Lord of the Rings scores slate numbers?

[Jay 45,771]

I assume he's referring to the intended chronological order of all the OST bits

[SafeUnderHill 205]

[Jay 45,771]

Definitely not, because the film was obviously massively re-edited after scoring

Jim seems to be implying that the EE could shift some scenes back to the original positions when scored.

But of course, he's being vague as usual

[Jim Ware 638]

I don't actually have a complete list of FOTR slates but may be able to fill in a few gaps in some areas if there is any interest (7Q is the first part of The Mirror of Galadriel, fact fans)​. The 'cue' numbering was introduced purely to break down the score for recording purposes and make the sheer quantity of music manageable; compositionally the score consists of lengthy overarching pieces.

The concept of breaking these pieces into 'cues' disappeared almost entirely for ROTK. To give an example, 511 The Palantir ​​covers everything from the Legolas/Aragorn night-time Edoras scene through to Gandalf leaving with Pippin.

[Jay 45,771]

On 9/23/2010 at 6:32 AM, Jim Ware said:

 

On 9/10/2010 at 5:17 PM, Jim Ware said:

On 9/10/2010 at 2:52 AM, lordskylark said:

I am curious, has anyone attempted to make some sort of complete list of all known cues from all three LOTR movies that are not present in the Complete Recordings (regardless if they are alternates, properly edited, etc)? (including the theatrical edition, extended edition, from video games, original soundtracks, dvd menus & documentaries, etc?)

 

I might attempt this after listening to the 'rarities'.

 

 

I'll be making a start on this shortly!

 

 

@Jim Ware did you ever actually begin - or better yet finish - this project?

[Jay 45,771]

On 5/20/2011 at 7:49 PM, Fennel Ka said:

TTT:

Samwise The Brave (9a)

 

FOTR:

The Shire [m4]

Many Meetings (m55)

Cave Troll/Mithril Vest/The Second Hall (m94, m95, m95)

Khazad-Dum (m96)

The Fighting Uruk-Hai/The River Anduin (m120)

 

BTW @Faleel: Thanks for that!

 

On 5/21/2011 at 3:26 AM, Jim Ware said:

The 'm' numbers for FOTR are from the initial spotting of the film ('Breaking the Fellowship' is M140) - these were updated before the sessions to use the reel number/letter format (for example 'Boromir' is 7N, 'A Knife in the Dark' is 4A, 'Concerning Hobbits' is 1G).

 

On 9/26/2015 at 2:12 PM, Jim Ware said:

Fellowship and Two Towers were more straightforward. Fellowship compositions were given simple 'm' numbers during spotting which were converted to reel numbers and part letters as post-production progressed (The Great River started life as m135 and became 8G).

 

On 9/29/2015 at 8:28 AM, Jim Ware said:

I don't actually have a complete list of FOTR slates but may be able to fill in a few gaps in some areas if there is any interest (7Q is the first part of The Mirror of Galadriel, fact fans). The 'cue' numbering was introduced purely to break down the score for recording purposes and make the sheer quantity of music manageable; compositionally the score consists of lengthy overarching pieces.

 

And @Jim Ware thanks for all that!

[Jim Ware 638]

On 13 August 2016 at 3:43 AM, Jay said:

 

@Jim Ware did you ever actually begin - or better yet finish - this project?

 

Yes.  I can fill in some gaps!

[Jay 45,771]

Let's hear it!

[Jim Ware 638]

12 hours ago, Jay said:

Let's hear it!

 

When I'm back from Southeast Asia and have wifi that is less temperamental!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,148]

4 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

 

When I'm back from Southeast Asia and have wifi that is less temperamental!

 

To win a war, you gotta become a war!

