where they lathered praise on it like it was the best thing since the wheel and the audience trashed it, they'd be more cautious about going against the audience grain, but they continue to do it. Critic reviews clearly no longer hold the same weight they used to. I'm actually fine with bad reviews, especially if it looks like critics are evenly divided on a film. It suggests the filmmakers took risks and weren't necessarily interested in pandering to everyone's taste. Consequently, it might be one of those "either you love it or you hate it" movies. My issue is with that damn "tomatometer", where a film's popularity with general audiences hinges on this one number, influencing people to decide whether they're going to see it based on that simple piece of reductionism. The big mistake people make is they think a 52% tomato score means it's only half a good movie, so just skip it, completely forgetting that it just means half the critics didn't like it. Or at least that's how the aggregator algorithms present it. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Original said: I'm actually fine with bad reviews, especially if it looks like critics are evenly divided on a film. It suggests the filmmakers took risks and weren't necessarily interested in pandering to everyone's taste. Consequently, it might be one of those "either you love it or you hate it" movies. My issue is with that damn "tomatometer", where a film's popularity with general audiences hinges on this one number, influencing people to decide whether they're going to see it based on that simple piece of reductionism. The big mistake people make is they think a 52% tomato score means it's only half a good movie, so just skip it, completely forgetting that it just means half the critics didn't like it. Or at least that's how the aggregator algorithms present it. Fair point. The trouble is that these aggregators do nothing to clarify their purpose either. They're more than happy to be seen that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Also, it only divides reviews into "good" and "bad". And some of them are actually "kind of positive" or "bad but able to recognise some strengths". That is why so many Disney films receive high scores -- they're simply inoffensive enough. It's not a conspiracy, just an over-simplification. One of my favourite films in recent years had a 59% score. Karol Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, crocodile said: Also, it only divides reviews into "good" and "bad". And some of them are actually "kind of positive" or "bad but able to recognise some strengths". That is why so many Disney films receive high scores -- they're simply inoffensive enough. It's not a conspiracy, just an over-simplification. One of my favourite films in recent years had a 59% score. Karol 3/5 to me would be a positive review but on rotten tomatoes it can go either way. There’s no real consistency. It’s an awful site crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,468 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 So I just came back from this. A few words about my GODZILLA relationship first. I didn't grow up with the Japanese films like so many of you, and have no nostalgic connection to them. I think I might have seen a few scenes in the 80s and 90s, but that's about it. So when I saw Emmerich's GODZILLA (1998), I loved it -- and still do. Same with Edwards' GODZILLA (2014). I had loved Edwards from the MONSTERS movie, and was amazed how he used those visionary qualities in a big blockbuster. It has a very poetic quality, almost, with the long-distance shots, the slowness of the editing and movements etc., observing from a distance, playing with audience expectations of what happens off-screen etc. It was one of my favourite films in 2014. So enter this new one. Gone is any kind of visionary qualities. Michael Dougherty is no Gareth Edwards. This is a more straightforward monster action movie, clearly intended to set up the Legendary Monsterverse more than having any kind of self-contained quality. Now, the action/monster sequences are expectedly epic and impressive, but the rest leaves a lot to be desired (including an embarassingly executed ecological message). A definite step down, I thought. Bear McCreary's music has a few highlights, primarily the choral colours. But 90% of it is generic, loud, bombastic action music that more often than not get swallowed by the sound effects. There are references to Ifukube's GODZILLA theme and a few others that I won't mention, so as not to spoil. I'll give it 3 of 5 stars on MUBI, although it's more like 2.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm starting to understand why the professional critic elites loved the 2014 film, it appealed to their more interpersonal dramatic sensibilities by essentially being a big budget indie flick. Naturally, Michael Dougherty staunchly riding in the opposite direction to create a film full of bravado, swagger and something closer to how his boyish imagination desired a Godzilla film to be is nothing short of offenthive to limp-writhted chardonnay eliteth. Plus I think American critics just don't care for monsters unless they're part of the backdrop and they're stand-ins for some metaphorical dramatic mumbo jumbo. Plus, the whole concept might be a bit too foreign to them, stopping just short of xenophobia. I'm seeing it 3:30 tomorrow, and I'm expecting a rollicking good time. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,468 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I can't speak for any other critics, obviously, but it's true that I prefer blockbuster films with more of an auteur mark. Something that sets it apart from the other, dime-a-dozen action extravaganzas. That's certainly not something I'm embarassed about. But yes -- I have no doubt you'll have a rollicking good time. It does fulfill that particular criterion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Plus Godzilla is a hero to many of us. Much like a superhero like Batman, Superman, Captain America, Jason Voorhees, etc. So a movie like this promises to be particularly special to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original said: Plus Godzilla is a hero to many of us. Much like a superhero like Batman, Superman, Captain America, Jason Voorhees, etc. But more realistic and relatable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I enjoyed the film immensly. I think certain critics expected too much from it - the idea that a movie about giant monsters beating each other up should have a cerebral nature is like saying you watch Spider-Man for the scientific analysis of how he makes web fluid. There was that one critic who said it was worse than the Emmerich attempt and even attempted to justify that by saying that Zilla had more screentime (he had 13 vs Godzilla's roughly 30 mins in this film). I have to vehemently disagree with that point of view. I'll definitely have to book a second viewing. Also, Legendary Godzilla could totally take on Shin Godzilla in an even fight now. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gistech said: Also, Legendary Godzilla could totally take on Shin Godzilla in an even fight now. 2019 Godzilla is actually bigger than Shin Godzilla! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, The Original said: 2019 Godzilla is actually bigger than Shin Godzilla! Heh, I wasn't just referring to his size. I can't say more without spoiling the film though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Gistech said: Heh, I wasn't just referring to his size. I can't say more without spoiling the film though. Don't worry the toys and trailers have already spoiled that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 And it looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, El Jefe said: Don't worry the toys and trailers have already spoiled that moment. They spoiled Fire Godzilla sure, but not what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Gistech said: They spoiled Fire Godzilla sure, but not what he does. King Kong has left the chat Giftheck and Ollie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Quote They spoil Fire Godzilla sure, but not what he does. Cool. I’ve got my tickets for a IMAX showing on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Looks like I will wait for this on redbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 This review is hilarious! (Non-spoiler) And very reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Bob Chipman? Isn't he The_MovieBob on Twitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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