Jay 37,373 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 LOTR blu ray http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/the...gs-trilogy.html http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html#041609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Isolated scores... isolated scores...Apart from hearing the music alone with the picture, there are a couple of film mixes I wouldn't mind having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 By the way The Digital Bits has reported that the Extended Editions of the LOTR movies are expected to be out on Blu-Ray some time around November 2010 according to Peter Jackson, since he announced it at Comic Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I doubt I'll buy them unless there's some significantly cool bonus stuff, as I think the theatricals in November will be enough for me. Star Trek, LOTR, Clone Wars... it's gonna be an expensive fourth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'd only be interested in blu-rays if they had isolated scores. I read they planned to put isos on the EE DVDs but didn't due to space issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The scores have been released on CD and DVD-A. Don't really care about isolated scores at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 What's the point of iso scores for the LOTR movies? You'll get hacked up music, besides I'm sure what pieces you wanted to hear in the movie that didn't make it on the C.R.'s will be in the rarities stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 What's the point of iso scores for the LOTR movies? You'll get hacked up music, besides I'm sure what pieces you wanted to hear in the movie that didn't make it on the C.R.'s will be in the rarities stuff.It'd be nice if they did, but I think more space will be devoted to unused concepts.Plus, what about the actual purpose of isos - watching the movie with just the music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 That's the actual purpose of iso scores???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Yes it is. The average consumer isn't savvy enough to dissect the music from the isolated score track, cut it into individual files, and listen to it on the CD. I'm pretty sure that's technically illegal anyways, covered under the FBI/Interpol warning before the movie about reverse engineering, disassembling, and decompiling the DVD. Blah blah blah.Any of us who post enough are already savvy human beings, so our use for isolated scores is to do exactly that: make our own score albums. But I think the studios actually think people would watch a movie with the score only and the lips moving without vocal sounds, then have ten minutes of silence, then hear some more music when something happens.I think watching any SW or LOTR movie with an isolated score would be an awful experience. Too much editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Irony alert required, I believe.Also, to my knowledge, the only illegal thing about ripping an iso score is cracking the DVD's encryption, if it has any (most do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Irony alert required, I believe.Also, to my knowledge, the only illegal thing about ripping an iso score is cracking the DVD's encryption, if it has any (most do).I'm sure the whole ripping thing is one huge grey area. Makes me wonder why studios choose to do it - they must know it'll turn up online as a boot in no time.Editing or not, I'd still like to have isos. But I think the studios actually think people would watch a movie with the score only and the lips moving without vocal sounds, then have ten minutes of silence, then hear some more music when something happens.I was watching Pleasantville the other day, and they avoided the silence problem on the iso - when there's no commentary or music, they just fade in the regular track.Plus I believe it's 5.1, so if Newman talks over any music, just get rid of the centre channel That would add value to a LotR iso - a commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Also, to my knowledge, the only illegal thing about ripping an iso score is cracking the DVD's encryption, if it has any (most do).I'm sure the whole ripping thing is one huge grey area. Makes me wonder why studios choose to do it - they must know it'll turn up online as a boot in no time.I believe they added the clause about breaking encryptions to the DMCA because that was their only way to make ripping DVDs illegal. Playing a DVD on a PC essentially copies the entire disc (sequentially) to the PC's memory, so that's a form of copying right there.But I certainly got the impression that bootleg considerations were a major reason for the demise of iso scores (there were quite a few in the early days of DVD technology). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Even before the boot problem though, what made a studio think "I know what'll make this DVD sell... let's allow people to watch it with only the music playing!"?I just struggle to understand the Joe Public motivation behind them, particularly when the score isn't anything special (Newman's Erin Brockovich for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Cool article from The Digital Bits about the current and future BD releases of Lord Of The Ringshttp://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/ringsbdmp/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 806 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I finished the Trilogy for the first time a couple days ago (Extended Editions) and loved them to death. They were fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Oh my, where have you been, they've been out for years now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Where is there an alternate of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 On 8/12/2010 at 6:58 PM, BloodBoal said: On 8/12/2010 at 6:50 PM, gkgyver said: Where is there an alternate of that? Right here : Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Extended LOTR coming to Blu finally:http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Picture-Trilogy-Extended/dp/B0026L7H20/ref=lh_ni_t_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Excellent!I wonder if FOTR will have the revised Gollum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Limited Extended Edition was always the title for these sets - there will be nothing limited about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I'll wait for an official release date. It even says on the Amazon page that it's scheduled for release in 2011 or 2012. So people could be holding on to those orders for quite a bit of time.