[Jay 45,771]

Well, here's the complete cue list for the second half of FOTR

 

THEATRICAL CUES

1    Bilbo's Gifts
2    The Departure of the Fellowship
3    The Ring Goes South
4    Hobbit Duel
5    Crebain Spies
6    To Caradhras
7    A Strange Fate
8    Into the Caverns
9    The Pass of Caradhras
10    The Ring-Bearer
11    The Walls of Moria
12    The Doors of Durin
13    Speak Friend and Enter
14    Into the Mines
15    The Watcher
16    A Journey in the Dark
17    Gollum
18    Fate of Many
19    Dwarrowdelf
20    Balin's Tomb
21    Orc Attack
22    The Cave Troll
23    Mithril!
24    The Second Hall
25    The Bridge of Khazad-Dum
26    The Balrog
27    Gandalf's Demise
28    Elegy for Gandalf
29    Lothlorien
30    The Realm of Galahdrim
31    Caras Galadhon
32    Fallen into Shadow
33    Gandalf's Lament
34    The Glory of Gondor
35    The Mirror of Galadriel
36    The Prophecy
37    The Test
38    The Fighting Uruk-hai
39    Farewell to Lorien
40    The River Anduin
41    Saruman's Army
42    Kings of Old
43    Where's Frodo?
44    Boromir's Betrayal
45    The Breaking of the Fellowship
46    The Battle of Amon Hen
47    Frodo's Escape
48    The Battle Rages
49    Horn of Gondor
50    Boromir's Last Stand
51    Lurtz
52    The Departure of Boromir
53    The Road Goes Ever On
54    May it Be (*)
55    The Cornfield (*)
56    In Dreams (*)
57    Goodbye Rivendell (*)
58    The Fellowship (*)

(*) Credits

EXPANDED VERSION CUES [Pickups, Inserts, Extensions]

1    Gilraen's Memorial {completely new cue}
2    Bilbo's Gifts {alt. w. extension}
3    The Departure of the Fellowship {expanded version}
4    The Ring Goes South ALT {alt version, no extension)
5    Hobbit Duel {alt. w. extension}
6    Evil Outside & Within {completely new cue}
7    The Walls of Moria {expanded version}
8    The Doors of Durin {alt. w. extension}
9    A Journey in the Dark {ext. insert}
10    Gollum {ext. insert}
11    Lothlorien {alt. take}
12    The Realm of Galahdrim {alt w. extension + new cue}
13    Caras Galadhon {alt. w. extensions}
14    Fallen into Shadow {extended version}
15    Gandalf's Lament (drone overdub)
16    Gandalf's Lament {additional choral music}
17    Elvish Provisions {completely new cue}
18    Celeborn's Warning {completely new cue}
19    The Gift Giving {completely new cue}
20    Farewell to Lorien {extended version}
21    The Night Camp {completely new cue}
22    Kings of Old (overdub)
23    The Battle Rages {alt. w. extension}
24    Horn of Gondor {ext. alt. w. choral dubs}
25    Lurtz {ext. insert}

 

Source: http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/013609-5.html

 

Interesting to note that apparently there could be a shorter version of "The Departure Of The Fellowship" from when the scene was still in the Theatrical Cut, if the list is accurate. The film AND OST jump directly from "Bilbo's Gifts" to "The Ring Goes South", and it sounds perfectly natural to me, so I assume the list is wrong in that one spot, though.

 

Also @Faleel reported that cue 23 on this list is "Mithril Vest", not "Mithril!"... but I've seen plenty of times before when the sheet music title doesn't match the recording log title.

[enderdrag64 1,796]

Has there been any new info about this in the last 6 years?

[Score 775]

On 15/08/2016 at 9:22 PM, Jay said:

Well, here's the complete cue list for the second half of FOTR

 

Source: http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/013609-5.html

 

Interesting to note that apparently there could be a shorter version of "The Departure Of The Fellowship" from when the scene was still in the Theatrical Cut, if the list is accurate. The film AND OST jump directly from "Bilbo's Gifts" to "The Ring Goes South", and it sounds perfectly natural to me, so I assume the list is wrong in that one spot, though.

