Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Now THAT is idiotic. Meh. I was less interested in Fisher being the only person to play Leia than I was that the character should get a proper ending. Whatever you think of JJ I can't imagine that it wouldn't have been a better film if they weren't weaving around the heart of the story not being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Tallguy said: I thought they should have recast Carrie Fisher in The Rise of Skywalker. I think you mean "I think they should have recast Princess Leia, in The Rise Of Skywalker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I think you mean "I think they should have recast Princess Leia, in The Rise Of Skywalker" If you want to take half measures, sure. (Yes, yes, you're right of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 21 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: It's hard for me to imagine the next Bond picking up any of the Craig continuity, that version of Bond is so closely tied with Daniel Craig that it's just hard to imagine. Plus they've sort of painted Bond into a corner at this point. It's hard to see where that Bond goes from here, which is why I thought they might kill him off. Or at least retire him to some island somewhere. Whatever they do with the next one, I hope we don't get another origin story. I don't need to see how Bond got his 007 status. Give me a Bond who's already an experienced and ruthless operative and I'll be happy. Agree that the "codename" theory is idiotic. Spoiler Thing is, apparently Bond begins NTTD as an 'island retiree' already ... he and Madeline are domestically blissful in Jamaica, but the threat that Safin poses is grave enough that he's 'pulled back in'. In his absence, Lashana Lynch's agent has been given the '007' number ... now, I'd say that NTTD MUST end with Bond getting 007 back and returning to active service. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 Fer cryin' out loud?! How many times has Bond died, left, resigned, or just given up on, MI6? Honestly, it's getting old. bruce marshall, Edmilson and Drawgoon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Er, pretty sure he's never died (unless you're counting his faked death in YOLT and the 'missing presumed dead' in Skyfall). Oh, and the brief bit of audience wrong-footing at the start of FRWL. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 To be fair they fake killed him in Skyfall. At least I think it was Skyfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Fer cryin' out loud?! How many times has Bond died, left, resigned, or just given up on, MI6? Honestly, it's getting old. The movies would kill him at the beginning of the story. The books would kill him at the end. Most permanently at the end of From Russia With Love. Going from memory: Left Universal Exports at the end of Casino Royale, comes back when Vesper kills herself. Killed at the end of From Russia With Love. Dr. No: Only mostly dead but gets his Walther. Leaves at the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, comes back... Well, you know. Leaves the 00 division at the beginning of You Only Live Twice (becomes 777?), presumed killed at the end but actually has amnesia and heads to the Soviet Union. Man with the Golden Gun: comes back brainwashed and tries to kill M, sent on a suicide mission. At this point Fleming doesn't survive. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: To be fair they fake killed him in Skyfall. At least I think it was Skyfall. They didn't "fake" anything. Officially, Bond was dead. We see M writing his obituary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: They didn't "fake" anything. Officially, Bond was dead. We see M writing his obituary. Huh. Well then who was it that drove M up to Scotland? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: They didn't "fake" anything. Officially, Bond was dead. We see M writing his obituary. 1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Huh. Well then who was it that drove M up to Scotland? The same fellow that was in The Man with the Golden Gun after M wrote the same obituary in You Only Live Twice. Oh, I see. The writers "fake" killed him. But the characters genuinely believed he was dead. It wasn't any kind of scheme. (Like in the film of YOLT.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Arnold does his Zimmer impression Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,395 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 No Time to Die will run for 163 minutes (!), making it the longest Bond movie ever made: https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/no-time-to-die-runtime-venom-1234663377/ Actually, of all the Craig Bond movies, only Quantum of Solace doesn't run for over 140 minutes. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 According to Wiki, QUANTUM OF SOLACE is a tight 106 minutes, which makes it the shortest Bond film, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 106 minutes is tight! MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,395 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: According to Wiki, QUANTUM OF SOLACE is a tight 106 minutes, which makes it the shortest Bond film, ever. In other words, Craig is responsible for both the shortest and the longest Bond movies ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Well in the case of QoS I think it's probably the writers' strike at the time that was responsible. (I've heard Craig and the director had to write a huge chunk of it themselves!) Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 11:23 AM, Sweeping Strings said: Hide contents Thing is, apparently Bond begins NTTD as an 'island retiree' already ... he and Madeline are domestically blissful in Jamaica, but the threat that Safin poses is grave enough that he's 'pulled back in'. In his absence, Lashana Lynch's agent has been given the '007' number ... now, I'd say that NTTD MUST end with Bond getting 007 back and returning to active service. Spoiler Based on everything shown in the trailers, Bond and Madeline are in Italy and he shuttles her off after her apparent 'betrayal'. Bond appears to be in Jamaica alone. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,319 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Sweeping Strings, Yavar Moradi and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Aww, you can hear him get emotional at the end. Good to see ... there was so much crap about his 'Right now, I'd rather slit my wrists than play Bond again' comment in that interview the day after SPECTRE wrapped. Seems people ignored the 'Right now' bit and the likelihood that the guy was probably fucking exhausted ... Bond's a more physically demanding part than it used to be, since Dalton there's now an expectation that a large chunk of the stuntwork will visibly involve the lead. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Now that he's officially retired from the role, what's the goss on who might replace 007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 That's the end of the documentary that is on Apple TV+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Now that he's officially retired from the role, what's the goss on who might replace 007? Cillian Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, badbu said: Cillian Murphy I would prefer Henry Cavill with a mustache though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,395 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Do you agree or disagree with him? Daniel Craig: ‘Why Should a Woman Play Bond?’ Create Other Female Roles ‘Just as Good’ “There should simply be better parts for women and actors of color," Craig said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Agree. Lots. Quit making James Bond. Quit making Superman. Start making something else. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Super Bond and James Man coming up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 BvS: BONDMAN vs. SUPERJAMES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Edmilson said: Do you agree or disagree with him? Daniel Craig: ‘Why Should a Woman Play Bond?’ Create Other Female Roles ‘Just as Good’ “There should simply be better parts for women and actors of color," Craig said. He's right. For what it's worth, I'd prefer him to stay Caucasian too. There's no harm in some things remaining just as they are IMO, but i'll leave it there lest I incur 'political post' wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,395 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Cary Fukunaga Says Sean Connery’s Bond Is ‘Basically’ a Rapist: ‘That Wouldn’t Fly Today’ With "No Time to Die," Fukunaga tried to make the Bond franchise more progressive by changing the world around 007. Drax would be pissed off if he was still a JWFanner. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Who? Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,380 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Ahhh "The women in this Bond film will be different, this is really a step forward." Singing that song in Bond films since 1964. And hey, it's even been true in many cases. But they always act like they are the first. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Tallguy said: Ahhh "The women in this Bond film will be different, this is really a step forward." Singing that song in Bond films since 1964. And hey, it's even been true in many cases. But they always act like they are the first. Fiona Volpe, a different woman: takes a bullet in the back Domino, a different woman: gets porked by Bond, underwater Kizzy Suzuki, a different woman: dies by poisoning Tracey, a different woman: takes a bullet in the bonce Tiffany Case, a different woman: gets caught with a cassette stuffed down her bikini bottom Solitaire, a different woman: is "a complete woman" after being porked by Bond Mary Goodnight, a different woman: spends half the film in a multicoloured bikini Maj. Amasova, a different woman: does publicity photos in a red Speedo (don't believe me? Google it!) Whoever Lois Chiles played, a different woman: gets porked by Bond in zero gravity Octopussy, a different woman: turns after being porked by Bond Oh, yeah; they're different, all right! Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Quantum of Solace probably had the best recent 'bondwoman'. But then it also had Strawberry Fields, so we're back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I think Naomie Harris in Skyfall is great!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: I think Naomie Harris in Skyfall is great!!!! Yeah, she was...and that fucking M forgets her fucking birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 6:06 PM, Edmilson said: In other words, Craig is responsible for both the shortest and the longest Bond movies ever made. In fact Dr. No is the shortest Bond movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 According to Wiki., DR. NO is 109 minutes, while QUANTUM OF SOLACE is 106 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 24/09/2021 at 8:06 AM, Naïve Old Fart said: Fiona Volpe, a different woman: takes a bullet in the back Domino, a different woman: gets porked by Bond, underwater Kizzy Suzuki, a different woman: dies by poisoning Tracey, a different woman: takes a bullet in the bonce Tiffany Case, a different woman: gets caught with a cassette stuffed down her bikini bottom Solitaire, a different woman: is "a complete woman" after being porked by Bond Mary Goodnight, a different woman: spends half the film in a multicoloured bikini Maj. Amasova, a different woman: does publicity photos in a red Speedo (don't believe me? Google it!) Whoever Lois Chiles played, a different woman: gets porked by Bond in zero gravity Octopussy, a different woman: turns after being porked by Bond Oh, yeah; they're different, all right! Ahhh yes, but we now have Lashana Lynch as fellow agent and Bond equal Nomi who has actually been given the 007 number as it was available after his retirement. Seems James Bond isn't allowed to be an 'unchallenged' alpha male in his own franchise any more *eye-roll* . Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Uh, I know we don't like it at all, but Die Another Day already attempted a similar thing prior. YMMV on if it's even a good idea, but there's still enough to precedence to where you can't just say it's been done purely to appease modern standards or whatever you think allegedly influences movies now. (Both milestone movies too, I'm just noticing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Female agent allies have been a every-so-often thing in the series since the Moore era. But for the most part they have belonged to different intelligence agencies than MI6 and have at some point needed Bond to rescue them (even Jinx), classic 'damsel in distress' stylee. Something tells me we're more likely to see Nomi rescuing Bond than the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Doesn't agent Goodhead rescue Bond, in MOONRAKER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Doesn't agent Goodhead rescue Bond, in MOONRAKER? Agent Goodhead huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 A woman! That was her name, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Holly Goodhead's name was an invention of MR's scriptwriter but I like to think he was taking his lead from Fleming himself, with the likes of Honey Ryder and Pussy Galore being straight out of the novels. The 'last gasp' was in Casino Royale '06 I guess, with Bond winding Vesper up by telling her that the codename she'd been assigned was Stephanie Broadchest. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 92% fresh 8.3 rating 24 reviews Off to a good start. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/no_time_to_die_2021 crumbs, WampaRat and bruce marshall 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Stabilizing nicely, 90% fresh after 42 reviews. Great news! Happy to see Craig go out on a high after that slog Spectre... but please bring back Martin Campbell and David Arnold to launch the next Bond! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, crumbs said: Stabilizing nicely, 90% fresh after 42 reviews. Great news! Happy to see Craig go out on a high after that slog Spectre... but please bring back Martin Campbell and David Arnold to launch the next Bond! Yeah, bring back the oldies to start the new! Give it to Justin Hurwitz, would love to hear more from him. Or don't, this franchise has been surpassed by Mission Impossible anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Seeing it Friday night. Looking forward to it. wish I’d known who long it was before booking the 20:00 showing instead of 19:30. Oh well. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 From The Guardian's review - 'Craig’s final film as the diva of British intelligence is an epic barnstormer, with the script from Neal Purvis, Robert Wade, with Phoebe Waller-Bridge delivering pathos, action, drama, camp comedy (Bond will call M “darling” in moments of tetchiness), heartbreak, macabre horror, and outrageously silly old-fashioned action in a movie which calls to mind the world of Dr No on his island.' Sounds like pretty much everything you'd want from a Bond movie, and indeed from movies in general. Bilbo and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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