bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 This morning I listened to a 2014 recording by the BBC Concert Orchestra on Spotify. I don't think it correspond to a physical album. The playing is good, but it contains a way too much echo for me, but the thing is they recorded the End Titles from The Empire Strikes Back. Well, I think it's worth of mention. Except the Gerhardt version, I don't remember any other re-recording of this piece. Please feel free to share your own discoveries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,340 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I don't think I quite understand what 'Reprises of non-concert works by other artists' means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Reprise is maybe more well suited in french. I will change it for Re-recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I don't understand what is happening here either. You want us to list for you albums that contain orchestras playing film music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 It's for the new releases or the one we've missed. Sometimes, some re-recordings are worth of mention. I think it's better than creating a thread for each release. BTW we are in the JW section. If you have a better title, please suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 So your idea for this thread is that people pop in to post some piece of film music written by JW that some other orchestra recorded, that they recently heard and liked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Jay please tell us the right path, the right way to do it. How can we communicate our passion of John Williams in YOUR forum. TELL US GREAT ORACLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 You can do whatever you want, I was just having a hard time understanding what you wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,913 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 A lot of orchestras rerecord JW's concert suites from movies. It's much rarer that actual film tracks (such as ESB's finale-->end credits as mentioned above) are performed in concert or rerecorded. That's what Bespin is looking for. Made sense to me when I read it this morning. City of Prague has done some Williams rerecordings of non-concert works. Off the top of my head, I think they recorded about 20 minutes of music from The Rare Breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Ohhhhh, so he wants actual film cues and not concert arrangements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 I've listened to this new 2016 re-recording too this morning... well.. not bad, but that's brass. :-) --> Horseplay.... Euh... what's this? I need to listen to these one tonight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 746 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Jay said: Ohhhhh, so he wants actual film cues and not concert arrangements? I'd personally be interested in both. Most notably if they're better re-recordings than any other ones available OR if they haven't be re-recorded before. 2 hours ago, Bespin said: --> Horseplay.... Euh... what's this? Seems to be "Isabel's Horse and Buggy" from Stepmom. How come I even know that??? I never listened to that score in full! bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Nightmares-Bowl-Orchestra/dp/B00000419T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 950 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 This is a great idea for a thread, actually! Good call, Bespin. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,340 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 So let me get this straight: We're talking re-recordings of film cues from Williams' scores? There must be, like, a million of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Worth mention new releases only please. 5 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Seems to be "Isabel's Horse and Buggy" from Stepmom. I've come to the same conclusion with the help of my friend Google. Never saw this piece titled "Horseplay" before! It seems to have been published under that name, is it new? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Horseplay would be the name he originally gave the cue when writing the score, while the other is the OST track title. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 772 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Bespin said: Worth mention new releases only please. I've come to the same conclusion with the help of my friend Google. Never saw this piece titled "Horseplay" before! It seems to have been published under that name, is it new? "Horseplay" is the name of the cue in the sheet music, as it was published years ago in an arrangement for strings and piano/harpsichord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,887 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Is there a reason some of the City of Prague recordings are really poor quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,913 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I think some of the earlier recordings aren't as well done, but their stuff in the last 10-ish years all sounds great IMO Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 It's rather strange that "horseplay" popups like this in a 2016 album...and under the form of an arrangement from brass! ___ In the same category of "strange" or rare track choice... A Big Beautiful Ball on this 2016 solo guitar album dedicated to John williams (our favorite America... The Dream Goes On is even here!). Not bad! https://noelakchote.bandcamp.com/album/scored-plays-john-williams It's also on spotify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 950 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I found this album a bit of a snooze. Too much futzing with the tempo and what sounded to me like undisciplined picking, but may just be a style of freeform guitar that doesn't appeal to me. But it's great to see another all-Williams cover album by a solo instrumentalist. I still wish Keisuke Wakao would get back in the studio and cover some of JW's recent work, almost all of which would sound amazing in chamber arrangements for oboe. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Hallé: A Christmas Celebration http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Hall%C3%A9/CDHLL7545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 Released on October 28th. Cd 1: 01. The Ludlows – J. HORNER 02. Feather Theme – A. SILVESTRI 03. I Had a Farm - Main Theme – J. BARRY 04. Windmills of your Mind – M. LEGRAND / A. & M. BERGMAN, E. MARNAY 05. Unchained Melody – Orchestral – M. JARRE06. Suite Harry Potter : Lily’s Theme – Harry in Winter – Courtyard Apocalypse – Prologue (Main Theme) A. DESPLAT - P. DOYLE - A. DESPLAT - J. WILLIAMS 07. Noah’s Visit - The Gravel Road - The Vote – J. N. HOWARD 08. Sotto falso nome – L. EINAUDI 09. Mon amie Max – F. DOMPIERRE 10. The Promise – M. NYMAN 11. La Valse d’Amélie – Y. TIERSEN 12. The French Lieutenant Dreams – P. GLASS 13. Rhapsodie sur un thème de Paganini(var.18) – S. RACHMANINOV14. Across the Stars – J. WILLIAMS 15. Yumeji's Theme – S. UMEBAYASHICd 2: 01. Tubular Bells – M. OLDFIELD 02. Misirlou – F. WISE, M. LEEDS, S. K. RUSSELL, N. ROUBANIS 03. He’s a Pirate – K. BADELT, G. P. ZANELLI, H. ZIMMER 04. Winterfell – Main Theme – R. DJAWADI 05. The Kiss – T. JAMES 06. À la folie – M. NYMAN 07. La Dolce Vita de La Pietà – N. ROTA 08. Smooth Criminal – M. JACKSON 09. Paradise – COLDPLAY 10. Axe F – Main Theme – H. FALTERMEYER 11. Downton Abbey – Main Theme – J. LUNN 12. If I Were a Rich Man – J. BOCK It's the sequel of this very good album who also contained some fine JW re-recordings: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Released on 2016/10/28 Screen Serenade / Jones Jurassic Park: Theme by John T. Williams Performer: Claire Jones (), Claire Jones (Harp)Period: Modern Written: 1993; United States of Ame Length: 2 Minutes 37 Secs. E. T. The Extra-Terrestrial: Theme by John T. Williams Performer: Claire Jones (Harp), Claire Jones ()Period: Modern Written: 1982; United States of Ame Length: 1 Minutes 33 Secs. http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=2188411 _____ Other things that passed under my radar... Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,152 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The DiTullio album is very good. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Another recording of Schindler's list... Anna Wandtke: Violin Soul (November 2016) https://www.amazon.com/Anna-Wandtke-Violin-Roby-Lakatos/dp/B01MDTBKPX/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1484063896&sr=1-7&keywords="john+williams" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 I totally missed this one in 2015! 2014 Midwest Clinic: Carmel High School Symphony Orchestra (Live) de Carmel High School Symphony Orchestra With Malice Toward none (with narration)https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0108XYPGI/ref=ap_ws_tlw_trk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,394 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 You're slipping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Jay said: You're slipping! Hey, that's not easy to know what's new with all these "John Williams" all around!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 A recent re-recording of Rey's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 A new recording of Schindler's List Theme (ZZZzzz)... but a new recording of Throne Room and Finale from Star Wars too!!! Music from the Motion Pictures / Griffiths, Brandenburgisches, Staatsorchester Frankfurt Release Date: 11/11/2016 http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=2225647 Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,413 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yeah, because the Star Wars end credits haven't been recorded enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 2017-01-31 at 11:04 AM, Stefancos said: Yeah, because the Star Wars end credits haven't been recorded enough... It's Star Wars... 1977.. 2017... 40 years... The Episode VIII is coming... I would appreciate a little more enthusiasm. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,413 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm a Trekkie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Not really a new thing, as it was released in 2004, but here's an arrangement of Catch Me if You Can for 12 cellos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Guess what... another recording of Schindler's List Theme.... but this time by two cellos. Two cute cellists btw... http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Sony/88985349122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Another piano album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 A new flute recording of Where Dreams are born (2016) Where Dreams Are Born (From "A.I. Artificial Intelligence") Lisa Friend & The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra https://www.amazon.com/Where-Dreams-Born-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/B01LWSPFU7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,413 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 TGP's trousers will be moist when he reads this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,361 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Bespin said: A new flute recording of Where Dreams are born (2016) Where Dreams Are Born (From "A.I. Artificial Intelligence") Lisa Friend & The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra https://www.amazon.com/Where-Dreams-Born-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/B01LWSPFU7 That's one nice album. I was listening to it earlier today while driving to work... bespinGPT and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 950 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm two tracks into the Massimo Colombo album, and I'm enjoying it, at least as background music for grading papers. He doesn't come across as a virtuoso, but he improvises pleasantly on the melodies. This is the antithesis of that Enguerrand Friedrich Luhl guy. Instead of playing it straight with mind-blowing attention to detail, Colombo creates an easy-listening fantasy approach. