crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Well, I never read reviews elsewhere and had my opinion changed. I didn't even like the LOTR scores until I read Clemmensen's reviews of them. He does make his reviews accessible. I don't mind his opinions (as much) and appreciate any attempts at being more specific. But,.. he has an unfortunate tendency to overload his sentences with numerous overly sophisticated phrases regarding the inherent regretful methodology inherent to the contemporary film score landscape. Thus, the underlining message, albeit not devoid of relative clarity, becomes excessively obscured by the verbosity of his lengthy and illuminated ruminations. Karol DarthDementous and mbrannon47 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I know what you are referring to, and I agree. His writing is far from perfect. But I can't help that I find his reviews more insightful, informative, and convincing than anyone else out there. It's just not a very competitive field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 There are a few JWFAN members who write exactly like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 As a reviewer, he has his own style. And while I tend to disagree more with him more with each passing year, I still respect his opinion. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 And he's also pretty biased, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: There are a few JWFAN members who write exactly like that... I don't mind more academic (or semi-academic) language. But with combination with his general attitude, he comes off a patronising and arrogant. It's an explosive substance if you mix the ingredients wrong. Mikko, for instance, likes to write in a more literary language. But it doesn't feel like that. It's more endearing in his case. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He would be killed by any editor halfway worth his salt. But he does one thing (if not always, more often than not) that must be praised, and that is dig up background info on movie and /or score. That can't be undone by the autistic sentence wringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Honestly, I think with a proper editor, people would be much more kind to his writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If he were a good writer, people would be much more kind to his writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Except I just happen to think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 6 minutes ago, crocodile said: I don't mind more academic (or semi-academic) language. But with combination with his general attitude, he comes off a patronising and arrogant. It's an explosive mixture if you mix the ingredients wrong. Mikko, for instance, likes to write in a more literary language. But it doesn't feel like that. It's more endearing in his case. Karol Mikko really feels like some sort of (re-)incarnation of Tolkien or Gandalf, in that respect. crocodile and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,271 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 5 minutes ago, Taikomochi said: Honestly, I think with a proper editor, people would be much more kind to his writing. Editing is writing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just now, mrbellamy said: Editing is writing! Well, true, but you see the distinction I am making, between having good writing that is unrefined and just having bad writing all around. While we may not all agree, I believe he is the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just now, Taikomochi said: Well, true, but you see the distinction I am making, between having good writing that is unrefined and just having bad writing all around. While we may not all agree, I believe he is the former. Let's just agree that he is an intelligent bloke with unique perspective/opinions. But his delivery tends to be rusty. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yes, that is very fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=14362 Oh noe!!!!! some body at filmtrack tattled on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I saw that, and was similarly curious as dfenton. Why is there so much animosity between these two sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just now, Taikomochi said: I saw that, and was similarly curious as dfenton. Why is there so much animosity between these two sites? Something about Temple of Doom bootlegs several years ago I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 5 minutes ago, Mr. Big said: http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=14362 Oh noe!!!!! some body at filmtrack tattled on us. These people have an irony-deficiency! ARE YOU READING THIS FILMTRACKS MEMBERS??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hilarious, this. What hostility, again? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 yea I have no hostility towards anyone at that site; In fact I couldn't name you one person who uses that site, I haven't been there since the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Why does @Kühni want to slap @Jay with dead fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Quote ...it is a pretty consolidated company that I found isn't overly welcoming to new participants... LOL, I enjoy this site, JWFan, a lot, but that is very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just now, Taikomochi said: "...it is a pretty consolidated company that I found isn't overly welcoming to new participants... " LOL, I enjoy this site, JWFan, a lot, but that is very accurate. That's why I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,271 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I still quite don't understand the whole "welcoming" new members thing. What are we supposed to do exactly? When I joined I just started posting...I didn't need a hug. 5 minutes ago, Hlao-roo said: Why does @Kühni want to slap @Jay with dead fish? Kinky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 9 minutes ago, Jay said: yea I have no hostility towards anyone at that site; In fact I couldn't name you one person who uses that site, I haven't been there since the 90s. KK! He was was born in it, moulded by it. He didn't see the JWFan light until he was already a man, by then it was nothing to him but BLINDING! KK and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, Hlao-roo said: Why does @Kühni want to slap @Jay with dead fish? I made a comment on the FSM forum 3 years ago that he didn't like and has been mean to me online ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I still quite don't understand the whole "welcoming" new members thing. What are we supposed to do exactly? When I joined I just started