Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 maybe Luke will have nightmares.or holo recordings.I dont think it will be a live character.It can't be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think it's a rumour. But I like the holo recording idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sith holocrons? Having KOTOR flashbacks here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It will probably be a nightmare that urges Luke to explore an ancient Sith planet-temple. where he discovers the a new threat to the galaxy since Palpatine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Luke will find the tombs of the Nazg...Sith and find it empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 A visit to the tombs on Korriban? That would be neat, especially if they capture the same atmosphere as in KOTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Luke will find the tombs of the Nazg...Sith and find it empty?They were broken from the inside. Dun DUn DUUUNnn! Mystery alert!Then Luke wanders aimlessly around the galaxy far far away spouting exposition and walking into a trap.A visit to the tombs on Korriban? That would be neat, especially if they capture the same atmosphere as in KOTOR.If the plot of the upcoming film is half as good as Kotor 1 then we have nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That game has always been the kind of Star Wars I want to see on the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That game has always been the kind of Star Wars I want to see on the big screen.Ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Even if the new film is a "sacrilege" on the scale of his Star Trek Into Darkness, it will still be entertaining.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Do Trekkies find ST09 or STID more sacrilicous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 I meant that in terms of how they re-used the mythology.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm a Trekkie and I dont find either sacrilicious. Of the two, Into Darkness has the deeper flaws though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well, they are great Star Wars films. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sacrilicious = sacrilegious (grossly irreverent toward what is sacred) + delicious (extremely pleasing to the sense of taste) The new Trek films are largely that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Not really.People always say that, but I've never thought they felt like Star Wars films, not really.Sacrilicious = sacrilegious (grossly irreverent toward what is sacred) + delicious (extremely pleasing to the sense of taste)The new Trek films are largely that.What is grossly irreverent about the last two? Moreso then the previous 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I never thought they felt like Star Wars films, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 They feel like more action oriented, sped up, geared at teenagers Star Trek films. Despite both films having their share of issues (mostly script related) they actually succeed very well at being Star Trek film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 They feel like more action oriented, sped up, geared at teenagersStar Wars!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 No, not at all. Star Wars has a completely different dynamic then Star Trek.Now will there be similarities between Star Trek (2009), Into Darkness and the new SW film? Probably. Same director.But I really suspect JJ will make something more in line with the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 No, not at all. Star Wars has a completely different dynamic then Star Trek.Now will there be similarities between Star Trek (2009), Into Darkness and the new SW film? Probably. Same director.But I really suspect JJ will make something more in line with the OT.Well, hope we can at least agree that he'll probably do a decent enough job on this one. He's got the right kind of skill set to make Star Wars hip again.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He loves revenge plots. Maybe some character who was an emperor fanatic acquires a new superweapon and wants to take revenge on the Skywalkers for killing his idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 JJ's Star Trek is not exactly what I'd call "in line" with the core ideas that make Star Trek what it is, the Roddenberry vision. But I don't dislike them for that; they're fun romps that have at least brought the franchise back into profitable territory. And I saw Kirk's speech at the end of Into Darkness as JJ/Lindelof sort of acknowledging this disconnect, and promising that whoever takes over the helm will likely do things in a more genuinely Trekky way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Adam Driver is nearing a deal to play the villain in 'Episode VII'Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE casting if trueHe stinks on Girls, and doesn't have the gravitas to play the villain in a major summer action blockbuster, let alone 3, let alone in a freaking STAR WARS movie.Hope it's a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yeah, but shave his head, paint him red and black, throw some horns on him, or just slap him in a cape/helmet. Have someone else do a voiceover. He'll be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Adam Driver is nearing a deal to play the villain in 'Episode VII'Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wasn't he also gonna be Robin in the Batman/Superman thing? Or Nightwing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Adam Driver is nearing a deal to play the villain in 'Episode VII'Who? He plays Adam on Girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ok. I've never heard of him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You're not missing anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 At first, I read "Adam Sandler".I thought: "Yeah, sure, why not?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He'd bring the Adam Sandler "goofy" voice to the galaxy, which is what it's always been lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm guessing he just has a really good agent. Every project that has come along recently his name is rumored, yet he's never cast. I guess his agent is just trying to get his name out there as much as possible, hoping eventually a producer will take a chance on him. Of the two episodes I watched of Girls, he was terrible in both so I really hope this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think he's terrible too - he's easily my least favorite character on the show. I suppose to be fair I never pondered much on how much is his acting vs how much is the writing, but either way, NOTHING about him says "major villain in a new summer blockbuster" to me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Waiting for someone to come up with the Heath Ledger argument... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yeah but did anyone really think Ledger was terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 He was a terrible Jack Nicholson. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 A visit to the tombs on Korriban? That would be neat, especially if they capture the same atmosphere as in KOTOR.Apparently (as per TCW bonus episodes) the Sith Homeplanet is now called Morriband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dumb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk_NvW9DIHc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 JJ's Star Trek is not exactly what I'd call "in line" with the core ideas that make Star Trek what it is, the Roddenberry vision. You know, I'm a hard core Trekkie. But Roddenberry's vision worked brilliantly on TOS, and that's about it.He produced TNG season one, and it's so bad that Paramount actually took the show away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm guessing he just has a really good agent. Well, that's for damn sure. In the last 18 months he's been cast by Spielberg, the Coens, and Noah Baumbach, and he's about to start on Scorsese's next. Wouldn't be surprised if this is true, at the rate he's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 JJ's Star Trek is not exactly what I'd call "in line" with the core ideas that make Star Trek what it is, the Roddenberry vision. You know, I'm a hard core Trekkie. But Roddenberry's vision worked brilliantly on TOS, and that's about it.He produced TNG season one, and it's so bad that Paramount actually took the show away from him.This is supposed to be the new OS. I think there is still potential in that vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Remember that Roddenberry changed his vision between the OT and TNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 But the core idea that it should be about exploration, in a physical and metaphorical sense, and that it should deal with sweeping themes, will never lose potential I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 As a huge fan of TOS and their movies, the main problem I have with the new Star Trek films is that they use the same characters but their personalities are not even close to being the same. This, of course, is explained by using a different timeline. Different events occurred in their lives, they were put on different trajectories, thus their personalities are different. I get that. They should have just used new characters, though, it makes it awkward otherwise. Without Kirk being grounded and experienced, his character doesn't have the same weight. I'm not a fan of the wise-cracking goofball. The most he did on TOS was a side-ways glance and a grin.Outside of that, I feel that Abrams and Co. did a fine job on the first film. It's still fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeshift Python 22 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Is it surprising? We got the goofy looking Cumberbatch playing Khan, so of course Abrams would go for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Goofy? Ol' Ben is the definition of dreamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Goofy? Ol' Ben is the definition of dreamy.Smart is the new sexy. Dude has a weird face, but certainly a quality actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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