$85 for three movies is also too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pixie_twinkle 48 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 $85 for three movies is also too much.Well, there are also 9 DVDs of special features.Actually only 6 discs of special features. It looks like they'll be splitting the extended versions over two discs again. I'm a bit pissed off about that.From the Amazon description:"To top it all off, the extended editions offer four discs per film: two for the longer movie, plus four commentary tracks and stupendous DTS 6.1 ES sound; and two for the bonus material" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 This has not been announced officially. It doesn't even make sense that there will be DVDs in this set. I can pretty much guarantee that there won't be. The special features might be in SD, but they won't be on DVD I can assure you. Just wait, like we've already been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 $85 for three movies is also too much.Well, there are also 9 DVDs of special features.Actually only 6 discs of special features. It looks like they'll be splitting the extended versions over two discs again.Whaaa? If that's the case I'll be sticking with the dvd release.Plus, they won't be getting rrp from me (again). If it turns out the release is an EXCELLENT one, I'll pick it up about a year after it hits the streets for half the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 and in some few years they will release a version that has both theatrical and extened editions, but not the same bonus material.How does PJ milk the cow in half the time as GL without getting any critizism for that?IMVHO, on blu-ray they should have released both threatrical and extended edition toguether from the very beggining, the problem of disc space is not an issue. Im pretty much happy with the two sided dvds i bought recently with both versions. shame the docs are crap compared to the EE.ANybody knows why this version instead of having the theatrical on one side and the extened on the other has both versions cut in half so you have to flip the discs? it makes no sense :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 yes, im talking about the DVD limited editions: http://www.amazon.com/Rings-Trilogy-Theatrical-Extended-Limited/dp/B000GTLR2AThere i found the answer: seamless branching -> meaning that the scenes that are common to both versions are stored on the disc only once.It makes sense then.But a shame since each side is a DVD9, i was expecting to get rid of the disc swap. Well i think i got better quality...How does PJ milk the cow in half the time as GL without getting any critizism for that?Because PJ offers quality, whereas Lucas offers only quantity. Compare The Lord Of The Rings Extended Editions DVD sets with Star Wars Special Editions. You'll understandI dont understand it because i think GL was critisized of milking with OT releases even before the SEs (the period after 10-15 years from ROTJ).In less than 8 years after ROTK there has been:Theatrical 1 DVD per film plus the trilogy packEE 4 DVDs per film (with deluxe editions each) plus trilogy packLimited edition 2DVDs per film and trilogy packBD theatrical per film and trilogy packBD EE trilogy pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Your point being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Still flogging that dead horse? Peter Jackson is Mother Teresa, compared to GL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 too many versions. Exclusive bonus features each.Bad for the fan for uber dipping, but the fans dont complain.My point being 'its just ironic'.I expected a lengthier response from mr. steef, shame, since the forums are rather doldrumitic lately... no worthy discussions Still flogging that dead horse? Its not really a dead horse, it comes alive with each new LOTR release every few months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 In your world, yes.Bloody George Lucas Defense League is still alive and well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Listen!I bought the theatrical cuts of TTT and ROTK knowing full well that extended editions would later follow, since this was announced before hand.It was my choice, and I did not regret it.Since Blu-Ray is a new format, it stands to reason that these films will be released once more. That's normal. Those who are only interested in the theatrical versions (probably the greater percentage of buyers of this film) were able to buy them a while ago. Those that want the EE's had to wait a bit longer, also nothing wrong with that. As for new Bonus Features. If they had included only the features from the previous releases, fans would cry foul, since they would feel ribbed that PJ did not offer them anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I dont understand it because i think GL was critisized of milking with OT releases even before the SEs (the period after 10-15 years from ROTJ).In less than 8 years after ROTK there has been:Theatrical 1 DVD per film plus the trilogy packEE 4 DVDs per film (with deluxe editions each) plus trilogy packLimited edition 2DVDs per film and trilogy packBD theatrical per film and trilogy packBD EE trilogy packYou said the magic word: theatrical.There are many TLOTR fans or casual movie watchers who prefer the theatrical versions over the Extended Editions. They can buy them in whatever format they like: DVD, BD, and even the VHS versions are still out there for pennies in used shops.But ask GL for theatrical versions of his movies, and he'll give you a song and a dance about why we should only watch the latest and greatest re-edit to align with his pretentious worldview of his saga. Theatrical versions of the films are trapped in either the LaserDisc or VHS of yesteryear, or relegated to a supplemental DVD that is an afterthought at best, a casual middle finger to fans at worst.PJ pwns GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 ten years after and we dont change a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Only because we have to explain to you, that what you know already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I dont understand it because i think GL was critisized of milking with OT releases even before the SEs (the period after 10-15 years from ROTJ).In less than 8 years after ROTK there has been:Theatrical 1 DVD per film plus the trilogy packEE 4 DVDs per film (with deluxe editions each) plus trilogy packLimited edition 2DVDs per film and trilogy packBD theatrical per film and trilogy packBD EE trilogy packYou said the magic word: theatrical.There are many TLOTR fans or casual movie watchers who prefer the theatrical versions over the Extended Editions. They can buy them in whatever format they like: DVD, BD, and even the VHS versions are still out there for pennies in used shops.But ask GL for theatrical versions of his movies, and he'll give you a song and a dance about why we should only watch the latest and greatest re-edit to align with his pretentious worldview of his saga. Theatrical versions of the films are trapped in either the LaserDisc or VHS of yesteryear, or relegated to a supplemental DVD that is an afterthought at best, a casual middle finger to fans at worst.PJ pwns GL.Ownage post is ownage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yeah well good points.But every SW release has also new features, some of them decent doccumentaries. The blue rays even have deleted scenes. Oh wait if its done by lucas its a frigging marketing plot that should have been released ages ago.Just think that PJ has neither released any deleted scene. We only have to wait a few years more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 The way I understand it, there's been a change in personnel at Warner Home Video since PJ oversaw the theatrical and EE releases of the trilogy on DVD.The new people at WB made the first blu ray box set without his input, and I think this EE input is without his input as well. Whenever they can all get on the same page, PJ will be able to release the box set he wants with the special features (ie Deleted Scenes) only he has, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 heh thanks.That's one thing Lucas has tightly knotted.PJ should have foreseen that and try to get his movies' rights.GL has noone to ask for releasing his movies...wich is a blessing and curse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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