No Time To Die (James Bond #25)

[Jay 37,322]

MGM is waiting until 30 days before the release date to decide whether to push back to 2022 (the film series' 60th anniversary) or not

 

That's about a month from now

[TheUlyssesian 2,473]

You can kinda sense where this is heading.

 

I think the reason is without perhaps 600-700 mil at BO, this movie loses money.

[WampaRat 1,105]

🤣 

so.

so.

sad. 

[Edmilson 7,398]

My gosh, this movie was supposed to come out in late 2019. 

[Jay 37,322]

Only the aborted Danny Boyle version was.

By the time Fukunaga came onboard it was an April 2020 movie.  Then covid made it October 2020, then April 2021, then October 2021, then ... ?

[greenturnedblue 372]

8 hours ago, Jay said:

By the time Fukunaga came onboard it was an April 2020 movie.  Then covid made it October 2020, then April 2021, then October 2021, then ... ?

perpetually 'coming soon'

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Wonder if they regret aborting the Boyle version and pushing things back right now? Seems to be stuck in an endless cycle of delays. I don't really understand their endgame here; each delay just adds to their mounting losses and makes turning a profit that much harder.

 

Moving forward they should probably re-evaluate the ballooning budgets being sunk into these films. Are they even viable post-COVID?

 

A new actor playing the lead seems like a good opportunity to hit the reset button and go the Casino Royale route.

[toothless 963]

Will Nokia still exist by then so they have to photoshop new phones in there again?

[Jay 37,322]

Yes, whatever "upcoming" phones and cars and whatever else they had on set when this was filmed in 2019 are all surely out by now.

 

Back in January there were articles about them having to spend millions of dollars to get newer products in the film instead, but it's unclear if that actually happened or not.

 

If it gets delayed to 2022 they will probably have to do that again, if they already did it...

[Jay 37,322]

'No Time To Die' delayed in Australia and New Zealand

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

#renamedthemovie: 'No Time To Release'

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Not strictly NTTD related, but interesting Bond news. Martin Campbell has seemingly thrown his hat into the ring to direct the next film, despite previously only being interested in returning to the franchise to direct Casino Royale. 

 

One person who will happily help the pair out is Martin Campbell. The filmmaker helped launch Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig’s tenures with “Goldeneye” and “Casino Royale” respectively – delivering two of the best films in the franchise in the process.

 

Out doing promotional rounds for “The Protege” this week,” Campbell was asked by Collider if he would consider returning to direct the next film. He seems keen and obviously gets along well with the producers:

 

“Oh yeah, I would certainly consider it. I enjoy doing Bond. And also, the two producers are great to work with. You’re pretty much given a free hand to – everybody obviously participates in the script, and Casino I had Paul Haggis who did a terrific job with the script. He did the final draft.

 

But the two producers are great to work with, and they don’t interfere at all if they think you’re on the right track, and everything else they just let you get on with it. They support you all the way. It’s an enjoyable experience.”

[WampaRat 1,105]

Fascinating. Seems He’s only interested in introducing the new Bonds. I think he’s a great director when given the right material. (The Mask of Zorro is probably my all time favorite Martin Campbell directed film. Odd that it’s sequel, also directed by Cambell, was such a let down)

 

But I digress. Craig’s last bond film may never ever get released.

[Jay 37,322]

 

I guess that means there's 

 

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No Time To Delay

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

I see Broccoli and Wilson also said that despite Amazon now owning MGM, a Bond TV series won't be happening. 

[Jay 37,322]

Can't get more official that they are sticking to their release date than this I suppose

 

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No Time To Die will release in the UK and Ireland from 30 September 2021 through Universal Pictures International and in the U.S on 8 October through MGM via their United Artists Releasing banner.

 

https://www.007.com/no-time-to-die-world-premiere/

[Tallguy 3,381]

So. They can put this flick on hold (some more), cast a NEW bond. And put the films out within months of each other!

[greenturnedblue 372]

They coulda made a whole other Bond movie while this one has been in limbo!

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1 hour ago, greenturnedblue said:

They coulda made a whole other Bond movie while this one has been in limbo!

