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Howard Shore's THE LORD OF THE RINGS


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On 17/04/2021 at 7:13 PM, Jay said:

This is what I have in my old notes for the start of the second half of the film

 

47A Gilraen's Memorial     TCR II-9 "Gilraen's Memorial" (0:00-1:08) 1:08
48 Bilbo's Gifts TCR II-9 "Gilraen's Memorial" (1:08-2:03) + OST 11 (0:18-0:46) 1:22 TCR II-9 "Gilraen's Memorial" (1:08-2:40) 1:32
48A The Departure of the Fellowship     TCR II-9 "Gilraen's Memorial" (2:40-3:46) 1:06
49 The Ring Goes South OST 11 "The Ring Goes South" (0:46-end) 1:13 TCR II-9 "Gilraen's Memorial" (3:46-end) 1:15
50 Hobbit Duel TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (0:00-0:12) 0:14 TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (0:00-0:21) 0:21
51 Crebain Spies TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (0:21-1:20) 0:58    
52 To Caradhras TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (1:20-1:50) 0:30    
53 A Strange Fate TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (1:50-2:23) 0:33    
54 Into the Caverns TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (2:23-3:07) 0:44    
55 The Pass of Caradhras TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (3:07-4:18) 1:11    
56 The Ring-Bearer TCR II-10 "The Pass of Caradhras" (4:18-end) 0:46    
57 The Walls of Moria Unreleased 0:33 TCR II-11 "The Doors of Durin" (0:00-1:35) 1:35
58 The Doors of Durin Unreleased 0:56 TCR II-11 "The Doors of Durin" (1:35-3:09) 1:34
59 Speak Friend and Enter TCR II-11 "The Doors of Durin" (3:09-3:49) 0:40    
60 Into The Mines TCR II-11 "The Doors of Durin" (3:49-4:20) 0:31    
61 The Watcher TCR II-11 "The Doors of Durin" (4:20-end) 1:43    
62 A Journey In The Dark OST 12 "A Journey In The Dark" (0:00-1:17) 1:17 TCR II-12 "Moria" 2:27
63 Gollum TCR II-13 "Gollum (0:00-0:13) + (0:32-1:18) 0:59 TCR II-13 "Gollum" (0:00-1:18) 1:18
64 Fate Of Many TCR II-13 "Gollum" (1:18-end) 1:08    
65 Dwarrowdelf TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (0:00-1:12) 1:12    
66 Balin's Tomb TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (1:12-3:00) 1:48    
67 Orc Attack TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (3:00-4:06) 1:06    
68 The Cave Troll TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (4:06-6:42) 2:36    
69 Mithril! TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (6:42-7:26) 0:44    
70 The Second Hall TCR II-14 "Balin's Tomb" (7:26-end) 1:04    
71 The Bridge of Khazad-Dum TCR III-1 "Khazad-Dum" (0:00-3:33) 3:33    
72 The Balrog TCR III-1 "Khazad-Dum" (3:33-5:20) 1:47    
73 Gandalf's Demise TCR III-1 "Khazad-Dum" (5:20-6:55) 1:35    
74 Elegy For Gandalf TCR III-1 "Khazad-Dum" (6:55-end) 1:05    

Is there anymore to this spreadsheet? (i.e. the rest of film and/or the others in the trilogy?)

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Anyone who can help me out?

Going by info in the Return of the King Annotated Score and A Magpie's Nest, the Grey Havens scene did have lyrics at one point, though it may not have been for the Grey Havens theme itself. Watching the LotR Symphony, it looks to me that the choir is singing words, so could this be it? Magpie speculated that the humming choir might have sung the last lines from Frodo's Song:

Amrûn n'Anor, Annûn n'Ithil - East of the Sun, West of the Moon.

 

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On 27/03/2022 at 11:00 AM, Monoverantus said:

Anyone who can help me out?

Going by info in the Return of the King Annotated Score and A Magpie's Nest, the Grey Havens scene did have lyrics at one point, though it may not have been for the Grey Havens theme itself. Watching the LotR Symphony, it looks to me that the choir is singing words, so could this be it? Magpie speculated that the humming choir might have sung the last lines from Frodo's Song:

Amrûn n'Anor, Annûn n'Ithil - East of the Sun, West of the Moon.

 

 

Good ears. As written phonetically in the score:

 

ahm roon nah nawr 

ahm noon nee theel

 

This synchronises with the cut to the sea after Frodo smiles back at the three hobbits on the shore (Live to Projection bars 32.90-32.101, Lord of the Rings Symphony, movement VI, bars 393-402). I've not checked, but I'd be very surprised if this wasn't recorded.

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Gonna be brutally honest with you, this (and Part 1) barely has anything to do with the music of LotR. Now I know me and people in this forum are probably an unusually well-informed demographic, but I don't think someone who knows nothing about the LotR score would learn much new from this either.

Also please prepare better. Rewatch the movies. Look up names. Listen to the tracks you want to discuss before playing them. Going "here's the track where the Fellowship comes together", playing the wrong track, and then going "huh, that wasn't the right track" is just a waste of everyone's time.

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Here's something I never really thought about - the FotR CR is Shore's score as is in the EE (or a very close approximation), and the other two are how Shore's score would have been in the other 2 EEs if parts weren't dialed out and moved around as cuts changed (plus some cues that were recorded for the TE cut but changed/moved in the EE but weren't edited to match this on the CR itself). The different material the OSTs and Rarities offer are also just alternates of this same material. But surely the cuts he originally scored were wider than the EEs? Did he record new material for some EE scenes after the TEs? Did he score any deleted scenes we haven't seen and heard? Surely there were some scenes they removed kinda late and weren't put back for the EEs. I think the only such bit we have is something with Frodo and pals on the Stairs in one of the longer RotK cues that was deleted in the film but left in for the CR.

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7 hours ago, Holko said:

Did he record new material for some EE scenes after the TEs?

 

He recorded ALL the EE cues after the TC scores.

 

7 hours ago, Holko said:

Did he score any deleted scenes we haven't seen and heard?

 

I do not believe so.

 

7 hours ago, Holko said:

Surely there were some scenes they removed kinda late and weren't put back for the EEs.

 

There were absolute TRIMS made to scenes after the score cue was recorded for the theatrical cut that were not restored to their longer length in the EE.

 

But I don't think there are any ENTIRE SCENES that were scored, cut from the TC, and then not restored for the EE.

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

He recorded ALL the EE cues after the TC scores.

 

 

Not all: Some extended edition segments are the original cuts of what he recorded for the theatrical: The Farewell to Lorien sequence is that: its the theatrical recording that's the alternate.

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Yea some dude posted scans of the Live To Projection conductor's scores for all 3 films to reddit, and they've been all over the internet ever since

 

Hardly anything from the actual film cues has leaked though

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5 hours ago, Jay said:

Yea some dude posted scans of the Live To Projection conductor's scores for all 3 films to reddit, and they've been all over the internet ever since

 

Hardly anything from the actual film cues has leaked though

do those LTP sheets have cue titles/slate numbers in them?

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