mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Alexandre Desplat has been replaced on Rogue One by Michael Giacchino Cerebral Cortex and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 WWWWWHHHHHHHOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAA! Â Â Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 HOLY ... STORMTROOPERS!!!!!! Â Â Â Totally out of the blue!!! Is this a prank?! Â JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 One of the craziest bits of news we've had in awhile (I guess since Bridge of Spies). I thought it was a joke post when I saw it on another forum. Â Damn I feel bad for Desplat right now, he seemed excited about this....hope he wasn't fired and that it was more of a scheduling thing (ETA reread and looks like the latter was the case, at least "officially"). And now Gia's got 3 months to write and record his Star Wars score...guess we'll see what he's made of. Â Starting to wonder if the movie could get delayed. Will and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rogue-one-replaces-929387  Starting a new thread for this news to make sure it gets the visibility it deserves. Jay can of course merge this with the existing score thread, or delete it altogether if he so chooses.  EDIT: Oh no, I think this thread is destined to be locked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted September 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2016 My interest in this project has plummeted. Has Gia even heard of Pascal Dusapin? Code 000. Destruct. 0., A. A. Ron, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 ........WOW! And we all joked about Williams replacing him a few months back! Â That's massive news. Does anyone else buy the scheduling conflict excuse? Â Seems like the surest sign yet about who is being groomed to take over the series one day. Will and TheUlyssesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 And mine has ratcheted up considerably. (EDIT: That's in response to Sharkus's post.)  -------  Maybe Giacchino will have an opportunity to expand on the five-year mission theme?  I know it's a war film, but there must be a few more romantic/graceful moments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,151 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 My expectations are about the same. I have never heard a Desplat score I have REALLY loved, and Giacchino scores are kind of hard to get into for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,757 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Fuck. Â Bofur01 and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 What a crazy bombshell of an announcement. Flabbergasted! Â Well hey, I'm not gonna complain about getting three big sci-fi scores from Gia in the space of 6 months! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,590 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, crumbs said: ........WOW! And we all joked about Williams replacing him a few months back!  That's massive news. Does anyone else buy the scheduling conflict excuse?  Seems like the surest sign yet about who is being groomed to take over the series one day.  I definitely thinks this is the case. Gia is kinda being given the keys to the kingdom. This is his try out so to say. If he doesn't fuck it up, once the maestro retires, it will be Gia scoring the real Star Wars films.  I can't believe his clout in a way. The Jurassic World franchise - over 1.5 billion. Pixar in his pocket pretty much. Now Star Wars. A movie in MCU (who's to say he might not replace Silvestri for Avengers). And a massive Disney animation movie with Zootopia. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I wouldn't be upset to see another composer take over Jurassic World; his score was nothing special or particularly memorable, and you could tell he was exhausted writing it (off the back of Tomorrowland and Inside Out without a break). Â Will it be the same situation here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:  I definitely thinks this is the case. Gia is kinda being given the keys to the kingdom. This is his try out so to say. If he doesn't fuck it up, once the maestro retires, it will be Gia scoring the real Star Wars films.  I hope so! His Trek works, among others, have convinced me that he's the right man for the job. 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: I wouldn't be upset to see another composer take over Jurassic World; his score was nothing special or particularly memorable, and you could tell he was exhausted writing it (off the back of Tomorrowland and Inside Out without a break).  Will it be the same situation here?  Well, A) Jurassic World actually did have some really great sections, although there were certainly also some that weren't so great and B) In any case I'd like to think that since this is Star Wars Gia will make it his priority and treat it with reverence and really go for it with everything he's got -- after all, he's following in the footsteps of some of the greatest -- and likely most popular -- scores of all time! (of course, the downside to following in the footsteps of those scores is that Gia may just string together a bunch of JW themes -- although I suppose that could actually be good if Giacchino does that well).  And it's a chance to lock in some nice future jobs, so there's some added incentive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,757 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 I was getting really excited at the thought of something new for the Star Wars universe. Â Now it'll just be John Williams, but less good. Â Bofur01, JacksonElmore, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Will said:  Well, A) Jurassic World actually did have some really great sections, although there were certainly also some that weren't so great and B) In any case I'd like to think that since this is Star Wars Gia will make it his priority and treat it with reverence -- after all, he's following in the footsteps of some of the greatest -- and likely most popular -- scores of all time!  I thought exactly the same way before Jurassic World and was pretty disappointed in the results, even thinking that film was probably his audition for Star Wars. It ended up having some great sections but was filled with long patches of uninteresting filler (not that the film itself was particularly inspired).  