 

Yeah it really feels like they've been sitting on their hands for two years now and not being proactive about casting, directing or writing for the next film.

 

They've had plenty of time to write and polish an entire script since the original release date for NTTD. The directing choice is super obvious. Casting will be the hardest part, but it's not like they haven't had time to do their research.

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

Michael G Wilson is now 79. Maybe he's enjoying the pandemic-provided opportunity to 'take the weight off' a little, lol.  

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

On 8/22/2021 at 5:56 PM, Jay said:

Can't get more official that they are sticking to their release date than this I suppose

 

Well, they could invite the Queen, I'd say that would pretty much make it a lock.

[Jay 37,322]

MGM screened the first 9 minutes of the film at CinemaCon

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

And it seems CinemaBlend were impressed -

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2572481/we-saw-brand-new-no-time-to-die-action-scene-daniel-craig-wow

[greenturnedblue 372]

They've had seven years to make this movie it had better be perfect

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The new trailer doesn't inspire much confidence in this film. Everything looks way too serious and dour for my liking. Everyone standing around delivering dreary, monotonous lines about how serious everything is.

 

Remember when Bond movies were fun ?

 

 

[Jay 37,322]

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I don't think Craig smiles once in the entire trailer.

 

Reminds me of the miserable slog that was Spectre.

[toothless 963]

It's crazy how different these two new trailers are!

 

 

 

 

I do prefer the international version.

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I only saw the US trailer earlier. The international trailer is substantially better and gives a very different impression of the film. 

[badbu 123]

i also prefer the international version

[Jay 37,322]

Wow, just watched both trailers and the International trailer is indeed much better than the US trailer.

But both show lots of cool stuff.  I will enjoying seeing this film in the cinema if it is safe to do so

[Edmilson 7,398]

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Being James Bond, from MGM, will stream exclusively on the Apple TV app as a free rental ahead of the theatrical release of No Time To Die, the 25th installment of the storied franchise.

 

The 45-minute retrospective features Daniel Craig reflecting on his 15 years playing Bond, with never-before-seen archival footage from his oeuvre and conversations with 07 producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. It will be available for free to Apple TV customers in over 30 countries and regions from September 7 through October 7. No Time To Die, Craig’s last outing as Bond, will be released in theaters on Sept. 30 in the U.K. through Universal Pictures International and in the U.S. on Oct. 8 through MGM via United Artists Releasing.

 

https://deadline.com/2021/08/being-james-bond-daniel-craig-apple-tv-no-time-to-die-1234824793/

[Jay 37,322]

15 years..... flew by so fast!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

It's felt like an eternal slog.  We were forced to suffer through the Craig era like Job tested by Satan.

[Anthony 572]

I wish they'd stop this whole "each movie is connected" nonsense. The "sequel" nature of Quantum Of Solace was a decent idea but poorly executed. Skyfall understood this and ignored continuity, then they tried to retcon everything back together again in Spectre which was a total shitshow. No Time To Die feels like it's still running on the fumes of that. This looks better than Spectre but still quite a few steps behind Casino Royale and Skyfall.

[Jay 37,322]

1 minute ago, Anthony said:

I wish they'd stop this whole "each movie is connected" nonsense. The "sequel" nature of Quantum Of Solace was a decent idea but poorly executed. Skyfall understood this and ignored continuity, then they tried to retcon everything back together again in Spectre which was a total shitshow. No Time To Die feels like it's still running on the fumes of that. This looks better than Spectre but still quite a few steps behind Casino Royale and Skyfall.

 

I agree 100% with all of this!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,507]

10 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

It's felt like an eternal slog.  We were forced to suffer through the Craig era like Job tested by Satan.

At least Job got his life back...and then some.

Will audiences be so fortunate?

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

19 hours ago, crumbs said:

The new trailer doesn't inspire much confidence in this film. Everything looks way too serious and dour for my liking. Everyone standing around delivering dreary, monotonous lines about how serious everything is.

 

Remember when Bond movies were fun ?

 

 

I wish they'd let go of the 'Bond/the 00 section is irrelevant because technology removes the need for 'field agents' ' angle ... yeah yeah yeah, if you pursue that through to its logical conclusion the franchise is over and I somehow doubt that's happening. 

