Quintus 5,399 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The web wasn't anything huge at all then. It only went mainstream massive when social media websites became the dominant driving force and 'shared experiences'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Koray...Abrahams? A young director?The man is 47! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 i'm still curious about how are they going to explain the 30-40 hiatus between VII and VIII and still manage to completely ruin the expanded universe... i doubt they are going to adress the late fal of the empire (not insntantly after endor battle), the yuuzhan vong galaxy in crumbles, the rise and fall of Jacen solo, and whatever sith madness comes after that leaving the galaxy and the jedi order somewhat in ruins, much appart from the happy ending ROTJ gave us.Between VII and VIII? Do you mean between VI and VII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 i'm still curious about how are they going to explain the 30-40 hiatus between VII and VIII and still manage to completely ruin the expanded universe... i doubt they are going to adress the late fal of the empire (not insntantly after endor battle), the yuuzhan vong galaxy in crumbles, the rise and fall of Jacen solo, and whatever sith madness comes after that leaving the galaxy and the jedi order somewhat in ruins, much appart from the happy ending ROTJ gave us.I hope they are not pretending that nothing happened in the troubled galaxy for 40 years... and our loved heroes just aged in their cozy houses?Oh my...that may happen...and they are called from retirement because a new threat comes to the galaxy... after all...as stated in AOTC the galactic republic had not had a full scale war since its foundation. Darn. That would take 20 minutes of exposition to explain. I honestly hope they retcon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 This is the 7th entry in a 30+ year, mega billion dollar franchise. The film will have input from Lucas, Kennedy, Lucasfilm, Disney, etc etc that Abrams must fullow. Abrams is basically just at the helm of this mega machine. The executives will want a crowd-pleasing, summer blockbuster. Action, spectacle, and special effects will come first before story here. Anyone who thinks this will be any kind of relevatory film experience like the first Star Wars film was to so many in 1997 are just setting themselves for disappointment.Come on, where is the optimism. Have you also converted to the ever growing JWFAN pessimists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think the new Star Wars films will and SHOULD ignore all previously published Extended Universe stuff. They should just tell their own story about what happens in the Galaxy 35 years after the events of the OT.I suppose they likely have to technically fit into the Prequel Trilogy and Clone Wars tv shows and movie as well, but it'd be easy enough to tell a story that doesn't happen to have any references to all that pre-Episode 4 stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Koray...Abrahams? A young director?The man is 47!47 is still relatively young for a film director, but I think Koray meant "young" in the sense that Abrams is the youngest director to work with Williams, and the youngest to work on a Star Wars film. He was only 11 when Star Wars was released, so he may be more prone to nostalgia, as far as what he's going to want out of Williams's score. Hopefully not, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So you think they should trash The Courtship of Princess Leia? My god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Mrbellamy!Lucas was in his early 30's when he made Star Wars.JJ is not a new kid on the block. He's been part of the Hollywood establishment, as a producer, writer and director for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So you think they should trash The Courtship of Princess Leia? My god.The first EU book I read and loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I don't care about the film. I don't think there's anything particularly interesting to bring to the table anymore with Star Wars. And Abrahms helming the project doesn't it make it any less intriguing (like Chaac, i found Into Darkness kind if dull). I could be completely wrong of course, but in the meantime, colour me indifferent.I am looking forward to Williams' score of course--the only reason I sometimes bother opening this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The film will have input from Lucas, Kennedy, Lucasfilm, Disney, etc etc that Abrams must fullow. Abrams is basically just at the helm of this mega machine. The executives will want a crowd-pleasing, summer blockbuster. Action, spectacle, and special effects will come first before story here.Gee, this almost sounds like Bible prophecy..!It's a bit of a stereotypical, almost two-dimensional view on the sequel trilogy and J.J. Abrams' role.You REALLY know exactly how it's going to turn out? Really? Really..?I think the film has the potential to be something special with people like Kathleen Kennedy, Michael Arndt, J.J. Abrams, etc. developing it.It could suck, but to state things like IT WILL BE this and that is a bit absurd, on what side of the fence you are when it comes to Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 This is the 7th entry in a 30+ year, mega billion dollar franchise. The film will have input from Lucas, Kennedy, Lucasfilm, Disney, etc etc that Abrams must fullow. Abrams is basically just at the helm of this mega machine. The executives will want a crowd-pleasing, summer blockbuster. Action, spectacle, and special effects will come first before story here. Anyone who thinks this will be any kind of relevatory film experience like the first Star Wars film was to so many in 1997 are just setting themselves for disappointment.If Disney's acquisitions of Pixar and Marvel Studios are any indication, they leave their subsidiaries alone. Disney knows Kathleen Kennedy is a capable producer who knows how to keep productions on track and on budget. They'll have say in some things, like the release date and marketing, but they're not going to micromanage this. Abrams pretty much answers to Kathleen, and to a smaller degree, Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Mrbellamy!Lucas was in his early 30's when he made Star Wars.JJ is not a new kid on the block. He's been part of the Hollywood establishment, as a producer, writer and director for a while now.Not really. His first movie was M:i:III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Grumpy old folks... Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So you think they should trash The Courtship of Princess Leia? My god.The first EU book I read and loved.This one's good, too: http://www.amazon.com/dp/033394867X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Isn't that what Star Wars is? There are rollercoasters and rollercoasters. Was Star Trek Into Darknes one? Because I was bored to death.There's always enough going on in a JJ Abrams film but at the end of the ride I'm always left with a feeling of emptiness which I can only ascribe to sheer shallowness. Abrams' entertainment is so superficial that nothing sticks, not the characters, not the story, not the visuals. Everything evaporates into thin air the second it passes your eyes. Heck, maybe I'm not watching enough modern blockbusters. Hopefully there's a little more to gain from Gravity.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It's the modern blockbuster formula! