The Official Sir Christopher Nolan Church Thread - Oscar-winning Saviour of the Celluloid

[A24 5,163]

White is yellow?

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

Yellow is the new white.

[A24 5,163]

I'm definitely gonna stick to the previous version. The white balance of the new one is a bit 'cooked'

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

Nobody... calls me "yellow".

[A24 5,163]

BTW, I once read the articles on 2001: ASO and the standard Blu-ray version (or even the older DVD version) was actually never restored. So Nolan's 'unrestored version' is kinda fishy.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

Pure marketing!

[A24 5,163]

Let's get crocs! Grab him!

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

2 hours ago, John said:

For those who haven’t seen it, here’s a comparison video between the 2007 Blu-ray release of 2001 and the new Nolan “restoration”:

 

 

It looks like they ran the film through a bad Instagram filter. If this is indeed how the “restored” version appears, I doubt Kubrick would approve of it. 

 

 

Yuck. It's the same formaldehyde yellow as in Interstellar, Dunkirk and SPECTRE. Has Nolan done a Modigliani and got himself hooked on absinthe? Did Hoytema have a hand in this?

[Disco Stu 15,517]

Wait, didn't Nolan specifically say they didn't do any digital color nonsense?  Could it be you guys just don't like how the film actually looks?

[Chen G. 6,149]

It means that people like the Bluray transfer better: I certainly do.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

I saw plenty of films in the 90s and none of them looked yellow!

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

Colors on old celluloid prints degrade over time, which means they often have to be boosted for new releases.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Colors on old celluloid prints degrade over time, which means they often have to be boosted for new releases.

 

Good thing the old Technicolor ones don't.

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

So we are looking at prints taken from a degraded 70mm negative?

 

 

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

Looks perfectly unrestored to me.  Not something that seems aesthetically pleasing, but I get the charm of it.  

[A24 5,163]

2 minutes ago, Sharky said:

So we are looking at prints taken from a degraded 70mm negative?

 

 

 

I think so. Celluloid nitrate turned yellow.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

So Nolan doesn't even clean up a film before releasing it?

[crocodile 9,746]

Oh my... I didn't realise we had so many experts on here. I'm sure Stanley Kubrick would have appreciated your input. 

 

Karol

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

The problem is he's dead, and we're stuck with people like Nolan.

[crocodile 9,746]

Who still know more about it than we do.

 

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

Rubbish!

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

2 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Who still know more about it than we do.

 

Karol

 

Forget it, Brother Karol.  It's Jurassic Shark, the great shame of JWFan Modern. 

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

Same old, same old from The Grumpy Parrot. Try smiling once in a while, it might do you some good. 

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

I smile quite a bit - forgive me if it doesn't take the form of endless laughing emoticons.  

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

You have been a bit down lately.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

 

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

Only here.  It's been a difficult few months for JWFan. 

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

Strangely, it's much more cheerful here when you're not around.

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

I'm always happy!

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

 

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Strangely, it's much more cheerful here when you're not around.

 

For you I'm sure.  That's because you're a strangely spiteful twat. 

[Bilbo 4,294]

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[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

1 minute ago, TGP said:

For you I'm sure.  That's because you're a strangely spiteful twat. 

 

It's not just for me. You really manage to kill most discussions with your negativity.

 

And before accusing others of such things, you might want to look yourself in the mirror.

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

26 minutes ago, Alexcremers said:

I think so. Celluloid nitrate turned yellow.

 

The highly flammable cellulose nitrate as an emulsion base (as in Inglorious Basterds) was discontinued in the late 40s, where it was superseded by cellulose diacetate and cellulose triacetate ('safety film'). With exposure to moisture, heat, or acids, the acetyl (CH₃CO) groups have a unfortunate habit of breaking away from the long cellulose polymer chains, and reforming as acetic acid (CH₃CO₂H)--the main component of vinegar. This is the the first stage of cellulose acetate deterioration, and was known in the business as "vinegar syndrome^", 

 

Could it be that Nolan as child saw a degraded release print and has a faulty of idea what 2001: ASO should is supposed to look like, that perhaps informs that the skewed colour balancing of his recent 70mm films?

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

Films in the 30s and 40s were flaming good!

 

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

It's not just for me. You really manage to kill most discussions with your negativity.

 

And before accusing others of such things, you might want to look yourself in the mirror.

