Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Jason, how "up to date" is your editing guide in the first post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 It's completely accurate, if that's what you mean. And it covers the extent of my knowledge; I haven't done any kind of second-by-second analysis myself, to point out all the microedits, etc. Personally I'd find the spreadsheet easier to use than the forum post for editing purposes. Also not noted in the main post yet is the alternate minute of the Jakku village attack, as pointed out here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25940-the-force-awakens-fyc-release-discussion-film-spoilers-allowed/&page=8#comment-1211500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Ok listened to the FYC fpr the first time. The sound quality is amazing. Even better then the OST. Though some tracks seem to have more noise from the orchestra. Especially the end credits. Some excellent unreleased music. Worthy of an expanded edit indeed. Some of the cuts and edits in the FYC are very unsatisfactory so I can't imagine ever listening to it again (though it's nowhere near as bad as the TPM UE ironically). Not sure if I want an all out chronological edit or just the OST with the full unreleased tracks shoved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I much prefer the FYC version of "I Can Fly Anything." It has a superior but abridged version of Poe's theme. It needs a LOT of love, though. Some subtle films edits sprinkled in (that may not bother most) and some looping that needs removed. Still, it's worth spending time on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I will continue to use the OST as the primary source of music with the unreleased cues from the FYC included. I have listened to the OST dozens of times and it is a great listening experience - I don't want to mess too much with that. The exceptions to this are the combined Follow Me/Falcon track which never should have been split, and the stronger version of Rey's theme at the end of The Abduction which I'll use to replace the end of that OST track. I think I'll use the OST version of Attack of Jakku. For Torn Apart, I'll probably use the OST version until Han's fall, and then edit in the FYC version from that point to the end. I need to compare more closely the two versions of I Can Fly Anything before I can decide. I'm definitely using the OST version of The Ways of the Force. There is a horrible edit at 0:32 of the FYC version that is as bad as a TMP UE edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yeah I'm very partial to the OST right now also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'm happy that the transition to the End Titles is excact in the FYC. Why didn't they get it right on the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Is it different? Not sure I caught that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Try to AB them. The piatti on the OST is a bit behind the actual beat. On the FYC it sounds good for my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The timing does sound off on the OST. The FYC has it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'm glad that I'm not crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The sound is really solid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, Nemesis said: Try to AB them. The piatti on the OST is a bit behind the actual beat. On the FYC it sounds good for my ears. AB? Piatti? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Sorry, Piatti is the italian word for (Clash) Cymbals I think. AB means compare next to each other, doesn't it? But did you catch that the 2 transitions aren't exactly the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I wish I could hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drax said: I wish I could hear this. Just be happy you doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, Nemesis said: Sorry, Piatti is the italian word for (Clash) Cymbals I think. AB means compare next to each other, doesn't it? But did you catch that the 2 transitions aren't exactly the same? I didn't know what a piatti was, but I assumed from my own experience with the OST track, so rest assured that we heard the same thing. The cymbal crash does sound late on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I hate it when the timing isn't right. Otherwise I love the OST End Titles track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 A piatta is a type of Italian bread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: A piatta is a type of Italian bread! Do you mean ciabatta? If so, the ciabatta clash on the OST is late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, Nemesis said: Just be happy you doesn't! I meant the FYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Drax said: I meant the FYC. Ups...solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: A piatta is a type of Italian bread! It's an Italian dish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Which do you guys prefer? Torn Apart OST or Torn Apart FYC. Right now I would go with the OST. because it contains the full statement of that building "death music", which is truncated on the FYC, which also is missing that kickass version of The Force Theme near the end. For The Ways Of The Force I would again defer to the OST. The cutting back and forth on the FYC means it really never gains much momentum. I fully understand why Williams chose to separate the scherzo on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I prefer the OST of both cues. That building "death music" you mention is my favorite part of that cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Which do you guys prefer? Torn Apart OST or Torn Apart FYC. Right now I would go with the OST. because it contains the full statement of that building "death music", which is truncated on the FYC, which also is missing that kickass version of The Force Theme near the end. For The Ways Of The Force I would again defer to the OST. The cutting back and forth on the FYC means it really never gains much momentum. I fully understand why Williams chose to separate the scherzo on the OST. I prefer my edits of both. For Torn Apart, I combined both releases to get rid of as many edits as possible. For the alternate section corresponding to Han's impalement, I used the film version from the FYC and then reverted immediately to the longer crescendo from the OST. For The Ways of the Force, I spliced the FYC scherzo material in where it ostensibly belongs, between the two chunks of duel music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 OST for me as well. I like some of the extra music in FYC "Torn Apart" but it is all very awkward sounding how it is inserted into the other music, especially since they are such short pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, Datameister said: For the alternate section corresponding to Han's impalement, I used the film version from the FYC and then reverted immediately to the longer crescendo from the OST. But the FYC version is missing the first phrase of that theme. The OST has it complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I prefer the OST versions of both, also, although I managed to make a decent edit with Rey gets the lightsaber from the OST, and then going directly to the scherzo and the rest of the duel on the FYC. For listening, I still consider the OST version of The Ways of the Force far more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yeah, I prefer to keep The Ways of the Force just about Rey and Ren and keep the scherzo as its own track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think what would make an extended of the track work better would be if the had the unreleased music that plays after Rey gets the saber and before the X-Wings begin their attack (it covers shots of the pilots discussing what to do right before attacking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yeah. We need MORE music! I'm guessing that Williams never really scores a fully completed and lock edit of the lightsaber duel / X-Wing attack, but rather treated them separately and the two were edited together in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'm pretty content with just the OST, although the FYC is a nice bonus. Dixon Hill and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: I think what would make an extended of the track work better would be if the had the unreleased music that plays after Rey gets the saber and before the X-Wings begin their attack (it covers shots of the pilots discussing what to do right before attacking) Totally agree. For some reason, this is one of my favourite unreleased portions of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, E.T. and Elliot said: I'm pretty content with just the OST, although the FYC is a nice bonus. According to the audio gurus on this forum, the FYC has better dynamic range. I'll listen to it later to hear if it's any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 It does, although the OST sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I prefer the OST versions of both The Ways of the Force and Torn Apart. The "interrupetd" versions doesn't really grow on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yeah it gave my system a good thump. But oh man, nothing thuds my speakers like that TOD Polydor CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drax said: But oh man, nothing thuds my speakers like that TOD Polydor CD. Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I prefer the EQ'd off-pitch expanded TOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Yawn... I'm surprised at you, talking that way about our baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bastard she's just a babay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 She went through my SOUL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Jason, in your editing guide, why did you recommend using the FYC version of Finale? The version of The Resistance March used these is identical to the OST track, while the shorter version on the OST is a different performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 >shrug< It was just a quick guide, every individual person is welcome to do whatever they personally prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Cool. Just wondering maybe if you heard something I didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think the FYC version of the end titles makes sense when you don't have the concert arrangement of the March of the Resistance elsewhere in the disc, which is the case for the FYC album. I also use the OST version in my combined edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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