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No Time To Die (James Bond #25)


Jay

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ConventionaI wisdom. This Oregon female is the 4th person in her graduating class to die under mysterious circumstances. Now when convention and science offer us no answers might we not finally turn to the fantastic as a plausibility?

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We already ranked the Brosnan Bonds back in page 3 if anyone wants to go back.  Here was mine

 

On 9/5/2016 at 6:15 PM, Jay said:

My opinion of the Brosnan Bonds:

 

Goldeneye: Great Bond film!

 

TND: Great action film!

 

TWINE: Has all the right elements to make a great Bond film,  but somehow, something is missing. I can't put my finger on it.

 

DAD: Garbage. 

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13 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

1. SPECTRE

2. Die Another Day

3. GoldenEye

4. Casino Royale

5. Tomorrow Never Dies

6. Skyfall

7. The World Is Not Enough

8. Quantum of Solace

 

This list reminds me that I'm actually not a Bond fan. 

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Doesn't look I did a ranking back then.

 

I am however much more confident in my opinions on the forum nowadays (I was pretty green back in September '16)

On 9/5/2016 at 6:32 PM, Disco Stu said:

The Goldeneye score is definitely guilty pleasure of mine. I like listening to it, but probably because it was wallpaper for much of my childhood.

 

I can just say that I like the Goldeneye score now.  No need for a guilty pleasure qualifier.

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I think it's the time for me to say, the only good Bond films are the ones with Sean Connery, and the one with Lazenby.

 

Period.

 

:pfft:

 

Ok + Casino Royale with Craig.

 

😀

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On 9/5/2016 at 11:15 PM, Jay said:

My opinion of the Brosnan Bonds:

 

Goldeneye: Great Bond film!

 

TND: Great action film!

 

TWINE: Has all the right elements to make a great Bond film,  but somehow, something is missing. I can't put my finger on it.

 

DAD: Garbage. 

 

This is reasonable.

 

Hey, and I liked it back in 2016!

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Just now, Nick1066 said:

 

This is reasonable.

 

Hey, and I liked it back in 2016!

 

You were here then?  I know you were a member, but I was pretty sure you were in a period of inactivity when I first joined the forum.

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3 minutes ago, Bespin said:

I think it's the time for me to say, the only good Bond films are the ones with Sean Connery, and the one with Lazenby.

 

Period.

 

This can't possibly be true given that The Spy Who Love Me is the greatest Bond film evah. 

 

It's the biggest! It's the best! It's Bond! And Beyond!

 

1 minute ago, Disco Stu said:

Roger Moore is the best one!

 

Damn you for making me give you a like.

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2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Roger Moore is the best one!

 

Here is Roger Moore's Main Theme in James Bond:

 

 

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1 minute ago, Disco Stu said:

 

You were here then?  I know you were a member, but I was pretty sure you were in a period of inactivity when I first joined the forum.

 

I was. You're the reason I stayed away, I kept hoping you'd go away. 

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37 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

Personally, I'd reach for Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies before either of those.  The last 8 includes both of them.

 

I can't get over the miscast of Pierce Brosnan. I never bought him as Bond.

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1 hour ago, Stefancos said:

 

Not a great score by any means

 

 

You wont find me making any grand arguments that it is, but it’s one of my most listened to Barry Bonds (heh)

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9 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 

I can't get over the miscast of Pierce Brosnan. I never bought him as Bond.

 

Same goes for Dalton, who is actually a very good and underrated drama actor, but unfortunately not Bond material.

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41 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

You don't even like Bond.  Why bother having an opinion on the details?

 

Hmm ...Just because I'm not a big fan of Bond doesn't mean I don't have any preferences, Disco. I thought Daniel Craig made the films way more watchable for me (as opposed to the Brosnan/Dalton ones). 

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17 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 

I can't get over the miscast of Pierce Brosnan. I never bought him as Bond.

 

Brosnan was excellent as Bond. He retained some of Moore's humour but cut it with a bit of a hard edge. Not the Bond of the books, of course, but a great cinematic Bond.