 

Also @Faleel reported that cue 23 on this list is "Mithril Vest", not "Mithril!"... but I've seen plenty of times before when the sheet music title doesn't match the recording log title.

 

 

Does anyone know if that list of titles is legit and, if so, does anyone have the first half of the list?  

 

[enderdrag64 1,796]

It seems GEMA has been updated with a list of FOTR titles, though the list is neither comprehensive nor fully contains the info we already have. This is certainly a very interesting puzzle...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q-OvClcgHSY5nPcbFNceDjOK1KTyT6XOWg16YFpwjNw/edit?gid=1765184720#gid=1765184720

[Jay 45,771]

Have you guys seen the cue list shared by Ain't It Cool News that's been online since a week after the film opened?

 

http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/11098

[Jay 45,771]

That one takes any section of a cue with lyrics and breaks them out into their own mini-cues (presumably since people other than Shore are credited as a composer for those sections), and also follows the film's final usage so if for example one recording was used in the film but with a section in the middle silenced, each half of the cue would be in there with its own unique name.

[enderdrag64 1,796]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

That one takes any section of a cue with lyrics and breaks them out into their own mini-cues (presumably since people other than Shore are credited as a composer for those sections), and also follows the film's final usage so if for example one recording was used in the film but with a section in the middle silenced, each half of the cue would be in there with its own unique name.

It seems to come from the same source as the GEMA titles as there's a lot of overlap between them

[Jay 45,771]

Yes both should be from the official cue list

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

18 minutes ago, Jay said:

That one takes any section of a cue with lyrics and breaks them out into their own mini-cues (presumably since people other than Shore are credited as a composer for those sections), and also follows the film's final usage so if for example one recording was used in the film but with a section in the middle silenced, each half of the cue would be in there with its own unique name.

It also seems to break down the prologue into its sections as taken from the other cues like Parth Galen etc.

[Jay 45,771]

Nah, isn't that also separated when the Nazgul lyrics play?

[Edmilson 12,182]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

Have you guys seen the cue list shared by Ain't It Cool News that's been online since a week after the film opened?

 

http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/11098

Wow, this is fascinating! That's a very comprehensive list, if not fully complete. 

 

The only thing missing is a spreadsheet comparing these cue names with the OST and the CRs 

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

17 minutes ago, Jay said:

Nah, isn't that also separated when the Nazgul lyrics play?

So:

 

The World is Changed = Lothlorien theme

 

Much that Once Was = Parth Galen quotes?

 

Freedom of Middle Earth = Nazgul theme?

 

Victory Was Near = Mordor End Cap? (DUN DUN! DUN DUN!)

 

The Power of the Ring = Nazgul theme

 

All Hope had Faded = Parth Galen quotes + other material

 

My Precious = the building choir for Gollum finding the ring and then in the cave

 

A Long Life = Pity of Gollum + Nameless Fear

 

 

?

 

[Jay 45,771]

I can't check now but I'm sure it's something like that.  You can see the ** next to every-other passage, and at the bottom of the page it says

 

** - words by Phillipa Boyens (sometimes from the original Tolkien)

 

So that'd be the Nazgul vocals and Lothlorien vocals

[enderdrag64 1,796]

12 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Wow, this is fascinating! That's a very comprehensive list, if not fully complete. 

 

The only thing missing is a spreadsheet comparing these cue names with the OST and the CRs 

I've been working on a LOTR spreadsheet to do just that, I'm only 1/3 done with the TE of FOTR at the moment though

[Edmilson 12,182]

3 minutes ago, enderdrag64 said:

I've been working on a LOTR spreadsheet to do just that, I'm only 1/3 done with the TE of FOTR at the moment though

That's okay, take as much time as you need. 

 

For the other two movies, do you have their cue names as well? Maybe AICN published them around the time they were released, like with FOTR?

[enderdrag64 1,796]

9 hours ago, Jay said:

Yes both should be from the official cue list

Curiously it doesn't line up much at all with the list you sent previously from moviemusic.com...

