Jay 37,249 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Quote Dear all, Yes The Terminator reissue will come out on CD and digital on the same day. CD will have a similar presentation to Robocop with a simple digipack. But the musical content will be the same as the vinyl. Brad Fiedel spent a lot of time working on this presentation. He went back to the original material to rebuild an album he feels would be a strong listening experience. I hope you will enjoy it best JC http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113843&forumID=1&archive=0 Here's the vinyl announcement: Quote The soundtrack to James Cameron's iconic 1984 action/sci-fi hit The Terminator has long been out-of-print. On April 8, Milan Records will release the remastered reissue of Brad Fiedel's score as part of the Nicolas Winding Refn Presents series. Listen to the main title theme above. The soundtrack was remastered from the original tapes and sequenced for the first time in the order Fiedel originally intended. It's a double LP on 180-gram red/blue splattered vinyl. Find some packaging shots below. "I am very happy that I had the opportunity to be involved in this release of The Terminatorscore," Fiedel said in a statement. "It's exciting to finally put out a version of the soundtrack that is in sync with my original vision of how the score should sound.” The Terminator OST: 01 Main Title 02 Terminator Arrival / Reese Chased / Sarah on Motorbike 03 Terminator Gets Guns / Search for Sarah 04 Reese Dreams of Future War 05 Sarah Watches News / Enters Tech Noir 06 Matt & Ginger Killed / Sarah Calls Detectives 07 Reese & Sarah in Garage 08 Arm & Eye Surgery 09 “I’ll Be Back” / Police Station & Escape 10 Future Flashback 11 “Fuck You Asshole” 12 Love Scene 13 Tunnel Chase 14 Death By Fire / Terminator Gets Up 15 Factory Chase 16 End Credits: Final Suite 17 The Terminator Theme (Extended Version) http://pitchfork.com/news/63451-the-terminator-soundtrack-getting-vinyl-reissue/ Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,242 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 36 minutes ago, Jay said: The Terminator OST The Terminator 'score' or 'expanded edition' would have been more appropriate. This is the actual Terminator OST: http://www.amazon.com/The-Terminator-Soundtrack-Brad-Fiedel/dp/B00000019G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Interesting. I love this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 These coloured vinyl discs will never work on a laser turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Sorry, Giacchino, but "Fuck You Asshole" is now my favorite track title of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Wow! So this must be the long-awaited release that Fiedel was teasing about on Facebook since 2014. Raises my hopes a little that something can be done with T2's situation... But this reissue, while presumably introducing new cues, appears to drop three cues from the "Definite Edition" assembly, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Cool. So between this, the original OST and the Definite Edition, we should have all the music, or pretty much near all. So the music is properly mixed this time, it seems. BTW, the link leads to the Goldsmith Alien post. Here's the real one: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113843&forumID=1&archive=0 And here's the Main Title: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Unfortunately, that version of the main titles seems to drop the "knife-scraping" sound from the mono mix of the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Fiedel can't be reasoned with. He can't be bargained with. He absolutely will not stop ever until there's a superior listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,821 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Oh, I hope this new mix doesn't match the new one in the Terminator Bluray where the music was revised eliminating in the mix certain motifs that you could clearly listen in the original mono audio. 1 hour ago, Corellian2019 said: Unfortunately, that version of the main titles seems to drop the "knife-scraping" sound from the mono mix of the film I'm not sure if that one is considered part of the music, but I've read that that sound was mixed in the dialogue track, that's why it's never in the music tracks. (as it wasn't in the 5.1 mix of the film because they had silenced the dialogue track) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 I was just going to say something along those lines - basically, how do we know the knife scraping sound wasn't an invention of the film's sound editors and Fiedel had nothing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,070 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 They should include it as a bonus dialogue Duel of the Fates style track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hmm, I guess I always associated that sound as part of the original score and not just post-production tinkering. Here is the excerpt from the 2014 interview with Van Ling conducted by The Digital Bits: Quote Coate: Which sound mix of the film do you prefer: the original mono or the multichannel remix? Ling: A tough question, but I think I lean towards the mono just because it was the original. I was the producer of the initial remix done by the great Gary Rydstrom back in 2000, and while I think he did an excellent job, there is something monolithic yet raw about the original mono mix that fits the film. Also, we found out later that there was a glaring omission in the remix, which was the metallic sounds—almost like that of a sword being drawn from a scabbard—of the letters in the title sliding past each other in the main titles. It turned out that the reason they were missing in the remix was that they were not on either the sound effects or the music masters for the film… they were on the dialogue stems for some reason. And those stems had been muted during the remix since there was no dialogue during the main titles! Lame explanation, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Great But Terminator 2 full soundtrack will never be a thing will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,662 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Seems so I believe the last we heard was that no one, including Fiedel, had any idea where the elements might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Was there anything essential that was left off the 1991 OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,662 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The chase through that canal in L.A. is pretty damn cool. I haven't seen the film in ages, so I don't remember what else there might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Lots of material was left off. The music for the arrivals of both Terminators. And basically all of the material between the main titles and "Sarah On The Run". I still hold out hope that the production team behind the 2003 Extreme DVD has copies of the complete score; how else could snippets of unreleased music appear all over the menus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,662 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It would be astounding if that team did have the sessions, yet Silva's expansion attempts didn't cross their path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I heard a little differently. Apparently Fiedel does have the original stems but didn't trust Silva to do the expansion as he thought they were a small label. If this sells well enough, perhaps he can be persuaded to do Terminator 2 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 Today I am listening to my old "Definite Edition" from Cinerama records, and was reminded about this Milan edition I never picked up. What does JWFan think of this Milan version? Does there exist anywhere a comprehensive listing of what's unique to each of the 3 releases, and the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 These two scores are fantastic in the films, but I find them to have very limited mileage as standalones. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Jay said: Today I am listening to my old "Definite Edition" from Cinerama records, and was reminded about this Milan edition I never picked up. What does JWFan think of this Milan version? Does there exist anywhere a comprehensive listing of what's unique to each of the 3 releases, and the film? None of the three releases are complete, but the Milan release is the closest to the film mix. I tried to put together a Google doc comparing cues across all of the releases, but at some point I lost interest in covering the whole film; you can find it here. I'm a bigger fan of the second film's score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 Thanks for that! It seems I gotta grab this Milan version; Looks like its OOP now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I posted a pic of the" best" version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 From what I gather, the Milan release was mixed as Brad Fiedel intended it to be. It's a pity it's not complete, but it definitely sounds better in several places over the Definite Edition version. Also, the tracks are rendered in stereo, whereas some of the tracks in the Definite Version were in mono (such as the Main Titles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I hope one of the boutique labels comes to the rescue with a "Brad Fiedel Terminator Collection" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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