 

7 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

 

Same goes for Dalton, who is actually a very good and underrated drama actor, but unfortunately not Bond material.

 

Same goes for Dalton...he was also a great Bond, and probably the closest in characterisation to what Fleming wrote.  He only did two films, only one of which was very good, but his portrayal has a lot of fans. 

 

Actually, Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig have all been very good Bonds in their own way.  Even if they were sometimes hampered by poor or mediocre films.

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PS: This comment is from a gay man.

 

Connery = REAL MAN (ROARRRRR)

Lazenby = REAL MAN

Moore = A gigolo, a dandy

Dalton =  A Sissy (don't watch me in the eyes or I will cry)

Brosnan = A Sissy (I broke a fingernail!)

Craig = REAL MAN 

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7 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

He only did two films, only one of which was very good

 

I like Licence to Kill much more than I know I should because it was one of the four Bond movies I owned on VHS as a kid.  Licence to Kill, The Man With the Golden Gun, Goldeneye, and Tomorrow Never Dies.  But yes, The Living Daylights is the only really good one he did.  And it's one of my favorite Bond films actually.

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5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

I like Licence to Kill much more than I know I should because it was one of the four Bond movies I owned on VHS as a kid.  Licence to Kill, The Man With the Golden Gun, Goldeneye, and Tomorrow Never Dies.  But yes, The Living Daylights is the only really good one he did.  And it's one of my favorite Bond films actually.

 

Indeed, great film.  Even with that whole Bond helping the Taliban thing. :)  That didn't age so well!

 

13 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

Same goes for Dalton...he was also a great Bond, and probably the closest in characterisation to what Fleming wrote.

 

9 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

Ehhh wasn't Dalton often cited as the cinematic Bond closest to the book Bond?

 

Errrr...why yes.

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8 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

I like Licence to Kill much more than I know I should because it was one of the four Bond movies I owned on VHS as a kid.  Licence to Kill, The Man With the Golden Gun, Goldeneye, and Tomorrow Never Dies.  But yes, The Living Daylights is the only really good one he did.  And it's one of my favorite Bond films actually.

 

License To Kill is EON doing an 80's American action film (South America, drugs, Michael kamen score etc), and doing rather a good job at it. I like it it. The direction is a bit bland but the stunts are great. And Robert Davi is an excellent villain.

 

1 minute ago, Disco Stu said:

It was the 80s!  They were fightin' the dirty Soviets!

 

These day's we're all friends with the Russians, right?

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5 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

License To Kill is EON doing an 80's American action film (South America, drugs, Michael kamen score etc), and doing rather a good job at it. I like it it. The direction is a bit bland but the stunts are great. And Robert Davi is an excellent villain.

 

As I remember it, I like that movie A LOT up until the third act when they go to the weird religious cult retreat place that serves as the front for Sanchez's operations.  Wayne Newton and the "Bless your heart!" stuff.

 

I loved the action sequence with the tanker truck :) 

 

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55 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

 

Mujahadin, actually.

 

Rambo III has the same problem.

 

Right you are. My bad. Entirely different country!

 

53 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

License To Kill is EON doing an 80's American action film (South America, drugs, Michael kamen score etc), and doing rather a good job at it. I like it it. The direction is a bit bland but the stunts are great. And Robert Davi is an excellent villain.

 

I don't like it.  It does have some good action pieces, and Robert Davi is in fact good.  And Dalton is excellent, it might even be a better performance than The Living Daylights.

 

But as you point out, the direction isn't, er, great. The photography is ugly, the production values are low (even cheap) and the whole thing has a TV movie look about it. I also think it's a little too violent, even for a Bond film to be frank.  And even though the Bond films really aren't "fantasy", I think there's a certain Jame Bond zone that should transport you to that world which I think LTK lacks.

 

It's a polarising film. Most Bond fans, I think, rank it pretty low, but there are a small passionate group that really love it. But I put it at the bottom with Die Another Day and Quantum.

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