 

There seem to be several titles exclusive to GEMA and several more exclusive to the moviemusic list. I was able to find almost every Ain't It Cool title in GEMA though, as well as align the AICN/GEMA titles with the cue info previously revealed by Doug Adams and Jim Ware:

 

The GEMA numbers are very confusing because the publisher work codes aren't entirely in order and sometimes switch between starting letters (U/V/W), I'm not entirely sure how to make sense of that without the AICN list

It's also worth noting that most of the moviemusic titles are not in GEMA

 

Here's the WIP spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CIDW42Q6tJ5HTqRHyVECOTJChfdKnr_Mg7AhW_2mI-0/edit?gid=1936439077#gid=1936439077

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

Note Doug's Book has Fly You Fools as Dimrill Dale.

 

EDIT: err. okay maybe not..

[Edmilson 12,182]

How many cue names and numbers do we know for Shore's 6 Middle Earth scores? Can anyone please point me to a post (or posts) containing the cues that we know for the movies? Thanks.

[Chen G. 6,009]

I'm sure Jay or someone will be up with a list very promptly, but it pays to mention that the term "cue" is ill-suited to Howard's music. He concieves of his music in longer "pieces" (The Wagnerian in me cannot resist "Musical-poetic periods"). This is not just an idle fact: it's part-and-parcel with his thematic language: listen to the Unexpected Party and see how it's one piece, whose structure is "scanned" by a refrain. "The Shire" has a fully-realized tonal-thematic framework: Matthew Bribitzer-Stull says it's a "loose rondo."

[Yodaschild 1,582]

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[Chen G. 6,009]

35 minutes ago, LiterallyIconic said:

It's more ternary, since we're being pedantic

 

Oh, I was confusing it with "Bag End."

 

I barely got any sleep...

[Yodaschild 1,582]

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[Chen G. 6,009]

5 minutes ago, LiterallyIconic said:

BTW, Doug Adams' writing is really... something.

 

Doug's writing is clarity itself compared to the overwhelming majority of Leitfaden-type writing.

[Yodaschild 1,582]

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[Jurassic Shark 16,346]

8 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

Leitfaden-type writing.

 

What's that?

[Chen G. 6,009]

46 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

What's that?

 

That's what those Leitmotif analyses are called. It means "Guiding thread" - the idea harkens back to Ariadne's red rope, guiding Theseus through the Labyrinth, just as the leitmotif guides the listen through a musical work.

 

Most of these - the Wolzogens and the Lavignacs - are just plain silly. Doug brings far greater legitimacy to this kind of enterprise.

[Edmilson 12,182]

It's kinda funny that FOTR/TTT cue numbers used for recording sound like Gunn's Lex Luthor's commands for attacking Superman: 1G, 4A...  

 

What was the problem with 1M7 Concerning Hobbits, 4M1 A Knife in the Dark, 7M14 Boromir, 7M17 The Mirror of Galadriel, 8M7 The Great River...? There aren't many Shore cue lists online, but all the non-Middle Earth ones I could find use the 1M1, 1M2, etc., system that everyone does. Jackson's King Kong, which had an extremely rushed score, also used the 1M1 system, which JNH had employed from the start.

 

With ROTK and the Hobbits, it all got even weirder...

 

Seems that, at least with FOTR, we have most, if not all, the cue names, although not every cue number. What about TTT, ROTK and the three Hobbit movies? How much do we know of them, aside from those posted on this thread?

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

15 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

It's kinda funny that FOTR/TTT cue numbers used for recording sound like Gunn's Lex Luthor's commands for attacking Superman: 1G, 4A...  

 

What was the problem with 1M7 Concerning Hobbits, 4M1 A Knife in the Dark, 7M14 Boromir, 7M17 The Mirror of Galadriel, 8M7 The Great River...?

Because LOTR is special, and Shore wrote the music in lengthy sections, with the rests written into the music, and then they were broken up for recording. For instance, IIRC the entire Passing of the Grey Company was written one 30 minute-ish "sequence".

