crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Admin note: For earlier news before JJ Abrams was signed, see Disney buys Lucasfilm and all subsidiaries for $4.05billion, will release Star Wars Episode VII in 2015J.J. Abrams is directing Episode VII So at least we know who's scoring it then. Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 What? He said he wouldn't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Gistech 311 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I don't mind, I think he did pretty well with Star Trek. However, I'll hold off on final opinions until Into Darkness comes out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Well, he's more suitable for this than for Star Trek, judging from 2009 film. Maybe it will be at least entertaining, if not good.Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fal J. M. Skywalker 1794 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 YEAH, BABY! The prophecy was true!!!"A prophecy, that was misread, could have been.....WHO THE HECK IS WRITING THIS CRAP, SPEAK RIGHT, CAN I NOT?"I hope it Giacchino does score this, that he can hold back is incessant desire to have an orchestra bang household objects against drumpads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stefancos 9656 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Meh..... 1 WilliamsStarShip2282 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gistech 311 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Given Lucas has creative input, I wouldn't be surprised if he at least made the request they try to get Williams first. But he's not exactly in the position to say "I won't have anybody else doing it" any more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 4859 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 So Giacchino will do this, meaning we won't get a new JW score, the entire movie will be lens flares and it will likely go against all the established canon.It could be good, but who cares if there's no John Williams score. Seriously. 1 Hedwig reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Gistech 311 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 So Giacchino will do this, meaning we won't get a new JW score, the entire movie will be lens flares and it will likely go against all the established canon.The former two are guesses at best. The latter two... as I pointed out, Lucas has creative input to an extent. And as for the last one... well, given the Prequels did just that anyways, it's probably true that it'll ignore some of the established canon. But story is entirely down to Lucas' outlines and the script writers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Þekþiþm 5450 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 It's the Star Trek/Star Wars crossover we've all been waiting for! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonesy 55 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 It could be interesting, but I find odd Abrams' decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Fal J. M. Skywalker 1794 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 If Giacchino does score this, I think it is time for him to get rid of Wallin.Hear! Hear!and hire Tomlinson/Botnick/Rhodes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 If Giacchino does score this, I think it is time for him to get rid of Wallin.A Wallin SW? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 1979 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I can't really imagine Giacchino doing this if Williams is available. Even if Abrams asks him and not Williams, I imagine Giacchino would refuse until Williams declines an offer.But if Williams isn't available and Giacchino ends up doing it, it could turn out great. At least if he returns from his dry Lost sound to a more lushly romantic setting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 If John Carter is any indication, he could actually pull this off very well.Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fal J. M. Skywalker 1794 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 If Giacchino does score this, I think it is time for him to get rid of Wallin.A Wallin SW? We need a horrified smiley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I want Mathew Vaughn. Why can't I get Mathew Vaughn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BloodBoal 7508 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 If John Carter is any indication, he could actually pull this off very well.Yes, that's exactly why I'm excited about this, since we probably would never have had/will never have a sequel to John Carter. 1 crocodile reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woj 2203 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Star Wars is dead.That being said, Abrams is a director I can get excited about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BloodBoal 7508 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 And Abrams is going to bring it back to life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 It was dead back in 1983, which is 30 years ago.Fortunately, zombies are fun!Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Doesn't Abrams get bored?What if... what if it ends up like his Trek films? Devoid of wonderment, superficially feeling serious and dark but filled with lots of dumb stuff and things like gratuitously jumping off a cliff that would kill you?No more of that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Besides, it's not like Star Wars was anything more than a product. Abrams is as suitable director as any. I'm sure the film will turn out better than the previous three. It's not bad news.Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 1979 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I want Mathew Vaughn. Why can't I get Mathew Vaughn?I love much of Eshkeri's Stardust, but base on that I can't imagine him coming up with a full Star Wars score. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Besides, it's not like Star Wars was anything more than a product. Abrams is as suitable director as any. I'm sure the film will turn out better than the previous three. It's not bad news.I'll hope it's more Super 8 than Star Trek.I want Mathew Vaughn. Why can't I get Mathew Vaughn?I love much of Eshkeri's Stardust, but base on that I can't imagine him coming up with a full Star Wars score.Me neither. