Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 hmmm probably in the film bond will work on his own outside MI6. the new 007 girl will help him. the will continue retired...or die. If the femaler character works and people like her...she will probably be the new "bond" for the future films. So 007 will remain for the franchise but with name change with every reboot when the actor/actress gets too old. so we will see very diverse "bonds" if the future...wich seems what some people wanted (instead of creating original films about secret agents...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 They'll add another 0 to 007. It seems infinite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,345 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 After some of the other title rumours ('Genoma Of A Woman', anyone? Yeah, thought not) No Time To Die is fine by me. This is actually only the 4th time in 25 movies that 'Die' has featured in the title, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: hmmm probably in the film bond will work on his own outside MI6. the new 007 girl will help him. the will continue retired...or die. If the femaler character works and people like her...she will probably be the new "bond" for the future films. So 007 will remain for the franchise but with name change with every reboot when the actor/actress gets too old. so we will see very diverse "bonds" if the future...wich seems what some people wanted (instead of creating original films about secret agents...) Better end it if that's their plan. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 That won't be their plan at all. James Bond is a cis white male and always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Things change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 James Bond Will Return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 In The Avengers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ludwig 1,120 Posted August 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2019 20 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Sounds like it came from an online Bond title autogenerator. Here are some titles this generator came up with - looks like they fit right in: Naïve Old Fart, Fabulin, Unlucky Bastard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixie_twinkle 48 Posted August 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2019 Those are fantastic! Unlucky Bastard, DarthDementous, Fabulin and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Both are funny as! GOLD starring Roger Moore, is a good film. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 No time to die Dr. Jones! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: hmmm probably in the film bond will work on his own outside MI6. the new 007 girl will help him. the will continue retired...or die. If the femaler character works and people like her...she will probably be the new "bond" for the future films. Naah, Bond will shag her and get his 007 back, and we’ll never hear from her again. So, random, but, I made a list of the actors’ ages when they did James Bond movies: Sean Connery 32-41; 53 - average 38 George Lazenby 30 - average 30 Roger Moore 45-57 - average 51 Timothy Dalton 41-43 - average 42 Pierce Brosnan 42-49 - average 45 Daniel Craig 38-52 - average 45 Kind of interesting how originally James Bond was a young man, but now he’s a daddy figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Time To Fail Again sounds about right. Especially with that composer. Holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Pellaeon said: Naah, Bond will shag her and get his 007 back, and we’ll never hear from her again. So, random, but, I made a list of the actors’ ages when they did James Bond movies: Sean Connery 32-41; 53 - average 38 George Lazenby 30 - average 30 Roger Moore 45-57 - average 51 Timothy Dalton 41-43 - average 42 Pierce Brosnan 42-49 - average 45 Daniel Craig 38-52 - average 45 Kind of interesting how originally James Bond was a young man, but now he’s a daddy figure. He never looked or came off that young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Pellaeon said: Naah, Bond will shag her and get his 007 back, and we’ll never hear from her again. So, random, but, I made a list of the actors’ ages when they did James Bond movies: Sean Connery 32-41; 53 - average 38 George Lazenby 30 - average 30 Roger Moore 45-57 - average 51 Timothy Dalton 41-43 - average 42 Pierce Brosnan 42-49 - average 45 Daniel Craig 38-52 - average 45 Kind of interesting how originally James Bond was a young man, but now he’s a daddy figure. I think Bond is the one single original mainstream hero that is meant to be an older man. I might actually think that a Bond younger than 35 might be too young. Bond has to be an older man. A worldly man. A man with experience. I think you get that sense from the books too. You never think of Bond as a young man. I think that would be a wrong reading of the character. I think Bond is and has always been adult entertainment despite its rating. Marketing will tell you otherwise and want it to be a four quadrant blockbuster. But it is by its nature a franchise aimed at older audiences. I could easily see it with an R rating and always wondered that they never ever tried with that. But I guess the US rating system leads the way so they are stuck in the PG13 groove. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I fucked up, didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 So I haven't really been paying attention to the developments with this film, but noticed recently that Neal Purvis and Robert Wade aren't the primary writers of this one, after they have been on every Bond film since TWINE. Fukunaga himself co-wrote the script with some dude I'd never heard of named Scott Z. Burns.... and then they brought in Phoebe Waller-Bridge to, according to the source used on the wikipedia article, "provided a script polish in April 2019 to add more humour and to make the characters more believable" PWB is someone who wasn't on my radar whatsoever until a few weeks ago, when we started watching her TV show (she writes every episode and stars in it), Fleabag. Fleabag is pretty funny, but it's also super dark, and I later realized she's the same writer who created Killing Eve, which we also watched. Killing Eve is about British intelligence agents, so that gives her some pedigree to be hired to this I guess... however while season 1 of Killing Eve was fine, season 2 was a clustercuddle of lame writing, Wikipedia says she wasn't the head writer for season 2 though, and no episodes are credited to her, so maybe she wasn't that involved. Anyways, if the kind of humor she's adding to the script is similar to the Fleabag style of comedy, I can't see that meshing with the current Bond films at all, but I suppose she's probably talented enough to have a good idea of the right kind of humor to add. I also saw this on Wikipedia "Producer Barbara Broccoli announced that Bond's attitude towards women would change in No Time to Die as a response to the Me Too movement. Waller-Bridge argued that the character of Bond had to stay true to its original creation and that it was the responsibility of the wider film industry to treat women more respectfully." Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I'm sure it'll be much ado about nothing, the purported change in attitude. Bond has always changed with the times to some degree. Who can forget Judi Dench calling Brosnan a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 11:20 AM, Jay said: some dude I'd never heard of named Scott Z. Burns Burns actually co-wrote The Bourne Ultimatum and was the main writer on a handful of Soderbergh thrillers, like The Informant, Contagion and The Laundromat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Edmilson said: The Informant, Contagion and The Laundromat. I really like the first two and I'm looking forward to the latter! I didn't realize Contagion had haters until recently, I thought it was a fun disaster thriller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Yea I liked Contagion too! I've liked every Soderbergh film I've seen I think, other than the disappointing Ocean's sequels that didn't need to exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Watch Daniel Craig’s “really quite drunk” farewell speech to James Bond crew as ‘No Time To Die’ wraps Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 10:38 AM, Disco Stu said: I really like the first two and I'm looking forward to the latter! I didn't realize Contagion had haters until recently, I thought it was a fun disaster thriller. On 9/27/2019 at 10:44 AM, Jay said: Yea I liked Contagion too! I've liked every Soderbergh film I've seen I think, other than the disappointing Ocean's sequels that didn't need to exist I really enjoyed Contagion as well. Cool electronic score from Martinez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 7:24 AM, Disco Stu said: I'm sure it'll be much ado about nothing, the purported change in attitude. Bond has always changed with the times to some degree. Who can forget Judi Dench calling Brosnan a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur." I relic of the Cold War... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,345 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I don't expect or particularly want to see the likes of Bond 'forcing himself' on Pussy Galore from Goldfinger, threatening to break Andrea's arm unless she tells him what she wants to know from Golden Gun or 'playfully' slapping Moneypenny's arse from The Living Daylights ... it's 2019, after all. That said, 'woke' Bond sounds quite cringeworthy so Waller-Bridge's comment that the industry has to change as opposed to the character is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I really enjoyed Contagion as well. Cool electronic score from Martinez! Martinez. The man! SOLARIS rocks, and,TRAFFIC is currently #6 on my all-time top-ten OST list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 9/28/2019 at 12:20 AM, Jay said: I also saw this on Wikipedia "Producer Barbara Broccoli announced that Bond's attitude towards women would change in No Time to Die as a response to the Me Too movement. Waller-Bridge argued that the character of Bond had to stay true to its original creation and that it was the responsibility of the wider film industry to treat women more respectfully." Let the films tell the stories they want, let everyone else make their own minds up on the current climate. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I liked when he shot Elektra at point blank range. Bitch had it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Bond is a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur", and long may he continue as one. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Is that the ultimate appeal of the character though? Bond has evolved a lot through the decades, EON always trying to go with the times. Why should this be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I see what you're saying, Steef, but it comes back to this: Bond kills people for a living. He kills who he has to, when he has to, where he has to, and how he has to. Sometimes, that includes women. He said so, in SPECTRE. There's no way that can be made "PC". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Your point being? Why don't you judge after seeing what they'll do with it rather than before? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Shitty composer, shitty title, shitty concept, and shitty politics, too. I hate this film already. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard said: I see what you're saying, Steef, but it comes back to this: Bond kills people for a living. He kills who he has to, when he has to, where he has to, and how he has to. Sometimes, that includes women. He said so, in SPECTRE. There's no way that can be made "PC". He's just a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He's an instrument of the State! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweeping Strings 2,345 Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 A 'blunt instrument' ... it's in Fleming, and has been referenced in the movies. Vesper betrayed him, then effectively committed suicide. Tracy was murdered within minutes of their wedding. Bond treats women as passing pleasures because he knows that when he commits, they end up dead and he's heartbroken (incidentally, this doesn't bode well for Seydoux's Madeline or, come to that, Lynch's 'new 007' if he's to get the number back by NTTD's end) . I wish all the misogyny-accusers would get this through their thick fucking skulls. Edmilson, Chen G. and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, gkgyver said: Shitty composer, shitty title, shitty concept, and shitty politics, too. I hate this film already. Wow. We all know you’re still gonna see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Richard said: He kills who he has to, when he has to, where he has to, and how he has to. Sometimes, that includes women. But that also describes John Wick, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Richard said: Bond is a "sexist, misogynist dinosaur", and long may he continue as one. Wasn't he temporarily a henpecked sissy in the shape of Dalton who portrayed him as 'the new man'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Really? If you think that you obviously don't know anything about Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Maybe you like him for those reasons, Steef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Edmilson said: But that also describes John Wick, lol. I'm afraid I don't know who John Wick, lol is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 So you think Brosnan and Moore were more manly Bond's that Dalton? Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 So you think that's air you're breathing, Steef? Hmmm.... No interpretation of Bond is particularly "manly". A real man wouldn't even contemplate doing what Bond does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He's a hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 To whom? All the women he's fucked? All the corrupt governments he's killed for? All the women who want him? All the men who want to be him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 What’s wrong with fucking women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, Richard said: I'm afraid I don't know who John Wick, lol is. No? He's the main character of his trilogy, played by Keanu Reeves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wick All of the three movies are great. Reeves gives a fine performance, the fight/chase scenes are brilliantly choreographed and the worldbuilding is impressive. Also, the character is probably the best action hero new to the movies since Damon's Bourne, so I recommend you checking out the movies. In any case, the joke was that this stuff of killing anybody he has to describes almost every action hero, not only Bond. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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