 

Don't forget that a lot of scores were sheeted out in R#P# format too.

 

The Moria sequence uses M## format.

[Cameron007 116]

Does that FotR cue list imply that those cues were all recorded separately? Especially the Battle of Amon Hen cues. I figured "Horn of Gondor" is its own cue, but the one(s) before it?

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

2 hours ago, Cameron007 said:

Does that FotR cue list imply that those cues were all recorded separately? Especially the Battle of Amon Hen cues. I figured "Horn of Gondor" is its own cue, but the one(s) before it?

Some of it is probably "there is silence here, so the cue ends here" logic, even if that's not exactly true.

[Cameron007 116]

18 minutes ago, The Score Cleaner said:

Some of it is probably "there is silence here, so the cue ends here" logic, even if that's not exactly true.

 

Interesting, because everything from Aragorn telling Frodo to run, to Boromir first blowing the horn, seems like one continuous cue.

 

I guess Shore's way is really unique.

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

1 minute ago, Cameron007 said:

 

Interesting, because everything from Aragorn telling Frodo to run, to Boromir first blowing the horn, seems like one continuous cue.

 

I guess Shore's way is really unique.

I was referring to the people making the cue list thinking "every time a silence, a cue ends, every vocal is a seperate cue"

[BloodBoal 8,485]

10 hours ago, Edmilson said:

With ROTK and the Hobbits, it all got even weirder...

 

The Hobbit slate numbers are not particularly weird:

 

For An Unexpected Journey, you have lr (for 'Little Rivers' , the film's working title) followed by the cue number, so for example lr01, lr02, etc. 

 

For The Desolation Of Smaug, you have mr (for 'Middle Rivers') followed by the cue number, continuing the numbering from An Unexpected Journey, so the first cue is mr132, and so on, up to mr272. 

 

For The Battle Of The Five Armies, you have br ('Big Rivers') followed by the cue number, continuing the numbering from DOS, so the first cue would be br273 and so on.

 

See this post. 

[VenomVeVenom 229]

On 03/02/2026 at 7:08 PM, Edmilson said:

It's kinda funny that FOTR/TTT cue numbers used for recording sound like Gunn's Lex Luthor's commands for attacking Superman: 1G, 4A...  

From my score reduction:

 

 

Never understood that 19c. 

[BloodBoal 8,485]

Well, it probably means it is the third part of this composition, with the first part being 19a and the second part being 19b.

[Edmilson 12,182]

All right, here's every LOTR/Hobbit cue name and number we know so far. If there's more, let me know and I'll add to this post.

 

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy

 

Fellowship of the Ring

 

• 1A The History of the Ring (theme)
• 1G Concerning Hobbits
• 4A A Knife in the Dark
• 19C Dwarrowdelf
• 7N Boromir
• 7Q The Mirror of Galadriel
• 8G The Great River

Deciphering key: The number represents the reel and the letter represents the part. Eg.: 4A means the first cue from reel 4 (A is the first letter in the alphabet), 8G means the seventh cue from reel 8 (G is the seventh letter in the alphabet), though some cues might be divided in parts 1, 2, etc.

 

The cue Dwarrowdelf was recorded earlier, in April, for a Cannes presentation of the movie, so this might be a reason for the cue number being a little "off" from the others.

 

Note: Most, if not all, the cue names from Fellowship are known thanks to an old AITC report, GEMA database, and others, but not all the slate numbers.

 

Additionally, for some cues we know the number used during the writing process and the early recordings with the NZSO in April, 2001, for the Cannes Festival in the following month. Some of these cues were re-recorded later with the LPO in new versions, during which they gained new slates that conformed with the 1A pattern above (The Breaking of the Fellowship being the greatest example).