Unless he's been working on this score for a month already, we're looking at a 2 month writing/recording schedule for Rogue One now.  On a side note, I wonder if this means Conrad Pope will have any involvement? Wasn't he working with Desplat on his score? Someone should ask him on Facebook.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, crumbs said:  I thought exactly the same way before Jurassic World and was pretty disappointed in the results, even thinking that film was probably his audition for Star Wars. It ended up having some great sections but was filled with long patches of uninteresting filler (not that the film itself was particularly inspired).  Well, let's think positively!  Jurassic Park was a popular franchise but Star Wars is on a whole 'nother level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 What an absolute bombshell! I'm a huge MG fan so naturally extremely excited about this but also a little disappointed we won't hear a Desplat Star Wars score. Â This is a major career milestone for MG, I truly hope he knocks it out of the park. leeallen01 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I was getting really excited at the thought of something new for the Star Wars universe. Â Now it'll just be John Williams, but less good. Â Â That's kinda how I feel about it too. I mean, I really like Gia and I'm sure he'll turn in a solid and fairly entertaining score, but I feel like I've already heard it, whereas with Desplat I was really not sure what he'd do. Â But I guess with any luck the time crunch and insane pressure will be beneficial and he'll turn out something wholly inspired. Maybe it'll be his best yet, who knows. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 603 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 What?! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Jilal said: What?!  Exactly.  You're waiting for me to say "September Fools," aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016  Being a score fan certainly has its drama Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 603 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is so sad. I was expecting engaging, colorful action cues in the veins of the brilliant Harry Potter ones. Bofur01 and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Entertainment Weekly had reported back when there was all that reshoots discussion that Desplat's score was to be recorded in September.  So unless Giacchino has already finished composing and they're recording now, they have pushed back the schedule. 18 minutes ago, crumbs said:  On a side note, I wonder if this means Conrad Pope will have any involvement? Wasn't he working with Desplat on his score?  I don't think that was ever confirmed but it was thought to be probable. 8 minutes ago, dfenton85 said:  Being a score fan certainly has its drama  Indeed!  TGP is not gonna be happy... 52 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:  Damn I feel bad for Desplat right now, he seemed excited about this....hope he wasn't fired and that it was more of a scheduling thing because of the reshoots (ETA reread and looks like the latter was the case, at least "officially").  Yes. I hope that too. Being replaced on a SW score for whatever reason is pretty awful.  @mrbellamy: "Starting to wonder if the movie could get delayed."  Starting to wonder? Haven't we been wondering that for months?   Yes, it's certainly possible. So much behind the scenes drama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 714 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,350 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is awful news Matt C, Bofur01, Not Mr. Big and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 I was talking about this with some colleagues today. At the risk of appearing overdramatic, I have to say that this is possibly the most disappointing thing to happen in film scoring in recent memory and probably beyond. Giacchino is by leagues the lesser composer, first of all. Regardless of the things he does here and there that I do in fact like, speaking as objectively as possible from a pure musical perspective, it's just not even close. The real disappointment, however, even more than the loss of what would have been (is) a compelling work, is the implication it has for future scores, the why of it. Whatever "cover story" is given as explanation is best ignored. This film obviously was going somewhere that the bean counters were uncomfortable with, which probably means somewhere good, and it got retooled to be safer. Now the same thing is happening with the music. This is far more insidious a thing, and more damaging to the landscape of the industry, than the overabundance of the RCP blockbuster sound as a result of studios pressuring the following of certain models. Now even those last few films that may have been used as a canvas for inventive, fresh "traditional" scoring are being handed over to the safer choice. Will Giacchino now be as ubiquitous as Zimmer once was, and his imitators somewhat still are? Will there be an appropriate amount of whining about that, or will everyone eat up the new standard with gusto, a slop of symphonic mannerisms produced by assembly line for the nostalgia-addict masses? Desplat is one of the very, very few in this musical world who could be called a truly great composer. Giacchino is not. And yet the latter is being handed every major franchise. The former is constantly held at arms length by an industry that apparently wants only to either produce grating Zimmer imitation scores, or to comfort 80s kids - and never have I been more annoyed to be a part of that generation. Well fuck that, Disney. I don't want your movie, I want Edwards' movie, and I don't want Giacchino's score, I want Desplat's score. And so do plenty of others, whether or not they realize it. Loert, Matt C, publicist and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Jilal said: This is so sad. I was expecting engaging, colorful action cues in the veins of the brilliant Harry Potter ones.  To be honest I haven't heard any of those. I'm sure I'd grow to like Desplat more if I grew more familiar with his works. Right now I most associate him with dramatic string-heavy scores, plus fun jazz, which aren't very Star Wars-y, but I've heard there's much more to him...  