Seeds of it were possibly sown in Goldeneye with M calling 007 a dinosaur and a Cold War relic.  

[Anthony 572]

Skyfall: "I’m frightened because our enemies are no longer known to us. They do not exist on the map, they are not nations, they are individuals."

 

No Time To Die: "You used to be able to get into a room with the enemy. Now they're just floating in the ether."

 

Repeating that old chestnut, eh? And then putting it in the trailer of all places?!

[Tallguy 3,381]

The first Craig movie (and by extension the second) lean on him being green and untested. Then the subsequent three move back into "You're and old man, Bond. It's time to move out of the way!"

 

The interesting thing about the Craig era is that it has lasted so LONG. He hasn't made nearly as many movies but he's been the longest serving Bond ever.

 

Does Bond end with the Broccoli's? I mean I guess Barbara is only 61. I just wonder what the direction will be once Craig shuffles off. People wondered if Bond was out of step when BROSNAN picked up the PPK.

[Jay 37,322]

1 minute ago, Tallguy said:

The first Craig movie (and by extension the second) lean on him being green and untested. Then the subsequent three move back into "You're and old man, Bond. It's time to move out of the way!"

 

Yes, this aspect of Skyfall really rubbed me the wong way, and the SPECTRE doubled-down on it.  This movie is the first time it makes sense to actually follow that angle, but now that it's the 3rd in a row it's just... well, we'll see I guess.  I try not to judge anything too much from trailers.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,507]

Watching these, and other, trailers for NTTD, confirms that Ben Wishaw's Q is, for me, still my second favourite character in the Craig era Bond. He's funny as, and he's my favourite Q.

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

It was a good idea to make him considerably younger and geekier, 'cause that's how tech wizards tend to be nowadays. The classic 'exasperated-but-just-about-underlined-with-respect' relationship between him and Bond remains, it's just played differently now.   

[Naïve Old Fart 9,507]

Exactly. It's still there, but it's not as obvious as Desmond Llewellyn.

That being said, Q did say "I really hate you, right now", in SPECTRE 

What I like about all the Qs - from Burton to Wishaw, and beyond - is that, although there is an antagonistic relationship, Q genuinely holds Bond in high regard.

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

I think it's returned. Bond's 'You're not retiring any time soon ... are you?' in TWINE says it all.  

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

Anyone else hoping they'll kill off Bond?

 

Not that he wouldn't be rebooted of course. But it would be nice to put a bow on this era and finally have a death scene for Bond. I wouldn't be surprised if Craig, as an actor, really wanted one. I mean, I know it's unlikely, they want to keep up the fiction that these films are one continuity, and I doubt they'd have the courage anyway. But it's something I'd personally like to see.

[Sweeping Strings 2,346]

I kinda appreciated the fact that the series had ran for 40 years with its own (admittedly fairly loose) continuity before they rebooted with Craig, and am not overly keen on the idea of it now happening with each new lead actor or whatever. I never struggled with the idea that the world around Bond ages, but he himself only does so from 35-50 (roughly) and then loops back around ... but some clearly do, giving rise to the irritating 'James Bond is a codename given to whoever is MI6's most effective operative at the time' theory (which ignores both Skyfall making it clear that Bond is the FAMILY name and what I like to call 'the Tracy evidence').       

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

It's hard for me to imagine the next Bond picking up any of the Craig continuity, that version of Bond is so closely tied with Daniel Craig that it's just hard to imagine. Plus they've sort of painted Bond into a corner at this point. It's hard to see where that Bond goes from here, which is why I thought they might kill him off. Or at least retire him to some island somewhere.

 

Whatever they do with the next one, I hope we don't get another origin story. I don't need to see how Bond got his 007 status. Give me a Bond who's already an experienced and ruthless operative and I'll be happy.

 

Agree that the "codename" theory is idiotic.

[Tallguy 3,381]

2 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Agree that the "codename" theory is idiotic.

 

Yes it is.

 

But what do I know? I thought they should have recast Carrie Fisher in The Rise of Skywalker.

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

But what do I know? I thought they should have recast Carrie Fisher in The Rise of Skywalker.

 

Now THAT is idiotic.