• m4 The Shire
• m55 Many Meetings
• m88 Gollum
• m91 Balin's Tomb
  m92 Orc Attack
• m94 Cave Troll
• m95 Mithril Vest/The Second Hall
• m96 Khazad-Dum
• m98 Balrog
• m120 The Fighting Uruk-Hai/The River Anduin
• m135 The Great River
• m140 The Breaking of the Fellowship

 

See @enderdrag64's spreadsheet here for all the known information on cue names and numbers from FOTR.

 

The Two Towers

 

• 1D The Taming of Smeagol
• ttt dvd 3 v2 307c cf313 1D 2G The Taming of Smeagol
• ttt dvd 3 Slinker
• ttt dvd 18 Fangorn Forest
• ttt dvd 29 Gondor
• 4B The King of the Golden Hall
• 5W Breath of Life
• 6D Pt. 1 Stinker
• 7F Helm's Deep
• 8D The March of the Ents
• 9A Samwise the Brave
• ttt dvd 40 v2 315c cf315 9A Samwise the Brave
• 9AE Gollum's Song

Deciphering key: Same as Fellowship. Numbers represent the reel and letters represent the part. Cues with "dvd" in the name indicate that they were written for the Extended Edition of the film, and include dates for their composition (for example, the EE "Samwise the Brave" was probably written in March 15, 2003).

 

Return of the King

 

• rotk 519 816 - Journey to the Cross-roads

• rotk 511 - The Palantir

• rotk 602 d811h cf813 D b203-261 - Minas Tirith

• rotk 912 917 - The Black Gate Opens

• rotk 414 415b - The Stairs of Cirith Ungol

• rotk 624 - The Passing of the Grey Company

• b137-282 rotk 629 c902b cf902 - The Passing of the Grey Company 

• rotk 506 1026 - Shelob's Lair

• rotk 615 907 - The Siege of Gondor (actually Allegiance to Denethor and The Sacrifice of Faramir).

• rotk dvd74 c308b cf218 - The Battle of Pelennor

• rotk dvd79 - Houses of Healing

• rotk 926 a928 - The End of All Things

• rotk 926 1001 a1002 - The End of All Things (a new version?)

• rotk 805 1103 - The Grey Havens

• rotk 707 - Use Well the Days

 

Cues with unknown names:

 

• rotk 519 (619?)
• rotk 506 1 731
• rotk 506 2 802(?)
• rotk 3F3 804 (506)
• rotk 629

 

Deciphering key: Instead of the usual reel/part number, ROTK doesn't number its cues by their placement in the movie, but rather by the date they were written and orchestrated. For example, "The Black Gate Opens" was written in September 12, 2003, and orchestrated on September 17, 2003.

 

Some slates offer additional details: the "dvd74" in "The Battle of Pelennor" indicates that it was written for the Extended Edition of the movie.

 

The Hobbit Trilogy

 

Note: For The Hobbit, the names after the numbers are not official, as Shore, when writing the scores for the trilogy, didn't gave them names, with a few exceptions such as theme suites and some inserts.

 

Here, the titles were given by fans to facilitate the analysis and actually point to the album track that this cue corresponds to, in total or partially, or at least to a description of the scene in the movie. One exception are the cues "Barrels Out of Bond" from DOS and "The Destruction of Laketown" from BOTFA, which Shore added (along with a few other details) to his original score so that a picture of it could appear in the album release.

 

An Unexpected Journey

 

• lr1 - My Dear Frodo
• lr26 - Old Friends
• lr50
• lr56B - Radagast the Brown (opening)
• lr56C
• lr81
• lr88 - Warg Scouts
• lr90
• lr111B - The Edge Of The Wild - This cue, recorded on September 1st , 2012, scored the original cut of the High Fells scene back when such scene was supposed to be in An Unexpected Journey. A version of reel 6 from AUJ, dated August 30th, 2012, still had it in the first movie of the trilogy. However, the scene eventually ended up in The Desolation of Smaug with a different cut and a new cue to accompany it (The High Fells on the album).
• lr111G
• lr122
• lr125A
• lr131 - Brass Buttons (finale)
• lr133 - beginning of Out of the Frying Pan
• lr135 - A Good Omen
• lr Bilbo (concert suite)

Deciphering key: LR stands for "Little Rivers", a codename for the first movie in the trilogy. Cues are not split in reels because of messy editing process, so their numbering corresponds to the # of the scene where the cue started playing. Some cues might be divided into parts represented by letters, so, for example, cue LR56c is the third part (C is the third letter in the alphabet) of the cue from An Unexpected Journey that begins at scene #56.

