Bellosh 3,407 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I saw this topic bumped and I got my hopes up. Why did I miss out on this release!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 5:29 PM, crocodile said: What is there to update though? Missing source music? Karol Its more a downgraded version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I'd actually be much more interested if they released the remastered OST part separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Simply redoing it with only Disc 1 would be the simplest, the OST is worse anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 9/24/2019 at 11:44 PM, crumbs said: Shamelessly bumping my own joke Pieter Boelen and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 15 hours ago, Holko said: Simply redoing it with only Disc 1 would be the simplest, the OST is worse anyway. Surprisingly, I found the film score presentation really boring, but loved the re-recording. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Why is that surprising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Having heard the OST first, he probably thought he'd like the score presentation as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Because that had never happened to me before, preferring an OST to a complete score release. Then again, this was my first re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 It's a very well made album. Once you've heard it 50 times, you'll check out the film score presentation again and enjoy all the new music in that that isn't on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 The OST is indeed a more engaging listening experience. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 The performances are weaker in places, the sound quality is not better, just a different kind of bad, it's missing representations of great cues, and some of the extensions don't work for me at all, like Promenade - it's a lovely bit of sillyness in the film score after we had a proper buildup and right before a catalyst event/cue, it's an irrelevant bit of bloat at double the length on the OST without much buildup, and similarly Out to Sea's greatness was in its brevity. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 There's nothing wrong with the sound quality of the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I bet Holko complains about the ET OST too, just because it's an OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: I bet Holko complains about the ET OST too, just because it's an OST. It sucks. It fundamentally misunderstands everything great about the score. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Now that's just mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 It's not even accurate. The E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial OST, like the Jaws OST, is a perfect summation of the score. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Indeed. Those two are up there among JW's strongest OSTs. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 He obviously hates John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,000 Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 Since there is nowhere else to put it... I love this so much. ❤️ Karol - huge fan of the channel GerateWohl, Gurkensalat, Smaug The Iron and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 512 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 11/17/2015 at 8:19 PM, Jay said: The remaining Spielberg/Williams/Universal titles are The Sugarland Express ET The Extra-Terrestrial Always Jurassic Park Schindler's List The Lost World I know which one I'd want next... This was almost 6 years ago and only one left to go. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 10 hours ago, crocodile said: Since there is nowhere else to put it... I love this so much. ❤️ Karol - huge fan of the channel Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Damn for a moment I thought that Intrada announced Jaws reissue as their Williams title. (Sigh of relief) Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Damn for a moment I thought that Intrada announced Jaws reissue as their Williams title. (Sigh of relief) Don't worry, they will reissue JAWS 2 first. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 As long as new fans or people who have missed it are glad it's good. But secretly and by being egoistic I want The Patriot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 3/15/2020 at 3:26 PM, Holko said: Simply redoing it with only Disc 1 would be the simplest, the OST is worse anyway. No it is not. The original soundtrack is a wonderful listening experience. John put all the best music on it. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Both are wonderful. I wouldn't want to be without both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 To make the confusion complete, they should rerelease the Jaws 2-CD release and then Jaws 2 as a single CD. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeinAR said: No it is not. The original soundtrack is a wonderful listening experience. John put all the best music on it. I was thinking the other day they could perform the whole thing live as one concert suite. Would love to hear that. It just flows so beautifully. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 The long awaited reissue of JAWS can finally be purchased! Seems like Intrada slightly adjusted the program and even added exclusive screensavers on disc 2, amazing! @crumbs Don't miss this one! crumbs, JoeinAR, Holko and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 hours ago, crocodile said: I was thinking the other day they could perform the whole thing live as one concert suite. Would love to hear that. It just flows so beautifully. Karol Ive heard Jaws in concert. Its always disappointing. No live rendition sounds as good as the OST. Its a rare oddity but true. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,118 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I had to chuckle at "the typewriter" in the art above. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 10:03 AM, Chewy said: The long awaited reissue of JAWS can finally be purchased! Seems like Intrada slightly adjusted the program and even added exclusive screensavers on disc 2, amazing! @crumbs Don't miss this one! What kind of dumbass release ist this?! They can't be serious about leaving off the Typewriter cue. Would have made for a well-rounded listening experience. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Hello there. I finally understood what they did on the 2000 Jaws Collector's Edition, yes it took me 21 years! So it's a compromise between a C&C presentation and a sequencing done by JW, for a better listening experience. Basically, it brings the "The Shark Cage Fugue" and "Shark Attack" cues at the beginning to avoid the listener to fall asleep. And there's also some edited tracks made with alt cues and whatever... Good idea, Mr. Williams! As I know, @Jay created a very usefull cue sheet for Jaws, so is it possible to recreate (not a 100%) the "2000" CD program, but using the 2015 cues, and without EDITING? Can someone post that playlist plz??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 01 Jaws - Main Title 02 The First Victim 03 Remains On The Beach 04 The Empty Raft 05 The Pier Incident 22 The Shark Cage Fugue 25 Quint Meets His End 08 Ben Gardner's Boat 09 Montage 06 Father And Son 07 The Alimentary Canal 10 Into The Estuary 11 Out To Sea 12 Tug On The Line 13 Man Against Beast 14 Quint's Tale 15 Brody Panics 16 Barrel Off Starboard 17 Great Chase 19 Three Barrels Under 20 From Bad To Worse 21 Quint Thinks It Over 23 The Shark Approaches 24 The Shark Hits The Cage 26 Blown To Bits 27 Jaws - End Title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Looks like a weird stupid program. Those climactic payoff cues thrown early with no buildup reek of those randomised OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 I agree with Holko. The Intrada disc 1 is perfect as is, and superior to the Decca program. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Holko said: Looks like a wise program done for a better listening experience by John Williams himself. FIXED. crumbs and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Bespin said: FIXED. I'm still convinced everyone who unironically uses "listening experience" uses it in a way that's completely opposite to what I'd normally think. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Well I guess if @Bespin always falls asleep while listening to the Intrada program, the 2000 program could indeed be a great solution ! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Get yourself an attention span if you can't get through a 50 minute masterpiece of a score. 3 minutes ago, Jay said: The Intrada disc 1 is perfect as is, and superior to the Decca program. And sounds better than Disc 2. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 15/07/2021 at 9:59 AM, Jay said: 01 Jaws - Main Title 02 The First Victim 03 Remains On The Beach 04 The Empty Raft 05 The Pier Incident 22 The Shark Cage Fugue 25 Quint Meets His End 08 Ben Gardner's Boat 09 Montage 06 Father And Son 07 The Alimentary Canal 10 Into The Estuary 11 Out To Sea 12 Tug On The Line 13 Man Against Beast 14 Quint's Tale 15 Brody Panics 16 Barrel Off Starboard 17 Great Chase 19 Three Barrels Under 20 From Bad To Worse 21 Quint Thinks It Over 23 The Shark Approaches 24 The Shark Hits The Cage 26 Blown To Bits 27 Jaws - End Title So you don't try to reproduce the version of the "The Great Chase" as it appears on the Decca disc? It's a montage with the alt intro, etc. The movie should be edited to match the Decca CD program. Quinn should die at the beginning of the movie, then the rest of the movie should be a flashback. Spielberg is a jerk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Geez I thought that was the new Intrada tracklist for a moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bespin said: So you don't try to reproduce the version of the "The Great Chase" as it appears on the Decca disc? It's a montage with the alt intro, etc. You asked for a playlist without editing Bespin and rough cut 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,118 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I was just thinking... this reissue has been a long time in the works. Do you suppose Mike Matessino is giving it a sonic upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 All I want is Disc 2 released separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 It doesn't work like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 All I want is a ”CD + USB”-release. 😉 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Andy said: I was just thinking... this reissue has been a long time in the works. Do you suppose Mike Matessino is giving it a sonic upgrade? Hmm... well, better masters did exist at some point for Jaws. But according to Mike, they no longer exist. They only had a 1/2" 3-track source for the film score cues in 2015. Courtesy of Jay's interview: Quote What was the specific recording technology and medium used for recording Jaws? It was 1/2” 3M stock containing three-track mix downs. They are not first-generation masters but were made at Universal from the recording elements done at Fox, which no longer exist. Hiss is something common on 1/2” and it seems to become more prominent as the tape itself starts deteriorating. And the multi-track masters of the album sessions are lost as well Quote What was the recording process and medium used for these sessions, and how was it different from the film tracks recording? Unfortunately we don’t know much about the process because no master tapes could be found. Because there was a Quadrophonic release we know that it wasn’t a live stereo mix, so there would have been multi-track tapes at some point. I was really hoping those might be found, but it was not to be. In fact, there is no tape element of any kind in the UMG inventory. The oldest element is the 1630 CD master made in 1992. Maybe a better source turned up in the last few years for the film sessions or the album sessions? Or Mike thought he could do a better job with the same elements from 2015? I'm holding out hope Intrada found a way to improve the album for a reissue, rather than removing 25% of the music. Who knows, maybe JW has mellowed on source music in the last 7 years and wouldn't mind including that omitted music for a reissue? Would that make the assembly sufficiently different for the AFM? Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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