Jay 37,355 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I assume he's referring to the intended chronological order of all the OST bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Definitely not, because the film was obviously massively re-edited after scoringJim seems to be implying that the EE could shift some scenes back to the original positions when scored.But of course, he's being vague as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't actually have a complete list of FOTR slates but may be able to fill in a few gaps in some areas if there is any interest (7Q is the first part of The Mirror of Galadriel, fact fans). The 'cue' numbering was introduced purely to break down the score for recording purposes and make the sheer quantity of music manageable; compositionally the score consists of lengthy overarching pieces.The concept of breaking these pieces into 'cues' disappeared almost entirely for ROTK. To give an example, 511 The Palantir covers everything from the Legolas/Aragorn night-time Edoras scene through to Gandalf leaving with Pippin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 On 9/23/2010 at 6:32 AM, Jim Ware said: On 9/10/2010 at 5:17 PM, Jim Ware said: On 9/10/2010 at 2:52 AM, lordskylark said: I am curious, has anyone attempted to make some sort of complete list of all known cues from all three LOTR movies that are not present in the Complete Recordings (regardless if they are alternates, properly edited, etc)? (including the theatrical edition, extended edition, from video games, original soundtracks, dvd menus & documentaries, etc?) I might attempt this after listening to the 'rarities'. I'll be making a start on this shortly! @Jim Ware did you ever actually begin - or better yet finish - this project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 On 5/20/2011 at 7:49 PM, Fennel Ka said: TTT: Samwise The Brave (9a) FOTR: The Shire [m4] Many Meetings (m55) Cave Troll/Mithril Vest/The Second Hall (m94, m95, m95) Khazad-Dum (m96) The Fighting Uruk-Hai/The River Anduin (m120) BTW @Faleel: Thanks for that! On 5/21/2011 at 3:26 AM, Jim Ware said: The 'm' numbers for FOTR are from the initial spotting of the film ('Breaking the Fellowship' is M140) - these were updated before the sessions to use the reel number/letter format (for example 'Boromir' is 7N, 'A Knife in the Dark' is 4A, 'Concerning Hobbits' is 1G). On 9/26/2015 at 2:12 PM, Jim Ware said: Fellowship and Two Towers were more straightforward. Fellowship compositions were given simple 'm' numbers during spotting which were converted to reel numbers and part letters as post-production progressed (The Great River started life as m135 and became 8G). On 9/29/2015 at 8:28 AM, Jim Ware said: I don't actually have a complete list of FOTR slates but may be able to fill in a few gaps in some areas if there is any interest (7Q is the first part of The Mirror of Galadriel, fact fans). The 'cue' numbering was introduced purely to break down the score for recording purposes and make the sheer quantity of music manageable; compositionally the score consists of lengthy overarching pieces. And @Jim Ware thanks for all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 On 13 August 2016 at 3:43 AM, Jay said: @Jim Ware did you ever actually begin - or better yet finish - this project? Yes. I can fill in some gaps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Let's hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 12 hours ago, Jay said: Let's hear it! When I'm back from Southeast Asia and have wifi that is less temperamental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Jim Ware said: When I'm back from Southeast Asia and have wifi that is less temperamental! To win a war, you gotta become a war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Well, here's the complete cue list for the second half of FOTR Quote THEATRICAL CUES 1 Bilbo's Gifts 2 The Departure of the Fellowship 3 The Ring Goes South 4 Hobbit Duel 5 Crebain Spies 6 To Caradhras 7 A Strange Fate 8 Into the Caverns 9 The Pass of Caradhras 10 The Ring-Bearer 11 The Walls of Moria 12 The Doors of Durin 13 Speak Friend and Enter 14 Into the Mines 15 The Watcher 16 A Journey in the Dark 17 Gollum 18 Fate of Many 19 Dwarrowdelf 20 Balin's Tomb 21 Orc Attack 22 The Cave Troll 23 Mithril! 24 The Second Hall 25 The Bridge of Khazad-Dum 26 The Balrog 27 Gandalf's Demise 28 Elegy for Gandalf 29 Lothlorien 30 The Realm of Galahdrim 31 Caras Galadhon 32 Fallen into Shadow 33 Gandalf's Lament 34 The Glory of Gondor 35 The Mirror of Galadriel 36 The Prophecy 37 The Test 38 The Fighting Uruk-hai 39 Farewell to Lorien 40 The River Anduin 41 Saruman's Army 42 Kings of Old 43 Where's Frodo? 44 Boromir's Betrayal 45 The Breaking of the Fellowship 46 The Battle of Amon Hen 47 Frodo's Escape 48 The Battle Rages 49 Horn of Gondor 50 Boromir's Last Stand 51 Lurtz 52 The Departure of Boromir 53 The Road Goes Ever On 54 May it Be (*) 55 The Cornfield (*) 56 In Dreams (*) 57 Goodbye Rivendell (*) 58 The Fellowship (*) (*) Credits EXPANDED VERSION CUES [Pickups, Inserts, Extensions] 1 Gilraen's Memorial {completely new cue} 2 Bilbo's Gifts {alt. w. extension} 3 The Departure of the Fellowship {expanded version} 4 The Ring Goes South ALT {alt version, no extension) 5 Hobbit Duel {alt. w. extension} 6 Evil Outside & Within {completely new cue} 7 The Walls of Moria {expanded version} 8 The Doors of Durin {alt. w. extension} 9 A Journey in the Dark {ext. insert} 10 Gollum {ext. insert} 11 Lothlorien {alt. take} 12 The Realm of Galahdrim {alt w. extension + new cue} 13 Caras Galadhon {alt. w. extensions} 14 Fallen into Shadow {extended version} 15 Gandalf's Lament (drone overdub) 16 Gandalf's Lament {additional choral music} 17 Elvish Provisions {completely new cue} 18 Celeborn's Warning {completely new cue} 19 The Gift Giving {completely new cue} 20 Farewell to Lorien {extended version} 21 The Night Camp {completely new cue} 22 Kings of Old (overdub) 23 The Battle Rages {alt. w. extension} 24 Horn of Gondor {ext. alt. w. choral dubs} 25 Lurtz {ext. insert} Source: http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/013609-5.html Interesting to note that apparently there could be a shorter version of "The Departure Of The Fellowship" from when the scene was still in the Theatrical Cut, if the list is accurate. The film AND OST jump directly from "Bilbo's Gifts" to "The Ring Goes South", and it sounds perfectly natural to me, so I assume the list is wrong in that one spot, though. Also @Faleel reported that cue 23 on this list is "Mithril Vest", not "Mithril!"... but I've seen plenty of times before when the sheet music title doesn't match the recording log title. Edmilson and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Has there been any new info about this in the last 6 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 15/08/2016 at 9:22 PM, Jay said: Well, here's the complete cue list for the second half of FOTR Source: http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/013609-5.html Interesting to note that apparently there could be a shorter version of "The Departure Of The Fellowship" from when the scene was still in the Theatrical Cut, if the list is accurate. The film AND OST jump directly from "Bilbo's Gifts" to "The Ring Goes South", and it sounds perfectly natural to me, so I assume the list is wrong in that one spot, though. Also @Faleel reported that cue 23 on this list is "Mithril Vest", not "Mithril!"... but I've seen plenty of times before when the sheet music title doesn't match the recording log title. Does anyone know if that list of titles is legit and, if so, does anyone have the first half of the list? enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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