 

The Desolation of Smaug

 

• mr132A - The Quest of Erebor
• mr132B - The Quest of Erebor (2nd part?)
• mr143A
• mr153C
• mr162 612 818 (composed June 12, 2013; orchestrated August 8th, 2013)
• mr168A - "Thranduil scene"
• mr172 718 816 - Barrels Out of Bond, begins with "Feast Of Starlight" and goes until the end of "The Forest River" (composed July 18, 2013; orchestrated August 16th, 2013; a new version of the cue may have been written on September 8th, 2013 according to booklet pic)
• mr172B PT2 - Barrels Out of Bond (second part, the cue was probably split for recording)
• mr190 729 817 (composed July 29th, 2013; orchestrated August 17th, 2013)
• mr190d - beginning of "Protector of the Common Folk"
• mr190e - rest of "Protector of the Common Folk"
• mr205 716 821 - Thrice Welcome (composed July 16th, 2013; orchestrated August 21st, 2013)
• mre206 - Written for the Expanded Edition of the movie. It scores an extended cut of the discussion between the Master and Alfrid, and the "World of Men" scene.
• mr221 723 818 (composed July 23th, 2013; orchestrated August 18th, 2013)
• mr222
• mr251 725 821 (composed July 25th, 2013; orchestrated August 21st, 2013)
• mr251D
• mr253
• mr255
• mr272A+B My Armor Is Iron
• mr272B 1003 1005 insert 165-171 - My Armor is Iron, Part 2 - insert replacing bars 165 to 171 of the original mr272B (composed October 3rd, 2013; orchestrated October 5th, 2013)

Deciphering key: MR stands for "Middle Rivers", a codename for the second movie in the trilogy. Cues are not split in reels because of messy editing process, so their numbering corresponds to the # of the scene where the cue started playing, counting from wherever AUJ's stopped. Some cues might be divided in parts represented by letters.

 

The Battle of the Five Armies

 

• br? The Destruction of Laketown (composed April 9th, 2014)

Deciphering key: BR stands for "Big Rivers", a codename for the third movie in the trilogy. Cues are not split in reels because of messy editing process, so their numbering corresponds to the # of the scene where the cue started playing, counting from wherever DOS's stopped. Some cues might be divided in parts represented by letters.

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

Numbers in Hobbit refer to the scene numbers, in the appendices Scene 88 is the Warg Scouts/Radagast chase.

[Jay 45,771]

Yup.  From this very thread:

 

 

On 17/09/2015 at 7:35 PM, Jay said:

Cues are numbered based off the scene # of the start of the cue. So the very first cue in AUJ in LR01. DOS starts at MR136, etc. Remember that "Scene 88" featurette from AUJ, for the warg chase? Well, that's cue LR88 When cues get broken up for recording, each piece gets a letter after it, so there's for example an MR190a, MR190b, MR190c, MR190d, and MR190e.

 

[BloodBoal 8,485]

If I remember correctly, the The Hobbit compositions only have slate numbers, and no titles as such. I believe it was confirmed by Jim Ware, but it is also confirmed by the sheet music we can see in some of the production diaries (these feature quite a bit of slate numbers, by the way). For example, at 00:57 in this video, you can clearly see that lr1 has no title.

 

The titles that are used in posts featuring the compositions' slate numbers refer exclusively to the original albums' track titles, simply as a way to explain easily what music the cue corresponds to. Including those titles in your list may be a bit misleading because people may think the cue corresponds exactly to the track with the same title, even though it might not (for example, lr26 Old Friends may make it feel like lr26 corresponds to the album track Old Friends, even though that one may contain more than just one cue).

