Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 That scene where he spanks her with the whip is very uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Stefancos said: "Why don't you ask me? "Bless your heart!" LTK has grown in stature, for me, since I saw it (in June, 1989, at the Odeon Marble Arch, since you asked). It really is unique. It looks, and feels like no other 007 film. People say that QOS was violent, but that's nothing compared to LTK: two shark-attacks, a stringing-up, someone blowing up in a pressure chamber, BdT getting mulched, and the main villain getting set on fire. It's not what was expected after the jolly romps OCTOPUSSY, and AVTAK. It really is Bond at its hardest, and it's all the better for it. If EON had played to America (kept the Bob Peak artwork, and emphasized the American cast...it can have KILL, the rest of the world can have REVOKED) it could have been a smash. The big problemo with LTK, is that, once he resigns from the country club sorry, Her Majesty's Government, he's no longer 007, he's just a guy out for revenge. Its a Bond film, but it's not a "Bond Film". Still, it's great fun to watch, with some nifty one liners, and good action sequences. I like it. Now, about that expanded score... Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Richard said: "Bless your heart!" LTK has grown in stature, for me, since I saw it (in June, 1989, at the Odeon Marble Arch, since you asked). It really is unique. It looks, and feels like no other 007 film. People say that QOS was violent, but that's nothing compared to LTK: two shark-attacks, a stringing-up, someone blowing up in a pressure chamber, BdT getting mulched, and the main villain getting set on fire. It's not what was expected after the jolly romps OCTOPUSSY, and AVTAK. It really is Bond at its hardest, and it's all the better for it. If EON had played to America (kept the Bob Peak artwork, and emphasized the American cast...it can have KILL, the feast of the world can have REVOKED). The big problemo with LTK, is that, once he resigns from the country club sorry, Her Majesty's Government, he's no longer 007, he's just a guy out for revenge. Its a Bond film, but it's not a "Bond Film". Still, it's great fun to watch, with some nifty one liners, and good action sequences. I like it. Now, about that expanded score... Best post of this week! I even like the expanded role for Q. Naïve Old Fart and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Thanks very much Q's "Ah! We must be related" always makes me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Richard said: LTK has grown in stature, for me, since I saw it (in June, 1989, at the Odeon Marble Arch, since you asked). It really is unique. It looks, and feels like no other 007 film. People say that QOS was violent, but that's nothing compared to LTK: two shark-attacks, a stringing-up, someone blowing up in a pressure chamber, BdT getting mulched, and the main villain getting set on fire. It's not what was expected after the jolly romps OCTOPUSSY, and AVTAK. It really is Bond at its hardest, and it's all the better for it. If EON had played to America (kept the Bob Peak artwork, and emphasized the American cast...it can have KILL, the rest of the world can have REVOKED) it could have been a smash. The big problemo with LTK, is that, once he resigns from the country club sorry, Her Majesty's Government, he's no longer 007, he's just a guy out for revenge. Its a Bond film, but it's not a "Bond Film". Still, it's great fun to watch, with some nifty one liners, and good action sequences. I like it. Now, about that expanded score... Worst post of the week! Except for the bit about it not really being a Bond film. That’s spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Richard said: Thanks very much Q's "Ah! We must be related" always makes me chuckle. You guys are bringing it all back to me. I'm willing to go on record now saying both Dalton Bonds are SPOT ON. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Right you are. My bad. Entirely different country! I don't like it. It does have some good action pieces, and Robert Davi is in fact good. And Dalton is excellent, it might even be a better performance than The Living Daylights. But as you point out, the direction isn't, er, great. The photography is ugly, the production values are low (even cheap) and the whole thing has a TV movie look about it. I also think it's a little too violent, even for a Bond film to be frank. And even though the Bond films really aren't "fantasy", I think there's a certain Jame Bond zone that should transport you to that world which I think LTK lacks. It's a polarising film. Most Bond fans, I think, rank it pretty low, but there are a small passionate group that really love it. But I put it at the bottom with Die Another Day and Quantum. Worst post of the week, apart from the bit about "my bad". That's spot on. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I will defend this film till my dying day....till my dying day....till my dying daaaaaay! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Turn the bloody machine off!!! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The best line in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Don't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,355 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Dalton was a proto-Craig ... the more down-to-Earth approach, more complexity to Bond's character and a harder edge to the violence are all there in Daylights/LTK. But the audience weren't really ready for it. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Brosnan was excellent as Bond. He retained some of Moore's humour but cut it with a bit of a hard edge. Not the Bond of the books, of course, but a great cinematic Bond. Same goes for Dalton...he was also a great Bond, and probably the closest in characterisation to what Fleming wrote. He only did two films, only one of which was very good, but his portrayal has a lot of fans. Actually, Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig have all been very good Bonds in their own way. Even if they were sometimes hampered by poor or mediocre films. I like to think of Brosnan as the... Let's say cosmopolitan Bond. Bond basically is a charming thug. I say this after reading all the books. I feel only Connery and Craig captured what I read in the book. And maybe Lazenby to some extent but his acting was suspect. What saves him though is the excellent film around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: Dalton was a proto-Craig ... the more down-to-Earth approach, more complexity to Bond's character and a harder edge to the violence are all there in Daylights/LTK. But the audience weren't really ready for it. Looks like he came to a dead end. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 6 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: I feel only Connery and Craig captured what I read in the book. I don't read Bond books but I know what you mean. I hope they don't go back to a more feminine Bond. Something tells me they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What feminine Bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: What feminine Bond? I’m pretty sure Roger Moore was in menopause in View to a Kill. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: What feminine Bond? What do you think I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Alexcremers said: What do you think I mean? No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 That surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I haven't seen any of them wearing a dress, eyeliner or carrying a handbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Looks like he came to a dead end. Not quite. EON wanted Dalton for GoldenEye, but, for some reason, he declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, Richard said: Not quite. EON wanted Dalton for GoldenEye, but, for some reason, he declined. It's a quote from LTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I haven't seen any of them wearing a dress, eyeliner or carrying a handbag. ...which is a lot less than Blofeld does 1 minute ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: It's a quote from LTK. Bless your heart. I know it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Richard said: ...which is a lot less than Blofeld does Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Wrong pussy. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Making mudpies, 007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,355 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I haven't seen any of them wearing a dress, eyeliner or carrying a handbag. Be careful what you wish for - Craig stars in character as Bond and Dench narrates as M in this clip made for International Women's Day, which manages to imply that gender inequality is all 007's fault. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What's wrong with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Jameth Bond mutht be more feminitht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Is it me, or is he really sexy, as a woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Danielle Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Richard said: Is it me, or is he really sexy, as a woman? As a non-cis transgender going through a transformation maybe, but not as a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2018 A woman? Sweeping Strings, Nick1Ø66, Naïve Old Fart and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard said: Is it me, or is he really sexy, as a woman? An old drag queen? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,355 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 21 hours ago, Stefancos said: What's wrong with it? The implication that gender inequality is Bond's fault. Seems that nowadays Bond must atone for being a 'love them and leave them' type, ignoring the fact that the 2 times when he fell in love properly (Vesper and Tracy) both women died as a result, leaving him broken-hearted and with the aforementioned (entirely understandable) attitude that relationships are impossible in his chosen profession. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Overreacting much? The PSA is not implicating that the gender inequalities of the world are the result of James Bond. They just used a characteristically sexist character to bring awareness to an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: The implication that gender inequality is Bond's fault. Seems that nowadays Bond must atone for being a 'love them and leave them' type, ignoring the fact that the 2 times when he fell in love properly (Vesper and Tracy) both women died as a result, leaving him broken-hearted and with the aforementioned (entirely understandable) attitude that relationships are impossible in his chosen profession. That's probably more your interpretation of it than what the video was actually stating. 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: Overreacting much? The PSA is not implicating that the gender inequalities of the world are the result of James Bond. They just used a characteristically sexist character to bring awareness to an issue. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 Purvis and Wade rehired to salvage Bond 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Good. I like their work. Yes, even DAD has its moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 How hard is it these days to make a Bond film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 In the era of MCUs, and DCUs, who needs a man with a PPK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Stefancos said: How hard is it these days to make a Bond film? Guess they jumped the gun on those press releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I want to see a return to the old Bond; drinking hard, smoking hard, fucking hard, slapping hard, whoreing hard, using women as human shields. Let's show these SJW, #meetoo bitches who's boss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 You could always just read the novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Richard said: I want to see a return to the old Bond; drinking hard, smoking hard, fucking hard, slapping hard, whoreing hard, using women as human shields. Let's show these SJW, #meetoo bitches who's boss! Classic Bond! Naïve Old Fart and leeallen01 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yeah, baby! That's what I'm talkin' about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Richard said: I want to see a return to the old Bond; drinking hard, smoking hard, fucking hard, slapping hard, whoreing hard, using women as human shields. Let's show these SJW, #meetoo bitches who's boss! Trump age Bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 hours ago, Stefancos said: How hard is it these days to make a Bond film? When you have to follow up Casino Royale and Skyfall? Yes, considerably hard. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just have Bond doing Bondian things with that cool music going. That shouldn't be that friggin' hard. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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