Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 5 hours ago, hornist said: All the action cues in ESB are great show pieces, all of them concert house quality. But have not much to do with what is happening on the screen. Modern Johnny is much better FILM composer than those days. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Williams really only came into his own in the 2010s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 7 hours ago, hornist said: All the action cues in ESB are great show pieces, all of them concert house quality. But have not much to do with what is happening on the screen. Modern Johnny is much better FILM composer than those days. Modern Johnny tends to be more Mickey Mousey, while older Johnny would play through the action. I prefer the later approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So the later here is the older approach? But honestly, I just love The Battle in the Snow, it just doesn't have anything to do with the action going on there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I would have preferred the modern approach of chaotic unthematic orchestrally dense xylophone-heavy action scoring. Or the Hans Zimmer technique of repetitive cello ostinatos and synthesized drum rhythms with the occasional Inception noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 hours ago, E.T. and Elliot said: Williams really only came into his own in the 2010s. I would say the mid 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 hours ago, hornist said: But honestly, I just love The Battle in the Snow, it just doesn't have anything to do with the action going on there... How so? It doesn't accentuate the sync points as much as later action cues, but I wouldn't say it's got nothing to do with the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 But I would. It is a show piece for its own good. There are many in Empire. And I love them all. But yes, mickey mousing; they don't do it in this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 hours ago, hornist said: So the later here is the older approach? But honestly, I just love The Battle in the Snow, it just doesn't have anything to do with the action going on there... I think it's just John Williams working in a different mode. For me the Hoth Battle music fits the scene in the way the declamatory piano and brass describe the AT-ATs and this slow march towards the Rebel Base. It's less frenetic than JW's modern action music but I prefer the clear musical identity of the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Sorry, it do not change my opinion about the scoring of the ESB, most of it is brilliant with the film, and many show pieces(I love them all) but if you want see a more perfect match with the music and the film you must watch CE3K. The best marriage of film and music. Ever. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I prefer Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well it hasn't the greatest action music but honestly some of the cues are incredible fine. The horn solos ouh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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