BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Alec who and Peter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Guinness and Cushing weren't the leads. Fisher and Hamill were basically unknowns while Ford had a smattering of small supporting roles. These were your leads, but casting famous actors opposite these youngsters helped give the story the credibility that this kind of fairy tale in space needed. Abrams already did it with the Star Trek reboot. The main cast is young and mostly unknown (of course Saldana, Quinto, Urban, and Pegg were known but not headliners in the States), but it's anchored by Greenwood, Nimoy, Ben Cross, Winona Ryder, and an unrecognizable Bana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Well, let's also not forget that Star Wars was perceived by many as a small, dubious sci-fi movie with a modest budget. Not the kind of movie most big stars would even consider starring in. I'm surprised Guinnes accepted the offer, to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The studio doubled his salary and he got 2% of Lucas' gross royalties, in exchange for not having to promote the film. Win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Paycheck acting :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Guinness and Cushing weren't the leads. Fisher and Hamill were basically unknowns while Ford had a smattering of small supporting roles. These were your leads, but casting famous actors opposite these youngsters helped give the story the credibility that this kind of fairy tale in space needed.Abrams already did it with the Star Trek reboot. The main cast is young and mostly unknown (of course Saldana, Quinto, Urban, and Pegg were known but not headliners in the States), but it's anchored by Greenwood, Nimoy, Ben Cross, Winona Ryder, and an unrecognizable Bana.Exactly! And most of the target audience didn't know who Guinness and Cushing were either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Guinness and Cushing weren't the leads. Fisher and Hamill were basically unknowns while Ford had a smattering of small supporting roles. These were your leads, but casting famous actors opposite these youngsters helped give the story the credibility that this kind of fairy tale in space needed.Abrams already did it with the Star Trek reboot. The main cast is young and mostly unknown (of course Saldana, Quinto, Urban, and Pegg were known but not headliners in the States), but it's anchored by Greenwood, Nimoy, Ben Cross, Winona Ryder, and an unrecognizable Bana.Exactly! And most of the target audience didn't know who Guinness and Cushing were either.In America, perhaps. In England Cushing was a familiar face from Hammer, which for many youngsters back then was a right of passage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The world is bigger than England. I was 14 and I didn't know him, even if I had seen him before. Anyway, he's not part of the main cast. "We’ve talked a few times about it and he said 'We’re putting together a cast of unknowns – we want to follow the ’77 New Hope cast because obviously Harrison Ford wasn’t well known at that point, Mark Hamill wasn’t and Carrie Fisher wasn’t either'…What he said was, 'We don’t want to fall into that mistake of people going 'Oh it’s that guy from that thing!' and then you’re completely out of the Star Wars universe.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The world is bigger than England.Where did I imply that England is the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 We did have an Empire once, the two become interchangable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The world is bigger than England.Where did I imply that England is the world?So you do agree? Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Right, as usual! I and the rest of the board stand in astonishment of your... greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Oh no, please, my modest character can't handle so much admiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I knew you'd object to my use of the "great" descriptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Anyone else wish that the villian(s) had absolutely nothing to do with the empire, or buidling an empire, or the remnants of the empire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sounds good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Something like Yuuzhan Vong, for example?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sadly, he is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I don't read or involve myself in the EU, so I'm sure there are examples of this, I just hope they don't box themselves in with another trilogy of films focused on the Empire coming back for round 2. It's like the second Death Star in ROTJ. Been there. Come on JJ, get creative. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 What if a ruthless intergalactic Mouse Emporium would like to franchise the galaxy far far away and make the whole galaxy a giant theme park. Mixor Mauseous could be the best villain ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I don't read or involve myself in the EU, so I'm sure there are examples of this, I just hope they don't box themselves in with another trilogy of films focused on the Empire coming back for round 2. It's like the second Death Star in ROTJ. Been there. Come on JJ, get creative.Yeah but what are the odds that he will? If he couldn't bring himself to do it with Star Trek, which he wasn't much of a fan of, how will he approach his beloved Star Wars?I wonder if the king of nostalgia has it in him to make his own mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I wonder if the king of nostalgia has it in him to make his own markWhat do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I'm dreading the Abrams lightsaber battles. All those lens flares will blind the Jedi. Darth Vader would kick ass with his built in sunglasses, but he's dead (so far). Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Why didn't Lucas just hire Kennedy, and Abrams, and keep the distribution rights with Twentieth Century Fox? Why sell (out) to The Mouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He wanted to be completely free of Star Wars and make experimental movies, because that's how he started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Is he going to complete his THX 1138 saga with the five remaining films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 THX 1138: The Surface People Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Where's my More-More American Graffiti and its three prequels?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I wonder if the king of nostalgia has it in him to make his own mark.Was that coincidence or intentional? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Coincidence. I don't pay homage to Marcus Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I wonder if the king of nostalgia has it in him to make his own mark.Was that coincidence or intentional? LOLYou need to get out more ... go observe the birds or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Why didn't Lucas just hire Kennedy, and Abrams, and keep the distribution rights with Twentieth Century Fox? Why sell (out) to The Mouse?I recently re-watched the Empire of Dreams doco on the 2004 DVD set and all Lucas could bang on about was maintaining his independence. When and how did this mindset change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 when he realised the is a mortal human and that star wars would live after him, and rather than let it struggle within the family and copyrights (see tolkien estate) he sold it to a strong company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 And he perhaps realised that his unstable daughter didn't have the chops to carry on his legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Why didn't Lucas just hire Kennedy, and Abrams, and keep the distribution rights with Twentieth Century Fox? Why sell (out) to The Mouse?He wanted to wash his hands clean and retire -- plus he likely did it because Disney had already licensed the Star Wars brand for those theme park rides. (And Disney is a powerhouse in terms of corporate synergy, merchandising and marketing.)I'm still curious as to how Disney cut out Fox from any financial involvement with the sequels. When I first heard that Disney acquired Lucasfilm, I thought Fox would still get their logo on Episode VII due to contractual obligations (yet that's not the case but Paramount will with Indiana Jones). Or that the two would share a similar distribution pact like they did on Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Disney's Alan Horn Says Star Wars: Episode VII is Already Shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Probably second unit stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 "It's all about the screenplay. It has to be screenplay, screenplay, screenplay."Someone tattoo this on George's forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 That and "Faster, and more intense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Now, that is both hynoptic and seizure inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I read that they're just filming plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Maybe there's a scene in a Greek restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I hear the villain is a Greek Sith Lord who doubles as a restauranteur; Darth Arkipopolis. It's all sigma-canon stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Have all the actors been cast?Please no Zac Effron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 In the video, Horn says that a lot of the cast is in place, but not all. Obviously no one knows what that means yet. We're all anxiously awaiting a casting announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 They don't need a cast yet. They can film the entire movie and green screen everyone in later. It's quite remarkable, modern moviemaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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