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Brónach 367 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I didn't say Ilan Eshkeri, I said Matthew Vaughn. I have no idea who would score the film. Vaughn seems to get along with Henry Jackman too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Datameister 656 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Abrams would (will?) do a fantastic job as a director for the film...I feel pretty certain of that. But I'll avoid getting too optimistic if Giacchino ends up taking the reins for the score. While I think he's a great guy and he's written some amazing music, I find the only Star Wars work he's done to be...well, not very Star Wars-ish. I'm referring, of course, to the music he wrote for the Star Tours queue. IMO, the material is at its best when it's trying to sound not like Star Wars, but like a fresh Giacchino take on Star Wars themes. The galactic weather report segments are one example. But then there are other parts where Giacchino just recorded straightforward orchestral adaptations, and I find that the performance, mixing, and harmonic alterations all detract from the end product. I'd scared that we could end up with a score that sounds like that. Which is something I'm sad to say, since I know Giacchino had the best intentions with those recordings.Oh well. Whatever happens happens. And if Abrams is the director, I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the film. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fal J. M. Skywalker 1794 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 the material is at its best when it's trying to sound not like Star Wars.Then the only bad parts should be the Main and End Titles! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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crocodile 4053 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 the material is at its best when it's trying to sound not like Star Wars.Then the only bad parts should be the Main and End Titles! Williams personally approved those arrangements...Karol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Once 278 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 He probably changed his mind after reading Arndt's script. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not Mr. Big 2431 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 JJ Abrams probably the best choice for director. Even if there are a lot of lens flares, it'll still be more visually interesting than the prequels. The decision of who's going to score is probably all up to John Williams. Giacchino really respects him and would only score it if John Williams himself declines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 12372 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 The decision of who's going to score is probably all up to John Williams. Giacchino really respects him and would only score it if John Williams himself declines.Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 1979 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 My thoughts exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smeltington 317 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Cautiously optimistic about this news. The film, at the very least, won't be an embarrassment, and given an opportunity like this there's a chance Giacchino might step up and deliver something pretty special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeinAR 1215 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 Williams defined the sound of Star Wars. If Giacchino wants direct comparison here is his opportunity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK 2252 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 Michael Giacchino is no John Williams. So whatever hopes people have in comparing the two are rather useless. Never understood e who'd "he's the next Williams" thing anyways.And while he seems like the more obvious choice, I'm honestly not that excited to hear a SW score from Giacchino. I'd just feel like there'd be something missing. It's how I felt about John Carter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damien F 655 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 The decision of who's going to score is probably all up to John Williams. Giacchino really respects him and would only score it if John Williams himself declines.That sounds like a win win situation for me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick1066 1755 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 This job is Williams if he wants it, there's absolutely no doubt about that. I also think think there's very little chance JW will score Abrams Star Wars, for a variety of reasons. Clearly in that case Giacchino will do it.I think this is generally good news, for both Star Wars and Star Trek, as Abrams is a smart choice for SW but was a bad fit for ST. And I do hope it means the end of his direct involvement with Star Trek, I'm really not comfortable with one geek controlling both of these franchises..in fact I'm not even sure I like the idea of the same person scoring them. These are two worlds which really should'nt collide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 4859 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 Even before we can attempt to get anything good out of this, Lucas needs to stay the hell away or we'll get his influence ruining this just like it contributed to ruining Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The most he should influence this:1. John Williams does the music2. No lens flares, in fact dump your DP altogether3. No computer generated cartoons everywhere4. Nothing from the prequels5. Raping Han Solo and all characters from Star Wars, Empire and Jedi is strictly forbidden6. No Shia or any of these shitty popular modern actors7. No awful storylines that don't make any sense and/or plot holes everywhereThat will never happen, so I'm going to go ahead and predict we're screwed, but I'd be ecstatic to be wrong 1 Hedji reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not Mr. Big 2431 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 My problem with Giacchino is that his music never really soars. It's always light hearted and emotionally barren. This might be due in part to Wallin's infamous mixing but I think there's something missing in the compositions themselves. 2 Hedji and Marcus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbellamy 3688 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 6. No Shia or any of these shitty popular modern actorsShia was Spielberg's idea, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 6024 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 If Spielberg was the guy responsible for JJ getting hired, I imagine he'll be working behind the scenes to get JW to score the film, too. Just my two cents.If JW wants to do it, he'll be given the gig, that's for sure. Completely possible that he'll refuse or turn it down, though. But it would be nice to see his take on the SW universe in the hands of a more competent director; it could be something truly spectacular. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2015 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 Well if Williams doesn't score it, Giacchino might as well.There's no way it's going to be at the same level, but it'll probably be a decent score if Super 8 and John Carter are any indication. (I still dislike Star Trek to this day)I can't think of any other composer who can do these types of score nowadays. Desplat already proved an epic fail with PotterMy GUT feeling is that Williams will pass on this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
