Jay 39,176 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Sweet! http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6843746/jurassic-park-orchestral-concert-treatment-theaters Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 255 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 That's really neat. Our orchestra is looking into those, but they're expensive as we would need to hire many extras to play any of them. We're only a "classical" size orchestra, so we would need to hire a lot of extra people. One can dream though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'd be interesting to hear Denis Steals the Embryos live. indy4 and CapitalJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,169 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yes yes a thousand times yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,378 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Sharky said: I'd be interesting to hear Denis Steals the Embryos live. That would either be awesome, or completely shit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Or in the middle like Setting the Trap live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 560 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 This would be an amazing experience! The opening of the film with the choir would be a great cue live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 255 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Apparently those guys wanted $60k for us to do Home alone...and that was before paying the orchestra and other production costs...not cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 539 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 OMG! Is this only in New York? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I love how this is becoming a growing enterprise. CapitalJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,200 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not a fan of these film concerts in general, but this I might consider if I have the opportunity. My favourite film score of all time, and one of my favourite films of all time. When you've seen it 50-60 times, it's refreshing with a new way to view it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,093 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Strikes me as having the same problem as BTTF live does - vast unscored areas. Although if this were in London, I think I'd have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 Home Alone has a lot of unscored sections too, but that concert totally worked. Of course it helps that most of the unscored sections have source music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scallenger 539 Posted January 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2016 Can you imagine a live to projection of Temple of Doom? That film is practically non-stop, wall-to-wall Williams. CapitalJ, Loert and KittBash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, scallenger said: Can you imagine a live to projection of Temple of Doom? That film is practically non-stop, wall-to-wall Williams. It would be amazing, but I don't think the film is nearly as popular as the ones they've been giving concerts to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,273 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Imagine a live to projection AOTC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,093 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No, don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Personally, I'd love to see them do Star Wars and ESB. I'm sure it will happen at some point... at least the original film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 23 hours ago, Jay said: Sweet! http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6843746/jurassic-park-orchestral-concert-treatment-theaters Fantastic news! 9 hours ago, Thor said: My favourite film score of all time, and one of my favourite films of all time. Absolutely, it's my favorite score and my favorite film. Plus, Jurassic Park contains my all-time favorite piece of music, the cue "Journey To The Island". And, the scene that plays during that cue is my favorite movie scene of all time. The marriage between picture and score is so perfect; Spielberg and Williams both totally nail it for that scene -- to me, it seems about as close to perfection in cinema as is possible. Just seeing "Journey To The Island" performed live to picture would make getting tickets for this worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I have always wanted to hear "My Friend, the Brachiosaurus" performed live. The most beautiful cue in the movie, in my opinion. Let's hope the french horns do not mess it up. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It's one of Williams' best musical moments ever, as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: It's one of Williams' best musical moments ever, as far as I'm concerned. You mean one of Patrick Doyle's best musical moments ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,378 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Sssstttt....ssssttttt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 254 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 As always Williams version is just better Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 I wonder if they will have the orchestra play some of the music that was dropped from the film, like the Goat Bait scene or the beginning of High Wire Stunts. Also, I wonder if the scene with Ellie in the shed will use Williams intended music, or if the orchestra will copy the film's tracking of various cues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 461 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 12 hours ago, Jay said: I wonder if they will have the orchestra play some of the music that was dropped from the film, like the Goat Bait scene or the beginning of High Wire Stunts. Also, I wonder if the scene with Ellie in the shed will use Williams intended music, or if the orchestra will copy the film's tracking of various cues Probably the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Sadly, yes. That's what was done for the Star Trek '09 concerts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 60 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Has there been any kind of live-to-projection where you have no SFX or dialogue? Dialogue are subtitled and you only hear the orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Not that I've ever heard of. I think it would be hard to sell enough tickets to something like that to cover the costs involved. One of the benefits of these kinds of concerts is you can get the general public interested and have them in larger venues. I couldn't believe how many people were at the Star Trek Into Darkness concert I went to in Philadelphia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,729 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jay said: I couldn't believe how many people were at the Star Trek Into Darkness concert I went to in Philadelphia! Yeah, who would want to listen to that music live? Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 It's a great score! CapitalJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,378 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 No it's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 4,093 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I went to the first one in London, and it was packed. (Not to mention one of the most spine-tingling live music experiences I've ever been to) I did not feel compelled to see STID. Neither the score nor film came close to the first imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,169 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I've seen both Giacchino's Treks live and both were brilliant. There's many individual moments to anticipate and enjoy live. Like hearing the piano and the building theme for Khan was wonderful, as was the Spock/Khan fight when Giacchino fights their themes against each other. And the brass of Nero's Theme is one of the most enjoyably powerful themes to fill a concert hall. CapitalJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,236 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 7 hours ago, ymenard said: Has there been any kind of live-to-projection where you have no SFX or dialogue? Dialogue are subtitled and you only hear the orchestra? Isn't that how they did the LOTR stuff at Radio City? Not totally muted, but the actual film sound was turned way down and everything was subtitled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 As it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 1 hour ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Isn't that how they did the LOTR stuff at Radio City? Not totally muted, but the actual film sound was turned way down and everything was subtitled. Nope. Normal audio levels. And the films are always subtitled at these concerts. Why, I dunno. Do deaf people go to film concerts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 566 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 13 hours ago, ymenard said: Has there been any kind of live-to-projection where you have no SFX or dialogue? Dialogue are subtitled and you only hear the orchestra? The Two Towers concert I attended in Antwerp last December had an alternate mix. All dialogue was clear, but the sound effects seemed to fade in and out. The breach of the outer wall was as loud as ever, but a lot of the other sounds - including a lot of the fighting - was turned way down. There were a few punches without sound in that presentation. It almost sounded like they were adjusting the SFX stem by hand as the film went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,236 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I remember distinctly that at least the first FOTR production at Radio City had a similar thing happening, despite Jay's disagreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,378 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Jason is wrong. The soundmix for these films is adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 You said: 14 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Not totally muted, but the actual film sound was turned way down and everything was subtitled. Everything was subtitled, yes, absolutely, no question. But the "actual film sound turned way down"? No, definitely not. I was there too, and I remember hearing all the dialogue just fine. Was the sound effects bed lowered? Possible, I cannot recall. But if it was, it was certainly not "WAY" down, just lower than its theatrical mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,097 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 For these type of concerts, a specific pre-mixed track of just dialogue and fx is prepared of course, but when it comes to actual performance, there's a quite a bit of live mixing involved, i.e. some levels are being adjusted live by a mixer depending on the hall acoustics, size of the venue, etc. That's why how the overall thing sounds might change quite a lot depending on the venue you're seeing the concert. Given these are mainly "musical" events, the tendency is to have dialogue and fx (especially the latter) at lower levels than you'd hear in a movie theater or in the actual film mix (that's why they subtitle the whole film), hence the orchestra is usually much more prominent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, TownerFan said: Given these are mainly "musical" events, the tendency is to have dialogue and fx (especially the latter) at lower levels than you'd hear in a movie theater or in the actual film mix (that's why they subtitle the whole film), hence the orchestra is usually much more prominent. I wish this was always true in every venue, as one would expect to hear the orchestra, otherwise would pay for a common cinema ticket. My father went to Gladiator here in Santiago, and the dialogue and sound effects mix was so loud, he could barely hear the orchestra at times. Outrageous! This happens because Chilean producers always try to do things on the cheap side, and usually hire poorly trained and inexperienced people to handle the sound. If any Williams score live to picture comes to Santiago, I'll pray for someone competent enough in charge. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,679 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well this is a chance to fix the bad mix and volume dips of Theme from JP in the film (when they see the brachiosaurus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,378 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Obviously there won't be editing during a live concert. You're chances of ever hearing it isolated are exactly zero percent, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,176 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 I wonder why there are no dates listed here? http://filmconcertslive.com/movies/jurassic-park/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,679 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 19 hours ago, Stefancos said: What? In the film the music is interrupted by the various expressions of amazement of the actors..oooh,ahh, I can't believe it (with volume dips in the music)... They should have played the music only and just make the actor stare and not say anything this stands to this day as my most ruined JW moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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