posting...I didn't need a hug. It's not needing a hug. I have been on this site since 2007, on and off, and, for most of the time, except perhaps more recently, my responses/opinions were mostly ignored. It's not that I was specifically disliked, but rather people simply did not acknowledge or respond to anything I said, presumably because they did not recognize me as someone they could interact with. I am not sure if that is exactly what Kuhn was referring to, but that is surely my experience. It's not easy breaking into a community that has existed well over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just now, Jay said: I made a comment on the FSM forum 3 years ago that he didn't like and has been mean to me online ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 2 minutes ago, Jay said: I made a comment on the FSM forum 3 years ago that he didn't like and has been mean to me online ever since. I recently discovered MV Gerhard from LLL thinks I'm a piece of shit and named me as one of the reasons he doesnt visit on JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: I recently discovered MV Gerhard from LLL thinks I'm a piece of shit and named me as one of the reasons he doesnt visit on JWFan. LOL this thread is too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 14 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I still quite don't understand the whole "welcoming" new members thing. What are we supposed to do exactly? When I joined I just started posting...I didn't need a hug. On 7/29/2015 at 7:11 AM, TownerFan said: I'm here since the very early days of this place, so I guess I learned to understand its in's and out's. While I've never been a truly active poster, I always enjoyed the good-natured spirit and the lighthearted tone of JWFan. But I understand that in the latter years it became a lot more self-referential and somehow more exclusive to the point where sometimes it's difficult to get it. It's part of the game actually, as discussion boards like this are somehow being surpassed by other social media outlets like Facebook, where people engage more directly with each other and create their own network of friendships and connections, so a lot of them probably don't feel the need to replicate discussions they're already having in other places. Like Thor, I too don't get most of the (zillions) inside jokes and verbal sparring between some users, which sometimes get very nasty and ugly, and that's what keeps me away from most discussions, even if sometimes I'd like to contribute. But I understand this is what JWFan today is and that's what probably keeps it going on, and that's totally fine with me. I check it everyday, even though most of the time I don't feel attached to it anymore. TownerFan and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 27 minutes ago, Taikomochi said: It's not needing a hug. I have been on this site since 2007, on and off, and, for most of the time, except perhaps more recently, my responses/opinions were mostly ignored. It's not that I was specifically disliked, but rather people simply did not acknowledge or respond to anything I said, presumably because they did not recognize me as someone they could interact with. I am not sure if that is exactly what Kuhn was referring to, but that is surely my experience. It's not easy breaking into a community that has existed well over a decade. You know, sometimes a lack of response can mean people agree with you and have nothing to add. I guess the "like" button function makes it clearer. But I know what you mean. Karol Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 It did take a while before I actually felt like part of JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: You know, sometimes a lack of response can mean people agree with you and have nothing to add. I guess the "like" button function makes it clearer. But I know what you mean. Karol I'd be inclined to agree with you if it wasn't such a prevalent pattern over so much time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, Taikomochi said: I'd be inclined to agree with you if it wasn't such a prevalent pattern over so much time. Maybe you're just right all the time? To be honest, I never felt like your opinion didn't matter. Karol Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 10 minutes ago, Mr. Big said: It did take a while before I actually felt like part of JWFan. Right. Who are you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I used a ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, crocodile said: Maybe you're just right all the time? To be honest, I never felt like your opinion didn't matter. Karol Haha, if only I was right all the time. But I appreciate that. I feel like members like you, Incanus, and Jay have done a good job lately of involving more people in discussions, despite what I said earlier. Perhaps that is why I have been more involved over the last year, in addition to TFA being released. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm sure I wouldn't reconize most of the people who post here by their screen name. I never actually noticed TheGreatEye till after he became Quint. The name Jason LeBlanc was one I vaguely heard off till he was announced moderator. A character flaw on my part, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I'm sure I wouldn't reconize most of the people who post here by their screen name. I never actually noticed TheGreatEye till after he became Quint. The name Jason LeBlanc was one I vaguely heard off till he was announced moderator. A character flaw on my part, probably. Same here for the most part. I tend to lump members together before their quirks become apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 The only distinctive thing about me is that is use ellipsis... bit too frequently. And that I have a girl's name. Which, of course, was originally derived from a male name. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If I had a quirk it would probably be my overuse of parentheses. (I use them a lot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 8 minutes ago, Mr. Big said: I tend to lump members together before their quirks become apparent. All I know is that @John Takis and @Jim Ware are definitely the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Even though it's not allowed for a single member to have different accounts here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Did Hlao-roo change his avatar to a white square? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yes! Very fitting. Because after all these years the man is still a cypher, an unknown quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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