Quintus 5,399 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Blame Blumenkohl and Mark Olivarez! It's not like I've never tried to like him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I've been trying for 15 years. Nada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Almost time for another Olympics to start -- and NBC is still using JW's cues in abundance. Not just re-arrangements -- literally the original recordings conducted by JW. It's glorious. One of many examples is this video, which uses two of the cues JW crafted based on his 1996 "Summon the Heroes" piece: Bayesian and thx99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Bit of a shame nobody commissioned him to write a new theme over the past year! Hopefully for LA 2028, right? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, crumbs said: Bit of a shame nobody commissioned him to write a new theme over the past year! Hopefully for LA 2028, right? Yeah I'm really hoping he writes something for 2028. He has composed an original piece for the opening ceremonies of all three U.S.-hosted Olympics since 1984. Hopefully he continues that streak (even if he has to deputize someone else -- perhaps Dudamel -- to conduct this time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 The NBC/Williams relationship seems eternal. In addition to still using his Olympic themes, aren't they also still using his news themes (at the very least they still used "The Mission" when I was in the US last, in 2014)? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Thor said: The NBC/Williams relationship seems eternal. In addition to still using his Olympic themes, aren't they also still using his news themes (at the very least they still used "The Mission" when I was in the US last, in 2014)? Yes, they are. Plus there is also Wide Receiver, the theme for NBC’s broadcasts of NFL games. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Will said: Almost time for another Olympics to start -- and NBC is still using JW's cues in abundance. Not just re-arrangements -- literally the original recordings conducted by JW. It's glorious. One of many examples is this video, which uses two of the cues JW crafted based on his 1996 "Summon the Heroes" piece: Truly glorious. Also, looking forward to catching the Olympics, and not just to hear more of the Maestro’s music. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 18 hours ago, Thor said: The NBC/Williams relationship seems eternal. In addition to still using his Olympic themes, aren't they also still using his news themes (at the very least they still used "The Mission" when I was in the US last, in 2014)? Yep! Nightly News and Meet the Press still use his original cues. The Today Show did stop using JW's music entirely, unfortunately. But Sunday Night Football on NBC still uses his theme (as you note @Matt S.), albeit in a new "modern" arrangement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Will said: Almost time for another Olympics to start -- and NBC is still using JW's cues in abundance. Not just re-arrangements -- literally the original recordings conducted by JW. It's glorious. One of many examples is this video, which uses two of the cues JW crafted based on his 1996 "Summon the Heroes" piece: The excitement is intense; this makes me want to hear these cues in their entirety! Nothing is available to listen to, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnnyD said: This makes me want to hear these cues in their entirety. Nothing is available to listen to, huh? Here is the first one heard in the above video: It's amazing. Probably one of the most outwardly exuberant pieces JW ever composed. I don't think the second one is on YouTube, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Mike Mattessino and John Williams should collaborate with NBC to release a compilation album of these phenomenal cues! Will, thx99, Miguel Andrade and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Will said: But Sunday Night Football on NBC still uses his theme (as you note @Matt S.), albeit in a new "modern" arrangement: Yes, I noticed this when I was in the US in 2012, and found myself in a sports pub in San Diego on a Sunday night. I have no clue about American football, but I was amused by the pop- and rockified versions of the theme. It's much, much younger than the news themes, though. I'm impressed that the same news theme has been used for almost four decades. 4 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Mike Mattessino and John Williams should collaborate with NBC to release a compilation album of these phenomenal cues! There are a lot of cool versions. I have promo versions of all these, and although there are a lot of bumpers and intros/outros, there are also some longer tracks that are completely different in tone and even composition, it seems. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Thor said: Yes, I noticed this when I was in the US in 2012, and found myself in a sports pub in San Diego on a Sunday night. I have no clue about American football, but I was amused by the pop- and rockified versions of the theme. It's much, much younger than the news themes, though. I'm impressed that the same news theme has been used for almost four decades. There are a lot of cool versions. I have promo versions of all these, and although there are a lot of bumpers and intros/outros, there are also some longer tracks that are completely different in tone and even composition, it seems. Yeah the variations are excellent. This one is probably my favorite: https://www.networknewsmusic.com/today-2004-bumper/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Call John! Need a subscription to read that, but there are other articles around if interested. Will and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I love Olympics and its soundtrack! Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Will 2,215 Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 Wow NBC almost exclusively used JW's 1984 theme today for the Opening Ceremony! I think I only heard Arnaud's "Bugler's Dream" once (IIRC NBC used to use the Arnaud piece more frequently but in recent years seems to have further increased the prominence of JW's own compositions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Any chance of an on-demand viewing. I'll miss the first 45 minutes of encore presentation tonight at 7:30 PM EST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, JohnnyD said: Any chance of an on-demand viewing. I'll miss the first 45 minutes of encore presentation tonight at 7:30 PM EST. I'm not sure if a replay stream will be available online. NBC makes Olympic sport replays available here for people with a cable TV login (https://www.nbcolympics.com/replays), but I'm not sure if they'll do the same for the ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Being in the Olympics mood, I have been constantly listening to the Maestro's four Olympic pieces and his various, well, variations of his Olympic Fanfare, Olympic Spirit & Summon the Heroes, all while watching the different Olympic events unfold. However, I came across this: Does anybody know the story behind this piece? I never heard it before, was surprised to have come across it, and I like it very much. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Paging @thx99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 This as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 You can learn about "Dramatic Tease" in this thread: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23257-1992-nbc-olympics-broadcast-cd-new-williams-pieces/ Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: Being in the Olympics mood, I have been constantly listening to the Maestro's four Olympic pieces and his various, well, variations of his Olympic Fanfare, Olympic Spirit & Summon the Heroes, all while watching the different Olympic events unfold. However, I came across this: Does anybody know the story behind this piece? I never heard it before, was surprised to have come across it, and I like it very much. That’s “Contemporary Tease” which is also featured on the same in-house NBC CD that contains “Dramatic Tease” and is referenced in the thread @Jay linked to above (I think). Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Sweet. Nice to discover two additional variations by the Maestro. You learn something new. thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Kinda hilarious mess-up on NBC tonight -- coming back from a commercial break, they seemed not to be sure what music to play! First we heard the opening to the alternate Summon the Heroes variation. Then that cut off and we heard the beginning of a Summon the Heroes bumper. Then that cut off and we heard another, different Summon the Heroes bumper. Then it was silent. Clearly someone in the control room was having difficulties! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 So much choice JW, so little time! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 And yet, much of this music remains unreleased. Will, thx99 and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Interesting: Tonight, as we near the end of the Games, I heard the original intro to JW's Olympic Fanfare & Theme (i.e., not Bugler's Dream) on the NBC broadcast. I had never -- not in this Olympics or any other in my lifetime -- heard NBC use that JW intro. They always used the 1990s version with the Arnaud Bugler's Dream intro. I think most of you will know what I'm referring to, but just in case, the first few seconds of the following video is the original intro I'm referring to, which was used tonight on NBC: SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 If you've been collecting Williams olympic music for years, the only pieces not available in good quality to date are the original Olympic Fanfare and Theme Bumpers. And one Summon the Heroes alternate (with new extended ending)I'd like to have in better quality. And there's also a super cool Williams arranged version of Burgler's Dream only heard in the Athens promo video On 7/28/2021 at 6:40 PM, JohnnyD said: And yet, much of this music remains unreleased. not that much Might as well post this one in case people missed it thx99, Andy and Will 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 46 minutes ago, King Mark said: If you've been collecting Williams olympic music for years, the only pieces not available in good quality to date are the original Olympic Fanfare and Theme Bumpers. And one Summon the Heroes alternate (with new extended ending)I'd like to have in better quality. And there's also a super cool Williams arranged version of Burgler's Dream only heard in the Athens promo video Are you referring here to "Olympic Soccer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 yeah soccer , I think the version that was shared was from a TIVO recording and ok but not great quality .I love that kick ass new ending.You posted a little clip of it earlier "Basketball" has higher quality files on YouTube also Prime Time Tease with a cool variation of the secondary march the end thx99, Will and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I'm loving this discussion and learning a lot, but what are "Basketball" and "Olympic Soccer"? My YouTube searches are coming up empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Back in 2012, Spectrum had 2 channels for the summer Olympics that only showed basketball and soccer. In between broadcasts each channel played a different version of Summon The Heroes on a continuous loop. The one on the basketball channel is the one referenced in the video km provided. The soccer cue appeared to be cobbled together from various takes of the theme to include a much grander, triumphant finish to Summon The Heroes. 