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Saoirse Ronan confirmed that she did go audition for a role in Episode VII, but she added "so has everyone."http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/179499-saoirse-ronan-confirms-star-wars-audition-rumorShe couldn't say anything else, saying the bosses would cut off her head "with a light-saber." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 i'm still curious about how are they going to explain the 30-40 hiatus between VII and VIII and still manage to completely ruin the expanded universe... i doubt they are going to adress the late fal of the empire (not insntantly after endor battle), the yuuzhan vong galaxy in crumbles, the rise and fall of Jacen solo, and whatever sith madness comes after that leaving the galaxy and the jedi order somewhat in ruins, much appart from the happy ending ROTJ gave us.Between VII and VIII? Do you mean between VI and VII?Yes sorry That would take 20 minutes of exposition to explain. I honestly hope they retcon it. I think the new Star Wars films will and SHOULD ignore all previously published Extended Universe stuff. They should just tell their own story about what happens in the Galaxy 35 years after the events of the OT.Ok, start anew. 35-40 After endor.But are they going to say the galaxy was at peace for forty years or are they going to invent some other conflict that passed in between? Because if they are going to do that, they can well use the EU.They probably start retired and called to arms again. Shame.Indy did never retired...we just did not saw his adventures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Does a Jedi ever retire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well of course Luke is going to be a Jedi master... But leia and han cannot be at the miliary-goverment with more than 70 years.....or can they? (if no conflict are in the galaxy) In the EU they never stopped fighting...One thing is for sure... if they destroy the EU, they may stop re-printing the novels. So that may revalorize my complete collection of novels to unbelievable heights.Nice to know if someday i want to get rid of them (unlikely ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 whoever are responsible are not stupid, they are not going to stop the printing of novels that make them money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Han and Leia can't be still together. She's got to be an alcoholic, cynical, single mum with Han providing alimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The only thing from the Expanded Universe that would be essential to put in would be Kyle Katarn and possibly Mara Jade. The rest are mostly disposable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Does a Jedi ever retire?Forcibly.Han and Leia can't be still together. She's got to be an alcoholic, cynical, single mum with Han providing alimony.And Han is the President of the fucking United States of... the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well the Star Trek books aren't all part of the same continuity with each other or the shows and films. They can now claim the Star Wars continuity, which has been kept tight for decades, is under the same conditions. Royally diverged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Not canon though. Officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I still can't quite get "in touch" with this project.I guess it will remain this way until release day. I felt the same about KotCS. It's the feeling of having just one movie too much in a franchise.Mentally, I still put this into the same hazy category as Jurassic Park IV and Indiana Jones 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Lots of mature folks don't get in touch with today's mainstream films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Who says I'm mature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Well the Star Trek books aren't all part of the same continuity with each other or the shows and films. They can now claim the Star Wars continuity, which has been kept tight for decades, is under the same conditions. Royally diverged.Oh, they already created that. Star Wars Infinities label http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/InfinitiesProbably all the books will go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm 99% sure the current EU (at least the post ROTJ stuff) will be thrown out and that doesn't bother me. I'd much rather new films. I think like TCW the new fims will pay homage to the EU (Dathomir etc.) but not stick to it.Lucas hates Mara Jade and he wrote the story treatment so... Although she's been dead for some time I still can't imagine him doing something that involves her story in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,312 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The only thing from the Expanded Universe that would be essential to put in would be Kyle Katarn and possibly Mara Jade. The rest are mostly disposable. But what would those two have to do with a story set 35 years after ROTJ? There's no reason to mention them. And if they are mentioned, that would be all it is - a passing mention for the fanboys - like the Tribbles, Mudd incident, and Nurse Chapel references in Into Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He just read today that Hammil wanted Luke to have a Love interest in ROTJ. (from the making of the return of the jedi book) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Why would Lucas hate Mara Jade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 J.J. apologizes for lens flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why would Lucas hate Mara Jade?i dont know...maybe he always envisioned Luke as a lone hermit... in the future and he said that, and people extrapolated he hated mara jade. the internet is like that He could have told zahn to change the direction the relationship mara-luke was going just after the last command. he didnt and the relationship flourished for several years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't think Lucas had any involvement with the EU until NJO when he to kill Anakin Solo he may also have been involved in oking the death of Chewie but I can't say for certain . Over the weekend I'll try an find the Mara Jade hate. There was that Robot Chicken scetch as well. I think it is in the bonus features.I'll dig them out over the weekend but really Lucas has never really cared for the EU too much but as taken the odd thing (the name Coruscant and the character of Aayla Secura). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Sometimes I've imagined the prequel trilogy with Aayla Secura reinvented as the main villain throughout. You've got to find a way to stand in the charismatic shadow of Lord Vader somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 She's a cool character in the Star Wars Republic comic series. Although the series it evolved into (Dark Times) is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I read about the robot chicken mara jade thing i seth green said they did cut it because they wanted all to be about mainstream starwars...and yes, GL OKed about chewie. or so i have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'm sure this film will go its own way, maybe using an aspect or two from the books, like a planet or character name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't want a sequel trilogy full of references, for nothing more but cheap fanservice like the prequels had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'm expecting the new films will be full of nods and call backs to the original trilogy.Why else would you cast Carrie Fisher and Mark Hammil, who both look wrecked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 "It's a trap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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