 

Each of the booklets of the original album releases feature a page of sheet music with a pencil-written title, but I believe this was added as a way to "illustrate" what scene the specific page underscores.

 

Anyway, to help you with your list:

 

This promotional video features quite a few slate numbers:

 

 

lr1 at 00:57

lr125c at 01:41

lr50 at 02:03

lr56c at 02:42

lr Bilbo at 02:44 (maybe referring to one of the concert suites?)

lr90 at 02:49

lr56c at 02:51

lr122 at 04:22

lr111g at 04:37

lr125a at 05:00

lr133 at 07:07

lr26, lr56, lr81 and lr111a at 07:12

 

In this post, Jim Ware mentions lr131 (which corresponds to the tail end of Brass Buttons, no timestamps specified) and lr133 (apparently corresponding to the opening section of Out Of The Frying-Pan, along with some unreleased material prior to that).

 

On 19/10/2018 at 11:55 AM, Jim Ware said:

Are you referring to the scene in the forest after Bilbo escapes from Gollum?  This was all scored - the tail end of Brass Buttons (lr131) was written to cover the first part up to Bilbo's reveal but is replaced with tracked material in the film.  The first 46 bars of Out of the Frying Pan (lr133, removed from the album) were written for the rest of the scene, but partially covered with tracked material from an unused composition elsewhere in the score.  The film returns to lr133 with the statement of the ring theme before cutting to a revised insert for the Shire/Misty Mountains material.

 

This picture from the An Unexpected Journey album booklet presents lr56b, which, based on what is shown on screen, seems to correspond to the opening section of Radagast The Brown (along with the preceding unused "rain" music heard in one of the production diaries):

 

 

This picture from the The Desolation Of Smaug booklet presents mr172, which according to this post by Jim Ware, covers everything from Feast Of Starlight all the way up to the end of The Forest River:

 

 

On 20/03/2016 at 8:38 PM, Jim Ware said:

The timing in the top left (3:11:54:14) indicates where the composition (mr172) starts.  This composition begins with Feast of Starlight and runs through to the end of The Forest River.

 

Shore is probably referring to the Woodland Realm sequence as a whole when he refers to it as the first piece written for Smaug.  A significant portion of it (not including the forest river chase) was scored for the two film cut back in 2012 and it was the first sequence revisited for Smaug.

 

This post by FunnyML features a few more slate numbers, referring to this video:

 

 

On 07/01/2014 at 4:07 AM, FunnyML said:

Video Blog 14 is full of those, a small list:

mr132A

mr132B

mr143A

mr153C

mr162

mr168A (thranduil scene)

mr172 (Feast of Starlight)

mr172B PT2

mr222

mr251

mr251D

mr253

mr255

mr272A+B

Okay

 

Faleel posted some slate numbers in this post (note: the numbers after the slate numbers correspond to the dates of composition and orchestration, as per Jim's post here).

 

On 22/04/2014 at 10:20 PM, The Score Cleaner said:

DOS cue list?

Source: Same final fantasy fan.

mr162 612 818

mr172 718 816

mr190 729 817

mr205 716 821

mr221 723 818

mr251 725 821

 

The The Desolation Of Smaug music documentary (on the Extended Edition release) most likely features quite a lot of slate numbers as well. Other production diaries may feature a few more as well.

 

The The Battle Of The Five Armies album booklet features a cue with only br as its slate number, though I suppose they forgot to type the actual number...

 

 

 

Finally, I remember Jim Ware (and possibly Doug as well) shared quite a few slate numbers on his X (ex-Twitter) account throughout the years, though you need an account to be able to browse through his older posts.

[Rachael Foley 10,000]

I wonder if the Out of the Frying Pan album track has a true clean opening, or if they just snipped out the music prior to it. @BloodBoal @Jim Ware