A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 White is yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Yellow is the new white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I'm definitely gonna stick to the previous version. The white balance of the new one is a bit 'cooked' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Nobody... calls me "yellow". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 BTW, I once read the articles on 2001: ASO and the standard Blu-ray version (or even the older DVD version) was actually never restored. So Nolan's 'unrestored version' is kinda fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Pure marketing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Let's get crocs! Grab him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 hours ago, John said: For those who haven’t seen it, here’s a comparison video between the 2007 Blu-ray release of 2001 and the new Nolan “restoration”: It looks like they ran the film through a bad Instagram filter. If this is indeed how the “restored” version appears, I doubt Kubrick would approve of it. Yuck. It's the same formaldehyde yellow as in Interstellar, Dunkirk and SPECTRE. Has Nolan done a Modigliani and got himself hooked on absinthe? Did Hoytema have a hand in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Wait, didn't Nolan specifically say they didn't do any digital color nonsense? Could it be you guys just don't like how the film actually looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 It means that people like the Bluray transfer better: I certainly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I saw plenty of films in the 90s and none of them looked yellow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Colors on old celluloid prints degrade over time, which means they often have to be boosted for new releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Colors on old celluloid prints degrade over time, which means they often have to be boosted for new releases. Good thing the old Technicolor ones don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 So we are looking at prints taken from a degraded 70mm negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Looks perfectly unrestored to me. Not something that seems aesthetically pleasing, but I get the charm of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sharky said: So we are looking at prints taken from a degraded 70mm negative? I think so. Celluloid nitrate turned yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 So Nolan doesn't even clean up a film before releasing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Oh my... I didn't realise we had so many experts on here. I'm sure Stanley Kubrick would have appreciated your input. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 The problem is he's dead, and we're stuck with people like Nolan. Sharkissimo and A24 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Who still know more about it than we do. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Rubbish! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: Who still know more about it than we do. Karol Forget it, Brother Karol. It's Jurassic Shark, the great shame of JWFan Modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Same old, same old from The Grumpy Parrot. Try smiling once in a while, it might do you some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I smile quite a bit - forgive me if it doesn't take the form of endless laughing emoticons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 You have been a bit down lately. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Only here. It's been a difficult few months for JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Strangely, it's much more cheerful here when you're not around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I'm always happy! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Strangely, it's much more cheerful here when you're not around. For you I'm sure. That's because you're a strangely spiteful twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Popcorn.gif Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 minute ago, TGP said: For you I'm sure. That's because you're a strangely spiteful twat. It's not just for me. You really manage to kill most discussions with your negativity. And before accusing others of such things, you might want to look yourself in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I think so. Celluloid nitrate turned yellow. The highly flammable cellulose nitrate as an emulsion base (as in Inglorious Basterds) was discontinued in the late 40s, where it was superseded by cellulose diacetate and cellulose triacetate ('safety film'). With exposure to moisture, heat, or acids, the acetyl (CH3CO) groups have a unfortunate habit of breaking away from the long cellulose polymer chains, and reforming as acetic acid (CH3CO2H)--the main component of vinegar. This is the the first stage of cellulose acetate deterioration, and was known in the business as "vinegar syndrome", Could it be that Nolan as child saw a degraded release print and has a faulty of idea what 2001: ASO should is supposed to look like, that perhaps informs that the skewed colour balancing of his recent 70mm films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Films in the 30s and 40s were flaming good! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's not just for me. You really manage to kill most discussions with your negativity. And before accusing others of such things, you might want to look yourself in the mirror. And I think you kill most discussions with your "humor." The mirror doesn't show me a spiteful twat like you, but someone who holds a grudge. You seemed to have it out for me from your start here, and I still don't like you. You've given me no reason to. Pretty simple. Now let's stop killing the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sharky said: The highly flammable cellulose nitrate as an emulsion base (as in Inglorious Basterds) was discontinued in the late 40s, where it was superseded by cellulose diacetate and cellulose triacetate ('safety film'). With exposure to moisture, heat, or acids, the acetyl (CH3CO) groups have a unfortunate habit of breaking away from the long cellulose polymer chains, and reforming as acetic acid (CH3CO2H)--the main component of vinegar. This is the the first stage of cellulose acetate deterioration, and was known in the business as "vinegar syndrome", Could it be that Nolan as child saw a degraded release print and has a faulty of idea what 2001: ASO should is supposed to look like, that perhaps informs that the skewed colour balancing of his recent 70mm films? We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,073 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, TGP said: And I think you kill most discussions with your "humor." The mirror doesn't show me a spiteful twat like you, but someone who holds a grudge. You seemed to have it out for me from your start here, and I still don't like you. You've given me no reason to. Pretty simple. Now let's stop killing the discussion. There's plenty of people here who appreciate my jokes. There seems to be plenty of people here who's getting tired of your constant rudeness and negativity. You couldn't handle that I pointed this out, and that's why you're holding a grudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Ok let's hear from these people then. I asked if I should leave a while back. Let those people speak up again and you'll be rid of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 No, Jurassic Shark doesn't like me. He speaks for the abused common JWFan. Everyone go here and add/change your vote if necessary. Interesting how few voted leave, and how fewer than that were probably serious. Just a few random members who I likely was an ass to after they said something ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Your enemies have revealed themselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, crocodile said: We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like. Karol If it does and Nolan claims that this is how audiences saw 2001 in 1968, rest assured, the internet will explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, TGP said: No, Jurassic Shark doesn't like me. He speaks for the abused common JWFan. Everyone go here and add/change your vote if necessary. Interesting how few voted leave, and how fewer than that were probably serious. Just a few random members who I likely was an ass to after they said something ridiculous. You old drama queen! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, crocodile said: We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like. Since this is Nolan's presentation of the film, I find it unlikely that he would approve digital grading on the trailer. He hates that. Were the trailers to any of his films tuned-up compared to the finished film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I just saw this in a random reddit thread when looking for other opinions on this horrendous 2001 colour, and I won't search back for it, so take this with multiple grains of salt (especially that I myself haven't seen the trailer or the movie): someone said the trailer for Dunkirk showed the same kind of grading, but the movie itself in Imax looked much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: There's plenty of people here who appreciate my jokes. I do. 1 hour ago, TGP said: Ok let's hear from these people then. I asked if I should leave a while back. Let those people speak up again and you'll be rid of me. Do not leave. I so not think of you in such a way as JS does. In fact I rather appreciate both of you're personalities on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: You old drama queen! Lol +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 @Jurassic Shark er norsk og liker haier. He's OK in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Chen G. said: Meh. If Mel Gibson, by far the most old-fashioned out of the three, has moved to digital, that’s really saying something. Mel Gibson hasn’t been relevant since The Passion Of The Christ. Besides, my nearly year-old comment was literally in reference to Tarantino and Nolan keeping Kodak in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I despised Hacksaw Ridge. The man just can't make a movie, even a non-Jesus movie, without lathering on the eye-rolling Christ imagery thicker than vaseline. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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