18 minutes ago, igger6 said: I'm loving this discussion and learning a lot, but what are "Basketball" and "Olympic Soccer"? My YouTube searches are coming up empty. You won’t find them labeled that way. That was the generic names I gave the 2 cues when I discovered them. Will and thx99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thx99 1,740 Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 Thanks for discovering those back in the day, @Ollie!! FYI, other versions of "Summon the Heroes" can be found on the following "radio edit" CD that I picked up several years ago: However, to the best of my knowledge, these versions are merely edited down from the original longer recording of the piece. And there are these three versions found on http://www.televisiontunes.com (the names given are taken directly from the site and are not mine), which seem to have some unique endings/edits: "NBC Olympics - 2008 - Main Theme - Theme Song" (4:00)http://www.televisiontunes.com/NBC_Olympics_-_2008_-_Main_Theme.html http://www.televisiontunes.com/uploads/audio/NBC Olympics - 2008 - Main Theme.mp3 "NBC Olympics - 2008 - Olympic Bumper - Theme Song" (0:32)http://www.televisiontunes.com/NBC_Olympics_-_2008_-_Olympic_Bumper.html http://www.televisiontunes.com/uploads/audio/NBC Olympics - 2008 - Olympic Bumper.mp3 "NBC Olympics - 2008 - Olympic Summon - Theme Song" (0:57)http://www.televisiontunes.com/NBC_Olympics_-_2008_-_Olympic_Summon.html http://www.televisiontunes.com/uploads/audio/NBC Olympics - 2008 - Olympic Summon.mp3 And of course there's the "short version" (3:39) that appeared on "The Sound of Glory" (the European version of "Summon the Heroes" CD): 15 hours ago, King Mark said: If you've been collecting Williams olympic music for years, the only pieces not available in good quality to date are the original Olympic Fanfare and Theme Bumpers. Yes!! 15 hours ago, King Mark said: And one Summon the Heroes alternate (with new extended ending)I'd like to have in better quality. Remind me which one that is again, @King Mark!! 15 hours ago, King Mark said: And there's also a super cool Williams arranged version of Burgler's Dream only heard in the Athens promo video Yes, the "bells" version, as we've referred to it at times, heard in the first 40 seconds of my YouTube upload (along with OF&T, "The Hanging" from Goldsmith's Bad Girls, "Finale" from Edelman's Dragonheart, "Contemporary Tease", and "Summon the Heroes"): And coincidentally, the "The President's Own" US Marine Band just posted their performance of "Summon the Heroes" from June 27, 2021 to their YouTube page: Will, Miguel Andrade, Amer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, thx99 said: Yes, the "bells" version, as we've referred to it at times, heard in the first 40 seconds of my YouTube upload (along with OF&T, "The Hanging" from Goldsmith's Bad Girls, "Finale" from Edelman's Dragonheart, "Contemporary Tease", and "Summon the Heroes"): Alas, the copyright overlords appear to have taken down this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thx99 1,740 Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Will said: Alas, the copyright overlords appear to have taken down this video. Works for me but then again, I was the uploader! Try this... D_nev, SteveMc and Will 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 0:00 to 0:40! Never heard that before! Wow! Will and thx99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: All of the music in that promo SHOULD be and NEEDS to be released. 0:00 to 0:40! Wow! Never heard this before! Wow! 0:40 to 1:14 is of course Olympic Fanfare and Theme! Already released. 1:14 to 3:12! Wow! Never heard this before either! Wow! 3:13 to 4:44 is of course Olympic Theme (Contemporary Tease)! Wow! 4:45 to 5:15 is of course Summon the Heroes! Already released. 5:16 to end is the final part of Olympic Fanfare and Theme! Already released. Below are the comments I had included for my YouTube upload, which gives the names of the musical selections. The only selections which haven’t been released commercially are the “bells” arrangement of “Bugler’s Dream” (presumably by Williams) and “Contemporary Tease”. The two middle selections are not by Williams and are available on the respective commercial releases of the scores. Will and Miguel Andrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I figured the ones I did not name were not by the Maestro, except of course 0:00 to 0:40. Still, everything blended pretty well together. Though, the Maestro's music blended especially well together; that segue from his arrangement of "Bugler's Dream" to Olympic Theme for example! thx99 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Absolutely agree, @JohnnyD!! I’ve loved this promo video and its use of music ever since I first saw it. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 206 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I've set up playlist with the help of the one featured by Bespin. Is there anything missing from Williams' fanfare repertoire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 @thx99 @King Mark Have you ever heard this bumper before? I'm pretty familiar with JW's Olympic bumpers but this one sounds different (though it does sound like him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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