Guest Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 IMHO, this is the one Williams score that is in the most desperate need of an expanded release. The only problem is how the music would be presented, particularly the Temple sacrifice music and the source cues. "The Temple Of Doom" cue on the OST CD gave us a glimpse, but not much else. The music runs much longer in the movie and contains several unreleased sections. The source cues would be interesting, and I would assume they would be presented a la "Luthor's Luau" on the Superman expanded set. It's tough to tell since the source music was sometimes interrupted from underscore at the feast.To hear the music itself completely could be a very interesting listening experience. Temple, IMO, is one of the few Spielberg films JW scored in which SOME of the music does sound tracked and chopped. A lot of the cues were melded together, even cues on the OST were edited down or longer in the movie, and of course, the already mentioned Temple and source music. The cue that would probably sound the most different would most likely be the End Credits, which I think were resequenced more than we think around to fit the scenes of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 Most John Williams fan agree this is "THE" score that needs to be expanded the most. I for one would welcome an expanded score, a complete score, or any new version with more music. The music is amazing as is this vastly underrated film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 TOD might be under rated, but not nearly as under rated as The Last Crusade.Stefancos- who feels very strongly about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 You meant overrated, I am sure. joe, taking the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 TOD might be under rated, but not nearly as under rated as The Last Crusade.Oh yes! TOD is fun but stupid (horribly stupid in the first 30 or so minutes). Crusade is clearly my favourite of the soon to be trilogy of four.Marian - also feeling strongly about this, and even more about the fact that there are no DVDs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCallister 0 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 I think Crusade is a very strong score and a five star album, but falls short of Raiders and Temple. I think it's incredible from the beginning up until and including Scherzo For Motorcycle. After that, a handful of the cues are good, but some of the cues ARE well, not so much boring, but not invigorating by any means. Like on the 2-CD boot, I find myself skipping from Scherzo For Motorcycle...to No Ticket...to the Belly of The Steel Beast...to Indy's Return...to the End Credits. I don't necessary listen to those exact cues, but I think some cues like The Berlin Air Terminal or Reunited With Sallah are good, but not the type of mystifying, pounding, or action cues that the other rest of the score (or the other films) have. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 Most John Williams fan agree this is "THE" score that needs to be expanded the most.Yes, it got this dubious honor the day the 2 disc Superman - The Movie was released.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCallister 0 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 I agree Indy. But the pressing question is, how will the music (that I mentioned in the topic post) be presented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 As usual Neil and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 I agree Indy. But the pressing question is, how will the music (that I mentioned in the topic post) be presented?Just simply,in chronological order like the other expanded Williams score.The actual c.d. is very incomplete,but Kevin,I can assure you there is no choppy editing , music tracking or a single loop in the score as presented in the movie.K.M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 I think Crusade is a very strong score and a five star album, but falls short of Raiders and Temple. I think it's incredible from the beginning up until and including Scherzo For Motorcycle. After that, a handful of the cues are good, but some of the cues ARE well, not so much boring, but not invigorating by any means. Like on the 2-CD boot, I find myself skipping from Scherzo For Motorcycle...to No Ticket...to the Belly of The Steel Beast...to Indy's Return...to the End Credits. I don't necessary listen to those exact cues, but I think some cues like The Berlin Air Terminal or Reunited With Sallah are good, but not the type of mystifying, pounding, or action cues that the other rest of the score (or the other films) have. Just my two cents.LIER!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 The score shold be presented in chronological order as Williams wrote it. The source music, if it can be included, should be put on the end of the CD's, in a manner similar to the Star Wars, Return of the Jedi and Superman - The Movie discs. This way it will not interrupt the flow of Williams' music.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 Neil's got it. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 It should begin just as the movie with the awesome Cole Porter song, Anything Goes, and proceed note for note, but if we don't get that a presentation much like the expanded Raiders would be better than nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 At this point Joe, the release really needs to be everything. We've been spoiled by complete score releases that anything less for an Indiana Jones score would be a crime.Releases like the even more expanded E.T. and the so called "Ultimate Edition" of The Phantom Menace just make collecting film scores that much more frustrating. I'm willing to wait awhile for Temple of Doom to be released properly on CD. With Indy IV apparently really happening, I'm sure we'll have this in our grubby little paws around that time, if not sooner.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 then I expect a crime, Neil, cause I don't expect every note.In other words I will hope for the best and prepare for the worst.As long as I have Slave Children and the TOD end credits, then I am atleast partially there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 I have high expectations. I really think a complete release can happen. I take that back. A complete release must happen!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Hmmm, we don't even have a good bootleg of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 This film is by far the worst in the series, but the music is absolutely terrific and it really needs an expanded release - the normal OST only contains 40 of totally 110 minutes of music heard in the film!The best would, of course, be an expanded 2-CD set with all of the music from the movie, but a 70-minute release would not be a bad idea either - we would at least get half an hour of missed music! 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Worst??? Hmmm, well from my big excutive comfortable computer chair, they are all great and all close to each other in goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 This film is by far the worst in the series, but the music is absolutely terrific and it really needs an expanded release - the normal OST only contains 40 of totally 110 minutes of music heard in the film!The best would, of course, be an expanded 2-CD set with all of the music from the movie, but a 70-minute release would not be a bad idea either - we would at least get half an hour of missed music! 8OUHmm, you have that wrong I am afraid, Least Crusade is the least of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 There's no such thing as least when it comes to indy 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 According to someone at the FSM board,at least as of five or six years ago, the masters for "Temple of Doom" were missing.This is the first I've heard of this really, I just thought it just didn't get released up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I'm sure it's just a silly rumor.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 A three year old thread. This is almost one of the original threads on the new board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I hope it's just a silly rumor. We haven't gotten an official complete release of Last Crusade either, hopefully more due to the reuse fee issues of LA vs. the LSO (Raiders) than "misplaced" master tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krosstj 0 Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Sorry LC beast the TOD score, IMO....AND JOE YOUR WRONG! LC is a better flick then the Children Killing TOD;)Krosstj- always an opinion, all the time, everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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