leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Just call him the next John Williams. And Desplat; the almost next John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Michael Jacket? Love it! Michael LittleJacket, by my reckoning. Any Italians here, feel free to correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 That was his birth name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 12 hours ago, toothless said: It is indeed DESS-PLA And that's how he pronounces it himself. 3 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: The propper italian pronunciaion for those letters is more similar to the second one, or a mix... Jia-Keen-O i think sounds more like it "Juh-Keen-O" seems right (the "i" should be silent, like in "Giovanni" - "Jo-WUNN-ee"). But doesn't he himself (not actually being Italian) say "Jia-"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 But is he correct? What does the Académie française say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Vite! Au Laboratoire des Prononciations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I just pronounce it the way it's written. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: And that's how he pronounces it himself. "Juh-Keen-O" seems right (the "i" should be silent, like in "Giovanni" - "Jo-WUNN-ee"). But doesn't he himself (not actually being Italian) say "Jia-"? I think it was said a few posts earlier that he says Juh- instead of Gia- I can't picture Juh- sounding the same as i say 'Gia'. Can you give me an example of an english word with a 'juh-' sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 It looks like William Ross will orchestrate - maybe he will even do some heavy lifting? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 If that is true, then it is good news. We can get a pseudo-Williams sound with him. It's that I wanted with Jurassic World, the involvement of one of WIlliams orchestrators. Pope would have been great too. Where did you heard that anyway? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Does Giacchino never orchestrate his work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 William Ross is listed on the movie's IMDB credits as one of the orchestrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: William Ross is listed on the movie's IMDB credits as one of the orchestrators. Can't anybody have added that to IMDB? It's about as reliable a source as Wikipedia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Sure, just pointing it out as promising. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I wonder if Giacchino will have consulted with JW on this score. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing "Score Consultant: John Williams" in the end credits, and it might provide a bit of scoring consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2016 I bet Giacchino is working extra hours on the 'burn' track titles. 1) Des-plotting to Overthrow. 2) A Rejected Des-plot. Will, crumbs, Incanus and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 He he he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I bet Giacchino is working extra hours on the 'burn' track titles. 1) Des-plotting to Overthrow. 2) A Rejected Des-plot. His work shows that he's not that smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 35 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: His work shows that he's not that smart. IIRC it's Gia's music editor who pun-ishes his soundtrack album track titles. Bilbo and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Incanus said: IIRC it's Gia's music editor who pun-ishes his soundtrack album track titles. Does he name the cues too? Because most OST names are derived from the cue names, and these are all listed on ASCAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Quintus said: Does Giacchino never orchestrate his work? Only a few cues here and there. His regular orchestrators these days are Tim Simonec, Peter Boyer, Jeff Kryka, and some others 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: I bet Giacchino is working extra hours on the 'burn' track titles. Giacchino doesn't come up with the cue titles, his music editor and other members of his team do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jay said: Giacchino doesn't come up with the cue titles, his music editor and other members of his team do. Giacchino does it as well. I've heard him personally say that he and his music team compete for the best puns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Right but when he is going into Rogue one directly from Doctor Strange, which he went into directly from Star Trek Beyond, which he went into directly from Zootopia.... I'm sure he's too busy writing lots of music right now to spend time thinking about cue titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessoundtrack 23 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 18 hours ago, Miz said: Michael LittleJacket, by my reckoning. Any Italians here, feel free to correct me. Yes, that's right Miz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jay said: Right but when he is going into Rogue one directly from Doctor Strange, which he went into directly from Star Trek Beyond, which he went into directly from Zootopia.... I'm sure he's too busy writing lots of music right now to spend time thinking about cue titles. Yeah I doubt he does it these days much, if at all. Though it'll be a nice de-stressing and a fun mental break from the crushing pressure of a 5 week Star Wars Score. I don't think any of the score will be puns actually. He dialled it back on Dr Strange, so likely he will dial it back even more for Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 If Ross is orchestrating that's fantastic news, given his closeness to Williams. I'm certain Gia consulted Williams over lunch, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, crumbs said: I'm certain Gia consulted Williams over lunch, at least. Why would you assume that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Like rolling bits of bread and seeing how far he can throw them! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Every time Gia tries to talk Star Wars Williams just acts like a 4 year old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Williams: "You're going to need a better Composer than me for Rogue One." Disney: "We know, John, but they're all dead." WIlliams: "No, there is another." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Desplat? leeallen01 and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 5 hours ago, Quintus said: Does Giacchino never orchestrate his work? Nor does almost every other composer in hollywood, with the exception of the great ones. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Desplat? If only the producers had listened to John's personal and enthusiastic recommendation of Junkie XL. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 8 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: I can't picture Juh- sounding the same as i say 'Gia'. Can you give me an example of an english word with a 'juh-' sound? "Just", more or less. 2 hours ago, crumbs said: I'm certain Gia consulted Williams over lunch, at least. You don't just call John Williams. "Hey, John! What the fuck?" - Alexandre Desplat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 On the upside, it will be a walk in the park to find out what most of the cues are called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 15 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: "Just", more or less. Yeah that maybe right . Maybe the 'J' sound should be a little more sustained (because of "G+i") and less blunt. But it is close. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoman17 14 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 My English is bad... But I often try to read (and understand) your comments and thoughts on Giacchino's scores. It seems that no one enjoys his work here. Why so? I think he is a pretty talanted composer. Much more talented than Zimmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Many here like Giacchino. Many don't. Maybe you've seen more negative than positive posts recently, but if you read threads dedicated to his scores you'll see lots of excellent discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoman17 14 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 That's why I like to read these threads... Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, lostoman17 said: Why so? I think he is a pretty talanted composer. Much more talented than Zimmer... Zimmer is a far more talented and distinctive composer. One who has produced some stunning scores, and has influenced film music as a genre. Gia doesn't even come close. And I'm not even a Zimmer fan! Not Mr. Big, Brónach, BLUMENKOHL and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I've said before that Zimmer's highlights are far superior to Giacchino's, but Giacchino is far more consistent with his output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Often the most vocal commentators are the most scathing. If you're looking for support for Giacchino here I think you've come to the wrong place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoman17 14 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Everyone has his/her own truth. For me Giacchino's scores are inspirational. I should admit though, that sometimes he sounds rather generic. But this fact is not bad at all. That means Giacchino has a good old fashioned musical taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 He's starting to sound generic and repetitive because he's doing way too many scores in a row without taking a break. Jurassic World was just so disappointing when he can clearly write more inspired material (he clearly didn't have the time to flesh out the score, or was exhausted after Jupiter Ascending, Inside Out and Tomorrowland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted November 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2016 The giacchino badmouthers are pretty vocal in this place. And spread their enloghted views to every single thread where he is mentioned. I, for example have stopped defending him at every opportunity, because i'm tired of the harassment for doing it. It's not worth it. It's you who have to enjoy the music, there is no need of anyone telling you how to. leeallen01, Pieter Boelen and lostoman17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Haters are always more vocal than lovers. For example, people read bad reviews for movies more than good reviews, and the most popular movie related youtube channels are ones that negatively talk about people and films. E.g. Red Letter Media, Honest Trailers, Cinemasins etc. No one really watches youtube film reviews of people praising a film. Negativity is unfortunately more popular than positivity. Basically every single story on the news is negative. The world is full of it. So clearly those on here who dislike a composer, simply wont shut up about it because they think that more people will read their opinion than if they were praising someone. JacksonElmore and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Bullshit! For years the Gia fans have had it their way. Praising their idol with relentless and criticless regularly! No more! NO MORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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