Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It is from FSM from a Film & Film Music Journalist.Oui:International Film Music Critics Association member. Film & film music journalist for the French movie magazine Mad Movies since 1999. Contributor to the French edition of Soundtrack! from 1992 to its final issue. Film music reviewer for the French movie magazine L'Ecran Fantastique from 1989 to 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Yeah, I can't find much to love in Indy 4 but plenty in all of the prequel scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 All 4 films are terrible, but all 4 scores are good, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It is from FSM from a Film & Film Music Journalist.Oui:International Film Music Critics Association member. Film & film music journalist for the French movie magazine Mad Movies since 1999. Contributor to the French edition of Soundtrack! from 1992 to its final issue. Film music reviewer for the French movie magazine L'Ecran Fantastique from 1989 to 1993. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 and there is a beautiful heroic theme (heard only twice). Our first confirmation of unreleased musicNo it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Humor. It is a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You never know with KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm just assuming that the majority of people who have seen the movie are people who would regard symphonic music as elevator music and listen to Skrillex or Taylor Swift. We should probably just wait until actually JWFanners (as opposed to your average retard) have seen the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 where's thor?he was supposed to see the film hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 He's been brutally murdered by a Disney exec for being annoying. Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You never know with KM.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I definitely believe KM has happily relaxed himself into Shatner mode in his old JWFan tenure age. And why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The score sounds like a sub-INDY 3, in fact. I adore the three previous SW scores. Besides that, in his recent works, I loved War Horse, Indy 4 (kind of), War of the Worlds. Didn't care too much for the others. I'm not saying SWTFA is a bad score, far from it. But I was expecting something more epic. It's propulsive, but it's more based on action and speed than it is on thematic development. And the march of the Resistance is really, really disappointing. But all Rey's music is great and there is a beautiful heroic theme (heard only twice).I don't really care about a dramatic arch anyway - I'm more interested in great individual moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I may be in the minority, but I really prefer experiencing a JW score on cd first, and with the movie later Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's what I'll be doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I don't really care about a dramatic arch anyway - I'm more interested in great individual moments.Me too and by far, at least initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 thor is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Me too. I'm seeing the movie on Thursday at 9:00 am so would love the OST to leak before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 More from Cédric Delelée:Thanks for the reply, cdelelee!I see you cannot say anything about the film, but would it be possible to say if the music (less epic/more action driven) was a result of it being well adapted to the film? I guess so, but not all the time. For example, the old themes' quotes are not very well-adapted and frankly the music could have been more thematic-driven in many scenes, but may be I missed some quotes. I'll have to listen to the CD to be sure. And for the choral writing, yes, it sounds fine, but nothing new here, just a ROTJ reworking in less powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 hmm, again not too positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's it, I'm staying away from this thread until returning from seeing the film tomorrow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 First reactions are always hyperbolic praise or knee-jerk criticism. Patience, everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I may be in the minority, but I really prefer experiencing a JW score on cd first, and with the movie laterCount me in this minority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 You missed this from that guy from FSM: "Same level as INDY 4 ? Yes, may be better. But I expected more."Ok., that and Thor's comments have tempered my expectations enormously, it might not even be as good as the prequel scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Then it's as we feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I like Indy 4 score so I guess I'll be alright with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Indy IV is great! I definitely like some of the action material there more than I like AOTC's action setpieces, for example.Swashbuckler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years.. DarthDementous and Jilal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years..Yup. And I'm all in for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years.. He merely indulges to the modern trend. Are woodwinds still banned from modern scoring? Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years..He merely indulges to the modern trend. Are woodwinds still banned from modern scoring?Don't be ridiculous. It has nothing to do with modern trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years..He merely indulges to the modern trend. Are woodwinds still banned from modern scoring? Don't be ridiculous. It has nothing to do with modern trends. Boring post! Speak up or don't say anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 So this could be the weakest Star Wars score? That is a frightening thought but I won't panic before I have heard the score on album and seen the movie, just lowering my expectations greatly now. I wonder if it relies heavily on previous material? Maybe it won't be able to get an Oscar nomination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Watching a Star Wars movie and listening to a new Star Wars score, both at the same time and for the first time is too overwhelming to properly focus on both things.And how it works on album is frankly, for me, pretty much all that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 my expectations are still highPeople didn't even notice noteworthy RotS unreleased music until a month later, and there was plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 reading all these comments about less thematic, mostly rhythmic-motivic music, individual stand-out moments and less development etc. i think comes in total agreement with what Williams' music has become the last years..He merely indulges to the modern trend. Are woodwinds still banned from modern scoring?Don't be ridiculous. It has nothing to do with modern trends.Boring post! Speak up or don't say anything at all.I wait until someone responds stupidly to my initial provocation to unleash truth. So, do you have anything to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 So is the score more coherent than the prequels? I kinda felt that those scores were a number of great set pieces surrounded by more anonymous action music and fairly generic dramatic scoring. Lucas' editing didn't help things."Oh no, it's not more coherent. It's exactly what you say about them, with less great set pieces."From that FSM poster. Sounds like it is the weakest Star Wars score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Watching a Star Wars movie and listening to a new Star Wars score, both at the same time and for the first time is too overwhelming to properly focus on both things. And how it works on album is frankly, for me, pretty much all that matters I think that's true. We can't expect to instantly see and hear everything all at once on first viewing, as we can with the OT and prequels which are familiar by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I hate to be the over-optimistic wide-eyed fangirl for once instead of my usual grinch (like I am in the rest of the Internet) but I remember when people dissed Tintin and then it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I hate to be the over-optimistic wide-eyed fangirl for once instead of my usual grinch (like I am in the rest of the Internet) but I remember when people dissed Tintin and then it was awesome.I still find it his weakest adventure score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2015 Tintin is an awesome score, its surprising to me still that so many here don't like it. JasonTHX, Will Tasker, Not Mr. Big and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Kristopher Tapley @kristapley 42m42 minutes agoScore, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects and maybe Production Design. That's the Oscar ceiling on "Star Wars: The Force Awakens." Will Mavity @mavericksmovies 36m36 minutes ago@kristapley you think Williams is contention to win this year or it still Burwell/Morricone's year? Kristopher Tapley @kristapley@mavericksmovies I kinda think Morricone is going to win but I don't know. This guy thinks Williams will get a nomination but Morricone will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Well, as presented on the ost, I don't know which I I would consider the weakest.I just noticed I remember literally nothing from the AotC OST besides the love theme and a statement of the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The Arena is an awesome track from that OST. Sharkissimo and Will Tasker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2015 Tintin is an awesome score, its surprising to me still that so many here don't like it.It's a masterpiece. One of my favorite Williams effort. It's a major work with highlights galore. Not Mr. Big, Taikomochi and Will Tasker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This guy thinks Williams will get a nomination but Morricone will win.This guy is probably right.I just noticed I remember literally nothing from the AotC OST besides the love theme and a statement of the Imperial March.The Arena is an awesome track from that OST.That's all there's to remember from that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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