 

And I think you kill most discussions with your "humor."  The mirror doesn't show me a spiteful twat like you, but someone who holds a grudge.  You seemed to have it out for me from your start here, and I still don't like you.  You've given me no reason to.  Pretty simple.  Now let's stop killing the discussion. 

[crocodile 9,746]

4 minutes ago, Sharky said:

 

The highly flammable cellulose nitrate as an emulsion base (as in Inglorious Basterds) was discontinued in the late 40s, where it was superseded by cellulose diacetate and cellulose triacetate ('safety film'). With exposure to moisture, heat, or acids, the acetyl (CH₃CO) groups have a unfortunate habit of breaking away from the long cellulose polymer chains, and reforming as acetic acid (CH₃CO₂H)--the main component of vinegar. This is the the first stage of cellulose acetate deterioration, and was known in the business as "vinegar syndrome^", 

 

Could it be that Nolan as child saw a degraded release print and has a faulty of idea what 2001: ASO should is supposed to look like, that perhaps informs that the skewed colour balancing of his recent 70mm films?

We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like.

 

Karol

[Jurassic Shark 16,446]

2 minutes ago, TGP said:

 

And I think you kill most discussions with your "humor."  The mirror doesn't show me a spiteful twat like you, but someone who holds a grudge.  You seemed to have it out for me from your start here, and I still don't like you.  You've given me no reason to.  Pretty simple.  Now let's stop killing the discussion. 

 

There's plenty of people here who appreciate my jokes. 

 

There seems to be plenty of people here who's getting tired of your constant rudeness and negativity. You couldn't handle that I pointed this out, and that's why you're holding a grudge.

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

Ok let's hear from these people then.  I asked if I should leave a while back.  Let those people speak up again and you'll be rid of me.  

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

Stay!

[Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,263]

No, Jurassic Shark doesn't like me.  He speaks for the abused common JWFan.  Everyone go here and add/change your vote if necessary.  

 

Interesting how few voted leave, and how fewer than that were probably serious.  Just a few random members who I likely was an ass to after they said something ridiculous.  

[Jill Sandwich 11,183]

Your enemies have revealed themselves!

[A24 5,163]

17 minutes ago, crocodile said:

We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like.

 

Karol

 

If it does and Nolan claims that this is how audiences saw 2001 in 1968, rest assured, the internet will explode.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,430]

8 minutes ago, TGP said:

No, Jurassic Shark doesn't like me.  He speaks for the abused common JWFan.  Everyone go here and add/change your vote if necessary.  

 

Interesting how few voted leave, and how fewer than that were probably serious.  Just a few random members who I likely was an ass to after they said something ridiculous.  

 

You old drama queen!

 

Lol

[Chen G. 6,149]

23 minutes ago, crocodile said:

We are of course still assuming that this trailer video actually represents what the new film looks like.

 

Since this is Nolan's presentation of the film, I find it unlikely that he would approve digital grading on the trailer. He hates that.

 

Were the trailers to any of his films tuned-up compared to the finished film?

[Holko 12,064]

I just saw this in a random reddit thread when looking for other opinions on this horrendous 2001 colour, and I won't search back for it, so take this with multiple grains of salt (especially that I myself haven't seen the trailer or the movie): someone said the trailer for Dunkirk showed the same kind of grading, but the movie itself in Imax looked much better.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,361]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

There's plenty of people here who appreciate my jokes. 

I do.

1 hour ago, TGP said:

Ok let's hear from these people then.  I asked if I should leave a while back.  Let those people speak up again and you'll be rid of me.  

Do not leave. I so not think of you in such a way as JS does. In fact I rather appreciate both of you're personalities on these forums.

[A24 5,163]

1 hour ago, Stefancos said:

 

You old drama queen!

 

Lol

 

+1

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

@Jurassic Shark er norsk og liker haier. He's OK in my book.

 

[Koray Savas 2,260]

14 hours ago, Chen G. said:

Meh.

 

If Mel Gibson, by far the most old-fashioned out of the three, has moved to digital, that’s really saying something.

Mel Gibson hasn’t been relevant since The Passion Of The Christ. Besides, my nearly year-old comment was literally in reference to Tarantino and Nolan keeping Kodak in business. 

[Disco Stu 15,517]

I despised Hacksaw Ridge.  The man just can't make a movie, even a non-Jesus movie, without lathering on the eye-rolling Christ imagery thicker than vaseline.