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 A Version of Hymn to the Fallen that fell off my radar... 2010... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,593 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Okay, so this question probably doesn't really belong in this topic, but I think it sort of does and as we were unclear on the point of the discussion in the beginning, I'm just going on a limb here. Yesterday I accidentally discovered Erich Kunzel's re-recordings of a few JW pieces (concert arrangements and film cues) and really, really liked them, reminded me a bit of Herbert von Karajan's style. Other than that, my only experience with re-recordings comes from the City of Prague Orchestra, and, well, it's not really re-recording what they do, more like trying and failing to play JW. Their string section is great, but other than that, I don't like them at all. But now I'm wondering, can anyone tell me whether there are other conductors/ensembles worth checking out that have consistently produced JW re-recordings? So preferably not random Spotify tracks, but actual albums. I know John Debny nailed Superman, but would like more. I'm also much more interested in JW's output after Jaws (Harry Potter, Star Wars prequels, Hook, Home Alone, Schindler's List, Indy, etc.) And finally, for me a re-recording doesn't count if it's blatantly obvios that an untalented someone first arranged/messed with the music. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,759 Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Okay, so this question probably doesn't really belong in this topic, but I think it sort of does and as we were unclear on the point of the discussion in the beginning, I'm just going on a limb here. Yesterday I accidentally discovered Erich Kunzel's re-recordings of a few JW pieces (concert arrangements and film cues) and really, really liked them, reminded me a bit of Herbert von Karajan's style. Other than that, my only experience with re-recordings comes from the City of Prague Orchestra, and, well, it's not really re-recording what they do, more like trying and failing to play JW. Their string section is great, but other than that, I don't like them at all. But now I'm wondering, can anyone tell me whether there are other conductors/ensembles worth checking out that have consistently produced JW re-recordings? So preferably not random Spotify tracks, but actual albums. I know John Debny nailed Superman, but would like more. I'm also much more interested in JW's output after Jaws (Harry Potter, Star Wars prequels, Hook, Home Alone, Schindler's List, Indy, etc.) And finally, for me a re-recording doesn't count if it's blatantly obvios that an untalented someone first arranged/messed with the music. Well, I would tell you to start with my website, the selective disco as a composer part. All the worth-mentionning re-recordings should be there... At least, it's a good starting point for what you are looking for. http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/music/composer/seldisco.htm Do you know the Zubin Mehta album? And BTW, I'm with you concerning the Prague orchestra... Their re-recordings is rather unequal. When you listen to their recordings you realize that JW's music is very complex... There's a lot of tempo changes by example, and if you don't change the speed at the right place you simply pass beside the goal... I'm glad you talk about Karajan... He was a genius of tempis... Conducting like a mathematician. That's my kind of conducting. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,593 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Okay, thanks. I'll have a look at your website. Glad someone shares my City of Prague disapproval, I just can't understand why anyone would like them. They've even been called a respectable ensemble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,340 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Okay, thanks. I'll have a look at your website. Glad someone shares my City of Prague disapproval, I just can't understand why anyone would like them. They've even been called a respectable ensemble. Hey, bollemanneke, the 90s called -- they want you back! In all seriousness, it's been many years since Prague was a somewhat 'clunky' film orchestra. Today, they're some of the best in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,593 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Then it's about time they released some decent JW re-recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,340 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 They've mostly done older re-recordings in later years (like the Tadlow/Fitzpatrick albums), or 'crossover' compilations. But I'd certainly give my left arm for a Prague rerecording of something like STORIA DI UNA DONNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 586 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 3:40 AM, Thor said: Hey, bollemanneke, the 90s called -- they want you back! In all seriousness, it's been many years since Prague was a somewhat 'clunky' film orchestra. Today, they're some of the best in the world. I agree. The problem with their Williams works, however, is that so many of them were recorded early on, and so every time they put out a new compilation it still contains the older recordings, many of which admittedly aren't very good. It would be great it they could re-record their Williams back catalogue for future compilations, but of course I know it's easy to say that when I'm not paying for the sessions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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