So I can't really say that I don't like Desplat and that's why I'm happy he's been replaced. It's more that I really like a lot of Gia's work.  Certainly, based on my current knowledge of the two composers' oeuvres, I'm inclined to be much more enthusiastic about a Giacchino SW score. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,350 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 It's a bland, boring and safe replacement Once, A. A. Ron, crumbs and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 A Star Trek score, a Marvel score and a Star Wars score all in one year. That is pretty insane for any composer. Will and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,282 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think the SW fanbase will prefer Giacchino to Desplat. I'm not saying whether that's justified or not; I just think they will.  Giacchino's widely viewed as the next JW, of course (or at least "JW in SW mode"). He writes lots of blockbuster action/adventure scores. Desplat ... not so much. Pieter Boelen and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I suppose we could have received worse news today. A. A. Ron and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,780 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I don't necessarily think it is bad news but I do feel conflicted. I'm a fan of both composers. Desplat is probably more consistent but Gia has higher peaks.  I feel sorry for Desplat and his score certainly would have been great. But if Gia gives us a SW score with the same epic feel as John Carter or Jupiter while using some of JW themes, the result could be extraordinary. Will and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Pieter Boelen and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ollie 1,220 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 If any news could get me to post here, it was this.   I'm sad and disappointed because I wanted to hear a Desplat scored Star Wars film.  I'm excited and happy because I love Michael Giacchino's music and cannot wait to hear this.  I'm LMAO at the meltdown this will cause here and at FSM.   17 minutes ago, WojinPA said: I suppose we could have received worse news today.   Yes The 10 Commandments could be delayed again. Pieter Boelen, Gnome in Plaid, Koray Savas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Conrad Pope says:  Quote No NDA violation here. The Schrödinger's cat's out of this bag. Wish they'd decided earlier. Said no to a pretty cool job because of this film. Oh well, as the French say: C'est la guerre! Next...  https://www.facebook.com/conrad.pope/posts/10209681652111031  and  Nothing was recorded-sadly. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,529 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think it was a good call. Desplat doesn't seem to be very good with action music, which is what Star Wars mostly consists of. Very happy with this news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I share the sentiments of a few here, I was looking forward to hearing Desplat's take, but I'm glad they found Giacchino as a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 55 minutes ago, TheWhiteRider said: The real disappointment, however, even more than the loss of what would have been (is) a compelling work  Cerebral Cortex and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 As soon as I discovered this news I rushed here knowing that the place would be flooded with tears... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Alexandre Desplat has been replaced on Rogue One by Michael Giacchino  Holy cow! A Giacchino Star Wars and a Star Trek film in the same year?  1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: But I guess with any luck the time crunch and insane pressure will be beneficial and he'll turn out something wholly inspired. Maybe it'll be his best yet, who knows. That's what I'm hoping for. Giacchino is more than abundantly aware of the immense task that has been handed to him, and that should, at the very least, yield a score from him where he has given it his all. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Â Â Should be fair to assume that whatever was floating around in Alex's head as preliminary ideas is compelling, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 I just thought maybe you knew something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well I'll tell you who doesn't know anything: Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,944 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 Code 000. Destruct. 0., rpvee and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,889 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 Quintus, Cerebral Cortex, Code 000. Destruct. 0. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 484 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Sorely disappointed by this. There's definitely something else going on. Desplat has worked under a tight schedule with reshoots before (he recorded The Danish Girl a week before the premiere), so that sounds out-of-character. Â And I doubt the release date is being pushed back. Disney and Lucasfilm will spend more to get the film done by December 16, but the reshoots and Desplat being given the boot have me wary of the final product. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Holy shit. This is awesome, but also...I was excited to hear what desplat was going to do. I couldn't even imagine what a star wars score would sound like from him. Oh well, Giacchino is incredible. I don't even know what to expect. I'm excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 By the way, I've been going by the name Mike on here for years, but that's actually my middle name - an excessive attempt at anonymity from my early days, and I just let it slide. My first name, I shit you not, is Alex, and in light of these events I'd prefer to now be known by that. Will, Bofur01, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 273 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Apparently Desplat hadn't even spotted the film yet! Â That's not a solid source, of course, but I have no reason to think someone would be lying on FSM of all places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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