filmmusic 1,822 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The previous teasers handled this much better, imho. Here it sounds more like generic trailer music with the occasional SW theme quote thrown in.Ι completely agree!I even doubt if Williams himself did it..it doesn't sound like him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Obviously he didn't do this final product, no. He could have done the new arrangement of Han&Leia and the Force Theme, though, before someone else took it and further altered-it and trailer-ized it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thats why I asked for this thread to be moved.Ricard stupidly disagrees though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Stefan, let the moderators do the moderating. That's not your job. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I am entitled to PM either Ricard or you with a request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I bet there's piano ruminations underscore in this. Just you wait!You care to make it interesting?Fiver via PayPal, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 https://mobile.twitter.com/UrsineVulpine/status/656385734891446272Does anyone know this guy?"So incredibly proud to announce I contributed to the music on the newest Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,326 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 https://twitter.com/UrsineVulpine/status/656385734891446272 EDIT: Ninja'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 @aliarikan hi there! I worked on the second half! 1:20 onwards— Frederick Lloyd (@UrsineVulpine) October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Frederick Lloyd is the new Mike Verta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Not at all to join the griping about the music in the trailer, I thought it was effective, but isn't it a little laughable that someone worked on the "second half" of a fucking trailer? Ye gods. Talk about composing by committee. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,242 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Obviously he didn't do this final product, no. He could have done the new arrangement of Han&Leia and the Force Theme, though, before someone else took it and further altered-it and trailer-ized it.I think that's exactly what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Not at all to join the griping about the music in the trailer, I thought it was effective, but isn't it a little laughable that someone worked on the "second half" of a fucking trailer? Ye gods. Talk about composing by committee.Funny, coming from someone who defends RCP's "composing by committee" policy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Obviously he didn't do this final product, no. He could have done the new arrangement of Han&Leia and the Force Theme, though, before someone else took it and further altered-it and trailer-ized it. I think that's exactly what happened. It's certainly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,242 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thats why I asked for this thread to be moved.Ricard stupidly disagrees though.Why stupidly? I gave you the reasons. You didn't even bother to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Story checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Not at all to join the griping about the music in the trailer, I thought it was effective, but isn't it a little laughable that someone worked on the "second half" of a fucking trailer? Ye gods. Talk about composing by committee.Trailer music usually isn't about composing, it's essentially cutting and pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Perhaps everything from 0:00-1:20 was previously done by JW for a prior trailer but unused, and this Lloyd guy beefed up some ideas for the parts from 1:20 onward with synths and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Not at all to join the griping about the music in the trailer, I thought it was effective, but isn't it a little laughable that someone worked on the "second half" of a fucking trailer? Ye gods. Talk about composing by committee.Funny, coming from someone who defends RCP's "composing by committee" policy!You need some new anti-TGP material. The RCP/Zimmer stuff has run dry…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Perhaps everything from 0:00-1:20 was previously done by JW for a prior trailer but unused, and this Lloyd guy beefed up some ideas for the parts from 1:20 onward with synths and stuffThe overamped piano came from JW? You really think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The one-key-at-a-time piano from 0:08-0:48? Hmm probably not, but isn't that right out of the last teaser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So this guy did the Force theme arrangement. Interesting, but I can't see why you would need more than one guy for a 2 minute trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Easy - if the part up until 1:20 was already worked on by some other guy for a prior trailer (but wasn't used) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The one-key-at-a-time piano from 0:08-0:48? Hmm probably not, but isn't that right out of the last teaser?I'm sorry, i just don't think anything from the trailer comes directly from Williams. Ive been listening to him for a few decades now and I don't hear it. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 But the music from the very first teaser was from Williams, was it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Wasn't it established that the piano notes were added by the additional composer? I don't remember his name, the same who added the drums and the trailer-y sounding music on top of Williams' music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sounds right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Not sure if this notion belongs here but, from the trailer, it looks like Williams was given a lot in which he could play around in musically, which is very exciting. As for the music in the actual trailer, the use of Han and Leia's theme is fantastic, as has already been stated by most on here, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 But the music from the very first teaser was from Williams, was it not?Yes, and you can hear that its John Williams music. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The music may not be written by JW but it is still a pretty decent arrangement of existing themes. I actually really like the horns blasting out the Force theme and Luke's theme at the end was lovely. I'd like that cue to be released someday.I admire this guy's enthusiasm, but it isn't new JW music. I also don't hear the Duel of the Fates reference he mentions http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/10/20/star_wars_the_force_awakens_trailer_premiered_new_john_williams_music.html crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I agree Fenton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 This is definitely not John Williams' music or arrangement, it's not his style.Either way the music itself was good for the trailer, but I felt sorry for the horns. 4.2/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Does anyone else not give two shits who wrote the trailer music? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Does anyone else not give two shits who wrote the trailer music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The one-key-at-a-time piano from 0:08-0:48? Hmm probably not, but isn't that right out of the last teaser?I'm sorry, i just don't think anything from the trailer comes directly from Williams. Ive been listening to him for a few decades now and I don't hear it.For once, Stef might be right. This seems tailored by a trailer house or three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 @Woj: But if it was Williams, surely you wouldn't be saying that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,359 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The music may not be written by JW but it is still a pretty decent arrangement of existing themes. I actually really like the horns blasting out the Force theme and Luke's theme at the end was lovely. I'd like that cue to be released someday.I admire this guy's enthusiasm, but it isn't new JW music. I also don't hear the Duel of the Fates reference he mentions http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/10/20/star_wars_the_force_awakens_trailer_premiered_new_john_williams_music.htmlWell he also states that the trailer opens with a new theme. It doesn't. All of the initial piano and the beginning of the orchestra from 0:08 to 1:05 are chords from Han Solo and the Princess. It's kind of like how John Ottman used fragments of Can You Read My Mind before playing the full theme in Superman Returns.I love it. It gives me chills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The one-key-at-a-time piano from 0:08-0:48? Hmm probably not, but isn't that right out of the last teaser?I'm sorry, i just don't think anything from the trailer comes directly from Williams. Ive been listening to him for a few decades now and I don't hear it.For once, Stef might be right. This seems tailored by a trailer house or three.Its Steef...STEEF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The one-key-at-a-time piano from 0:08-0:48? Hmm probably not, but isn't that right out of the last teaser?I'm sorry, i just don't think anything from the trailer comes directly from Williams. Ive been listening to him for a few decades now and I don't hear it.For once, Stef might be right. This seems tailored by a trailer house or three.Its Steef...STEEF!You really should probably just add that to your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Isn't the plinky piano the same used in this Dark Knight Returns trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 What's the theme in the first one minute of the trailer before the explosion of Han and Leia?It's also Han and Leia.Played real slow likeI don't hear it! I tried playing it on the piano but it doesn't sound the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,326 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sounded more like Princess Leia's theme to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,271 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The way the Cloud City motif is subtlety woven in when Boyega is on screen is a masterful way to hint at his parentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yeah, who would have thought this guy would have a kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The way the Cloud City motif is subtlety woven in when Boyega is on screen is a masterful way to hint at his parentageYes!I also loved how JW repurposed the Droids' motif for BB-8 when it briefly appears onscreen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I suppose it's nice that people are trying to write more about film music..... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I admire this guy's enthusiasm, but it isn't new JW music. I also don't hear the Duel of the Fates reference he mentions http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/10/20/star_wars_the_force_awakens_trailer_premiered_new_john_williams_music.htmlThis site really seems to attract a lot of those fans who have little clue of what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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